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| Arberg |
Posted on 15-07-2024 17:34
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Mountain
85: Pogacar
84: Vingegaard
82: Evenepoel, Roglic
81: A.Yates, Kuss, Hindley
80: Gall, Almeida, Ayuso, Landa, Martinez, Vlasov, Thomas, Rodriguez
79: S.Yates, O’Connor, Carapaz, Jorgenson, Bernal, Geoghegan Hart
Edited by Arberg on 15-07-2024 18:24
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| Arberg |
Posted on 15-07-2024 18:12
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Hill
83: Pogacar
82: Roglic, Evenepoel
81: Vingegaard
80: Skjelmose
79: Van Aert, Van Der Poel
Edited by Arberg on 15-07-2024 18:30
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| Arberg |
Posted on 15-07-2024 18:14
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MM
83: Pogacar
82: Roglic, Evenepoel
81: Vingegaard |
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| Arberg |
Posted on 15-07-2024 18:17
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TT:
83: Evenepoel
82: Ganna
81: Pogacar, Van Aert
80: Vingegaard, Roglic |
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| Arberg |
Posted on 15-07-2024 18:20
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COB
83: Van Der Poel
82: Van Aert
81: Pogacar
80: Mads P |
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| Arberg |
Posted on 16-07-2024 08:10
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Pogacar
Flt 76
MO 85
MM 83
Hill 83
TT 81
Pro 80
Cob 81
Spr 70
Acc 78
AG A
Sta 81
Res 81
Rec A+
Vingegaard
Flt 73
MO 84
MM 81
Hill 81
TT 80
Pro 79
Cob 67
Spr 65
Acc 73
AG B
Sta 81
Res 80
Rec A+
Evenepoel
Flt 81
MO 82
MM 82
Hill 82
TT 83
Pro 81
Cob 68
Spr 63
Acc 71
AG C
Sta 80
Res 79
Rec A
Roglic
Flt 73
MO 82
MM 82
Hill 82
TT 80
Pro 79
Cob 65
Spr 68
Acc 77
DH C
Sta 79
Res 79
Rec A+ |
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| Caspi |
Posted on 16-07-2024 11:01
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You've hit Roglic spot on, but you're overestimating Pogacar IMO and maybe underestimating Vingegaard and Evenepool a little.
| Pogacar | Vingegaard | Evenepoel | Roglic | | FL | 76 | 73 | 81 | 73 | | MO | 84 | 85 | 82 | 82 | | MM | 83 | 81 | 82 | 82 | | HI | 83 | 81 | 82 | 82 | | TT | 81 | 80 | 84 | 80 | | PR | 80 | 79 | 81 | 79 | | COB | 79 | 67 | 70 | 65 | | SPR | 70 | 65 | 64 | 68 | | ACC | 78 | 73 | 71 | 77 | | DH | 80 | 79 | 69 | 72 | | STA | 81 | 81 | 80 | 79 | | RES | 81 | 80 | 79 | 79 | | REC | 82 | 84 | 79 | 82 |
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| Casey |
Posted on 18-07-2024 06:27
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In my opinion, we cannot say that Pogacar is climbing better than Vingegaard due to the injury and forget that last year Pogacar came to the Tour after an injury. Also, I think Tadej has improved his climbing level.
Regarding Remco, the difference with Pogacar in the Pyrenees cannot be only 2 points.
Tadej Pogacar 
FL 77
MO 84
MM 83
HILL 83
TT 81
PR 80
COB 79
SP 71
ACC 82
DH 79
STA 83
RES 83
REC 81
Jonas Vingegaard 
FL 73
MO 84
MM 82
HILL 81
TT 80
PR 79
COB 68
SP 65
ACC 74
DH 77
STA 83
RES 82
REC 82
Remco Evenepoel 
FL 83
MO 81
MM 82
HILL 82
TT 84
PR 82
COB 70
SP 67
ACC 71
DH 69
STA 82
RES 79
REC 79
Primoz Roglic
FL 74
MO 81
MM 82
HILL 81
TT 79
PR 79
COB 67
SP 68
ACC 75
DH 75
STA 79
RES 79
REC 80
The next level of climbers should be 80, but with several points less than sta and res to reflect the significant gap with Remco and Primoz. Or put Vingegaard and Pogacar at 85, Roglic and Evenepoel at 82 and Ayuso, Landa, Almeida, Adam Yates and RodrÃguez at 80. But I think it would be better to make that gap by playing with the sta and the res.
Pd: Sepp Kuss 81 in mountain
Edited by Casey on 18-07-2024 06:41
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| Arberg |
Posted on 19-07-2024 13:45
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https://lanterner...-stage-15/
Pogacar is the greatest ever |
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 28-07-2024 23:54
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It's always good to see members post stats BUT there are some crazy high stats here. I don't ever remember 84 and 85 ever being used in this DB and have never noticed it in other DB's either so unless somebody posts some screenshots of how it looks in a GT it needs to be used with caution. In all testing Pogacar was the best at that was at 81 mtn and we have increased him even more now to try and get him to win by bigger margins but the problem I'd say is not with stats but with the game AI.
The game AI very rarely has a rider like Pogacar attacking from a super long distance like he does in real life, which means he is not going to win by the margins as in real life and he'll just attack much later in the stage or race.
We had all types of problem with Remco at just 78 mtn where he was better than Vingegaard who had 83 because of his huge physical stats and we can't raise Vingegaard in physical stats until he starts to perform in classics.
The way the stats are structured now with the new update is that the big four should be like this in order: Pogacar, Vingegaard, Remco and Roglic but much also depends of what level of race day condition is used, whether random form is chosen and testing has shown the team selection is important as well. For example take Van Aert out of the startlist for Visma and Vingegaard performs worse etc
Also a lot of caution needs to be given when giving out high STA and RES stats because these are what turns riders into beasts rather than their main stats which is why even with 76-78 mtn Remco is a monster rider and even higher than this I dread to think how good he would be. Also any rider with very high STA/RES is going to be very good in classics as well. Vingegaard yet to show anything but I know he's riding Lombardia this year and Roglic is a moderate performer in classics. It's only Pogcar and Remco that are also starts in the classics as well.
Edited by Tafiolmo on 29-07-2024 00:02
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| 0buKKaKe |
Posted on 06-08-2024 19:46
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Arberg wrote:
Pogacar
Flt 76
MO 85
MM 83
Hill 83
TT 81
Pro 80
Cob 81
Spr 70
Acc 78
AG A
Sta 81
Res 81
Rec A+
Vingegaard
Flt 73
MO 84
MM 81
Hill 81
TT 80
Pro 79
Cob 67
Spr 65
Acc 73
AG B
Sta 81
Res 80
Rec A+
Evenepoel
Flt 81
MO 82
MM 82
Hill 82
TT 83
Pro 81
Cob 68
Spr 63
Acc 71
AG C
Sta 80
Res 79
Rec A
Roglic
Flt 73
MO 82
MM 82
Hill 82
TT 80
Pro 79
Cob 65
Spr 68
Acc 77
DH C
Sta 79
Res 79
Rec A+
These I would consider almost spot on!!! Would disagree here and there on some tweaks to sta res rec, as we are speaking of up to date stats. So it was obvious last week of TdF Anchovy could not resist nor recover as well as before the injury. So yeah, maybe he or remco ar the best clibers of them all but not up to date.
Btw remco pathetic tt win on olympics with his legal TUEs.
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| 0buKKaKe |
Posted on 06-08-2024 20:14
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I don't ever remember 84 and 85 ever being used in this DB and have never noticed it in other DB's either so unless somebody posts some screenshots of how it looks in a GT
Im sorry guys, i am aware it is not relevant, but cant help myself  I remember back in the old days of to this date best PCM 2006, in original db of Cyanide (not resembling Opreation Puerte irl) there were Armstrong MO 85, Ulrich MO 84, Basso MO 83.
But jokes aside guys, it is nice to be drawing numbers here, like @Tafiolmo poins, but it is not only having these stats on paper, you also must consider game engine and its mechanics, which is each new release more or less changed and make it work as a whole unit to be as close as irl... not as we fantasies here... daaamn those remco as***kers are off the hook here
No offense to anyone, i kinda like that little bas***d too  . Anyways guys s have great day. |
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