Updated DB and Training List 2022
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roturn |
Posted on 01-09-2022 08:02
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Season DB: https://pcmdaily....sonDB.xlsm
Please check if all your transfer changes and trainings are correct in the file.
The heights/weights table is up to date according to the spoiler list. Later posts will still be added to the file, but are not yet here in the Season DB.
And as usual, the training list with all the nice little improvements:
Spoiler Amaysim Cervélo | McCarthy | Jay | Hill | 81 | 82 | € 1.700.000 | Binance | Rodrigues | Joao | Mountain | 78 | 79 | € 1.000.000 | Binance | Rodrigues | Joao | Mountain | 79 | 80 | € 1.200.000 | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | Kragh Andersen | Asbjorn | Mountain | 53 | 54 | € 100.000 | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | Aranburu | Alex | Hill | 77 | 78 | € 850.000 | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | Aranburu | Alex | Hill | 78 | 79 | € 1.000.000 | cycleYorkshire | Cullaigh | Gabriel | Flat | 73 | 74 | € 700.000 | De Stijl Cycling | Kemboi | Salem | Mountain | 61 | 62 | € 100.000 | De Stijl Cycling | Kemboi | Salem | Hill | 63 | 64 | € 100.000 | De Stijl Cycling | Salzmann | Jodok | Mountain | 62 | 63 | € 100.000 | De Stijl Cycling | Tiller | Rasmus | Mountain | 63 | 65 | € 300.000 | EA Vesuvio | Wirtgen | Tom | Sprint | 62 | 63 | € 100.000 | EA Vesuvio | Wirtgen | Tom | TT | 80 | 81 | € 1.400.000 | ELCO - ABEA | Kortsidakis | Michail | Cobble | 74 | 75 | € 500.000 | ELCO - ABEA | Spanopoulos | Ioannis | Hills | 74 | 75 | € 500.000 | ELCO - ABEA | Ioannidis | Nikolaos | Timetrial | 75 | 76 | € 600.000 | ELCO - ABEA | Kortsidakis | Michail | Cobble | 75 | 76 | € 600.000 | ELCO - ABEA | Ioannidis | Nikolaos | Timetrial | 76 | 77 | € 700.000 | ELCO - ABEA | Spanopoulos | Ioannis | Mountain | 76 | 77 | € 700.000 | ELCO - ABEA | Mavrikakis | Michail | Mountain | 77 | 78 | € 850.000 | ELCO - ABEA | Mavrikakis | Michail | Mountain | 78 | 79 | € 1.000.000 | Evonik - ELKO | Lecuisinier | Pierre-Henri | TT | 77 | 78 | € 1.400.000 | Gazelle | Teunissen | Mike | TT | 64 | 65 | € 100.000 | Glanbia | McKenna | Rth | TT | 63 | 64 | € 100.000 | Glanbia | Oram | James | Mountain | 57 | 58 | € 100.000 | Grieg-Maersk | Pedersen | Mads | Cobbles | 81 | 82 | € 1.700.000 | Grieg-Maersk | Würtz | Mads | Time Trial | 82 | 83 | € 2.000.000 | Huski Chocolate | Gerts | Floris | Cobbles | 81 | 82 | € 1.700.000 | Indosat Ooredoo | Arif Prayogo | Dealton Nur | Mountain | 62 | 63 | € 100.000 | Indosat Ooredoo | Dunbar | Eddie | Time Trial | 77 | 79 | € 1.850.000 | ISA - Hexacta | Ewan | Caleb | Mountain | 62 | 63 | € 100.000 | ISA - Hexacta | Sanogo | Abou | Mountain | 61 | 62 | € 100.000 | Isostar - Specialized | Hart | Tao Geoghegan | Mountain | 78 | 79 | € 1.000.000 | Isostar - Specialized | Per | David | Cobbles | 79 | 80 | € 1.200.000 | Isostar - Specialized | Per | David | Cobbles | 80 | 81 | € 1.400.000 | Jura GIANTS | Stüssi | Colin | Mountain | 77 | 78 | € 850.000 | Jura GIANTS | Stüssi | Colin | Mountain | 78 | 79 | € 1.000.000 | King Power | Kasperkiewicz | Przemyslaw | Acceleration | 66 | 67 | € 150.000 | King Power | Gidich | Yevgeniy | Hill | 80 | 81 | € 1.400.000 | King Power | Gidich | Yevgeniy | Hill | 81 | 82 | € 1.700.000 | Kraftwerk Man Machine | Ranaweera | Suranga | Flat | 66 | 67 | € 150.000 | Kraftwerk Man Machine | Ranaweera | Suranga | TT | 74 | 75 | € 700.000 | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | De Plus | Laurens | Sprint | 60 | 61 | € 100.000 | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | Novak | Domen | Sprint | 64 | 65 | € 100.000 | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | Oomen | Sam | Sprint | 64 | 65 | € 100.000 | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | Novak | Domen | Mountain | 79 | 80 | € 1.200.000 | Los Pollos Hermanos | Zepuntke | Ruben | Mountain | 55 | 56 | € 100.000 | Pas Normal Studios - Mikkeller | Prasad | Darshana | Cobble | 66 | 67 | € 150.000 | Pas Normal Studios - Mikkeller | Prasad | Darshana | Sprint | 77 | 78 | € 850.000 | Philips - Force India | Benoot | Tiesj | TT | 62 | 63 | € 100.000 | Philips - Force India | Benoot | Tiesj | HIL | 79 | 80 | € 1.200.000 | Podium Ambition | Le Court | Kim | FL | 69 | 70 | € 400.000 | Podium Ambition | Le Court | Kim | MO | 69 | 70 | € 400.000 | Podium Ambition | Vanderpool | Kristian | TT | 75 | 76 | € 600.000 | Podium Ambition | Vanderpool | Kristian | TT | 76 | 77 | € 700.000 | Polar | Latour | Pierre | Mountain | 80 | 81 | € 1.400.000 | Polar | Mullen | Ryan | TT | 80 | 81 | € 1.400.000 | Project: Africa | van Niekerk | Aidan | Mountain | 74 | 75 | € 600.000 | Red Bull Zalgiris | Halvorsen | Kristoffer | Sprint | 80 | 81 | € 1.400.000 | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | Padun | Mark | TT | 65 | 66 | € 125.000 | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | Padun | Mark | Mountain | 81 | 82 | € 1.700.000 | Team UBS | Müller | Patrick | ACC | 72 | 73 | € 500.000 | Team UBS | Spengler | Lukas | STA | 72 | 73 | € 700.000 | Team UBS | Spengler | Lukas | STA | 73 | 74 | € 700.000 | Tryg - Gobik | Frison | Frederik | Mountain | 56 | 57 | € 100.000 | Tryg - Gobik | Schlegel | Michal | Mountain | 76 | 77 | € 750.000 | Tryg - Gobik | Schlegel | Michal | Mountain | 77 | 78 | € 850.000 | Voyagin - Bird | Shikai | Chen | Acceleration | 66 | 67 | € 150.000 | Xero Racing | Areruya | Joseph | Hill | 79 | 80 | € 1.200.000 | Xero Racing | Areruya | Joseph | Hill | 80 | 81 | € 1.400.000 | Zwift Pro Cycling | Powless | Neilson | Sprint | 64 | 65 | € 100.000 |
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SotD |
Posted on 01-09-2022 08:24
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That ACC of Müller seems cheap. I want those prices too
A couple of surprising trainings, but mostly a bit surprised not to see even more heavy training. Except for Halvorsen nothing interesting sprint wise I guess is good news for Coquard and Farantakis.
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redordead |
Posted on 01-09-2022 08:44
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Every year this list comes out it makes me think how much harder the upcoming season will be and how much longer I have to wait to be on this list
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alexkr00 |
Posted on 01-09-2022 09:04
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Pedersen not 83 in cobbles is good, but Per on 81 looks quite scary.
Very few sprinters 81 and above in the PT. I should have sold Grosu and make Van Poppel my main sprinter
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Posted on 04-12-2024 09:10
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Fabianski |
Posted on 01-09-2022 09:05
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There's a mistake in the DB; 3 riders (Itami, Gilanipoor, Gonzales) have a team but no division. Their team name (Colombini-Adler Aalterpaint) differs from the one of their teammates (Colombini-Adler AP), guess that was the issue.
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SotD |
Posted on 01-09-2022 09:51
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Some interesting "shifts" at the top level:
Last season there was 10 81+ HI riders in the PT. This season it's 15.
Last season there was 22 81+ MO riders in the PT. This season it's 17.
Last season there was 8 80+ TT riders in the PT. This season it's 14.
Last season there was 11 80+ COB riders in the PT. This season it's 14.
Last season there was 15 81+ SPR riders in the PT. This season it's 13.
So we see a massive increase in the competition on hills and timetrials and a minor one i cobbles, while the competition in mountains and sprints seems to be coming down.
With 2 more teams than last season the numerics seem to match OK with the COB, but the high end puncheur heavy riders is a relatively large increase of 50%.
That being said, all terrains seems to be very evenly matched so there's not a lot of shortcuts for succes with the spread being from 13-17. This is obviously a bit skewed as key stat isn't telling the full story though.
One tendency though is that very few PT teams dare to trust the sprinters competition. 7 Pro Tour team doesn't have a dedicated 80+ sprinter, and another 2 teams have what I would refer to as "lucky punch sprinters" such as Swift, Appollonio, van Stayen. It will be very interesting to see what this does to the game mechanics. Can we expect to see a more controlled AI with a larger spread or does it only increase the chance of succes with lower tier sprinters?
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cio93 |
Posted on 01-09-2022 10:21
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Poor Ganna maxes out and immediately faces much tougher opposition.
Intriguing considering TTs also have (a lesser version of) the randomness factor to them that seemed to have discouraged sprint training.
I do like that there's no relevant training in the Herklotz and Demare tiers though, I was particularly worried about Kudus and Yates being targets this season, the former could've been elevated to a similar statline in the next couple of years.
And Lecuisinier's strength won't be relevant to Silvio if we can continue to avoid him.
In terms of my own plans, yes this is indeed the first time since 2016 that I'm not training my stars! I think Herklotz has truly found his final form (rip 84mo/84hil though ) and there are big plans on the horizon that I preferred carrying some funds over for.
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alexkr00 |
Posted on 01-09-2022 10:27
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So what SotD's stats are saying: not a good season to drop your top climber for a puncheur.
*chuckles* I'm in danger.
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roturn |
Posted on 01-09-2022 10:31
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It always good to have a 80+ in all terrains, so you don`t lose big but lose small in every terrain if you can`t afford training yourself.
Even if the hill terrain looks closer with more 80+ it`s good for me to see the biggest rivals such as Lutsenko/Mohoric not being trained, which sees De Bie still having an advantage, while others such as Hagen/Ponzi have declined again.
Van Hooydonck clearly will have a tougher season, while Groenewegen might have a better one hopefully.
Climbers no idea. No training for me, which sees Olivier missing out on his last training season, while I brought back Wellens into PT. So chances remain similar I guess. |
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TheManxMissile |
Posted on 01-09-2022 10:51
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Not surprised people have stayed away from Sprint training. With the game AI and Renewal penalties it's just not worth while. Happy to not see too much CT training on a personal note, but as always i feel we need to encourage more variety/possibility in training at this level to better spread cash and chances around the game.
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Eden95 |
Posted on 01-09-2022 11:23
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Was pretty excited at the lack of puncheurs in PCT, but Areruya just went and made every race a race for second. Can't believe he and Padun are only 26, they're only gong to get much worse.
Rodrigues, McCarthy, Halvorsen, Aranburu, Novak, Dunbar and Benoot the major trainings in PCT. Rodrigues and Novak straight up enter the pool of existing 80+ climbers/stage racers to muddle things even further for teams that went big for such riders, there's so much class here this season it's ridiculous
McCarthy, Benoot and Aranburu trying to plug the gap filled by the puncheur exodus. Not a lot of races for pure puncheurs these days, so McCarthy is an interesting option. Aranburu is definitely unexpected, but I hope that he does well. Benoot is cool to see trained further, hopefully we can avoid him this season Halvorsen obviously speaks for itself.
I decided to go with TT training for Dunbar to fill the void the heavy TTT teams left by going up to PT. Guys like Cattaneo, Kung and Dennis coming in also make it a bit more competitive, however there's still only 3 80+TT riders in PCT and 2 of them (Durbridge and Gonzales Salas) are glass cannons. It makes for some very interesting race planning options. Was initially going to train MT+2, but decided against it pretty quickly as he'd just fall into the scrap heap of climbers/stage racers.
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baseballlover312 |
Posted on 01-09-2022 13:33
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A few cobblers got a whole lot stronger, but lucky for me they were all PT for now and already better than my leader anyway. Pederson and Wurtz training up is cool to see as a Danish team. Dunbar training makes him the dominant force for years to come in the exact niche I wanted to corner with Kamna.
Interesting to see Novak get the mountain training for Lierse instead of Oomen. Not sure if that was a funding necessity or premeditated decision, but I figured Oomen was the guy they're building around. Of course, both are very young, and if they plan on keeping both long term, it will be just as useful.
Areruya training obviously the killer. He's immediately better than Beltran already at 26. Lopez may have more competition soon than he imagined he would. Benoot training will also affect us. His calendar choice should be very interesting. I'm most intrigued by the McCarthy training. It puts him just under Kinoshita and obviously makes Amaysim even more likely to bounce back to PT or win the PCT title, but I thought a different rider might get that money since McCarthy is already 30.
Obviously I don't know if I made the right choice in training Aranburu in hill instead of mountain. Or even in training Aranburu instead of, idk, Eg? But looking at the completed DB, it definitely looks like he'd much more anonymous as a 79 climber than a 79 puncheur, especially in PCT. So I can't regret it. I'll just have to plan as well as possible and hope he pans out.
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Jakstar22 |
Posted on 01-09-2022 14:10
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Stüssi can't believe he had to get trained. Well gonna be an interesting season aha
Lots of crazy trainings...We still have a lot of high level riders and in the top 10 in every terrain with at least one rider. Hopefully we can keep that and hold our own
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Fabianski |
Posted on 01-09-2022 16:31
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I like the Stüssi training
Less so the one on Schlegel, who became a real beast as well and should clearly be the division's best hybrid rider now. Which is reflected by him being #3 in terms of OVL.
Not surprised to see mainly mountains, hills and cobbles training, as those are the most "reliable" terrains in terms of game engine. Will be interesting to see if Halvorsen's +1 in sprint really makes him even stronger or if he suddenly takes over Ewan's leadout role for the division
Good to see that UBS also had some money left to spend on Swiss riders - remains to be seen if they had been better off putting it into some more leaders, though ^^
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