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Lisbon Classic - Discussion
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 25-01-2022 10:17
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 Lisbon Classic - Preview
We head to Portugal for the C1 Lisbon Classic. We should have a pretty good selection of the top Puncheurs from across the PCT and CT Divisions gathered here to fight for the race win.
From the Race Profile, you would expect it goes to the Puncheurs which has been the case both in 2020 and 2019. Meyer's win last season was courtesy of some aggressive riding in which he won by more than a minute in the end. Bellis in 2019 had the most energy in the sprint from a group of 22 riders.
| 1st | 2nd | 3rd | | 2020 | Travis Meyer | Kuznetsov | Vanspeybrouck | | 2019 | Bellis | Debesay | Cerny |
We first look at those riders who are strongest in the Hills but will need to ride the race hard and likely look to win with solo attacks or from a much smaller group. The 2 top guys stand out here in the form of  Skujins and  EBH. They both have a decent kick too. It wouldn't be too much of a surprise to see them attack late and finish 1-2.
 McCarthy and  Di Maggio will have to attack as they won't be winning too many reduced group sprints.
Of the other 4,  Bystrom has the most strength and loves an attack so he may be eyeing up some late solo efforts.  Bilbao may back himself in a reduced group sprint against those stronger than him so he might wait it out until the end.  Gautier and  Palini both have team leaders that would prefer a group sprint so I would expect them to be fairly passive.
| | | HIL | STA | SPR | ACC | FTR | | Toms | Skujins | 83 | 80 | 68 | 76 | 66 | | Edvald Boasson | Hagen | 83 | 78 | 71 | 76 | 73 | | Jay | McCarthy | 81 | 80 | 65 | 74 | 71 | | Cesare | Di Maggio | 81 | 72 | 64 | 74 | 66 | | Sven Erik | Bystrom | 79 | 75 | 68 | 76 | 78 | | Pello | Bilbao | 79 | 77 | 71 | 75 | 67 | | Cyril | Gautier | 78 | 73 | 66 | 74 | 75 | | Andrea | Palini | 78 | 75 | 68 | 74 | 69 |
You would expect the following riders to try to hold onto the lead group and wait it out for the final kilometers as they are the fastest sprinters of those hill specialists on the start line in Lisbon. Hard to look away from Van Stayen although the CT has 2 very strong representatives here in  Kump and  Tsatevich who have both had success this season already.
| | | HIL | STA | SPR | ACC | | Michael | Van Stayen | 78 | 74 | 83 | 76 | | Alexey | Tsatevich | 77 | 74 | 75 | 75 |  | Pascal | Ackermann | 77 | 75 | 77 | 80 | | Marko | Kump | 76 | 75 | 80 | 79 | | Wesley | Kreder | 75 | 75 | 77 | 78 | | Jonathan | Bellis | 77 | 79 | 73 | 74 | | Lilian | Calmejane | 77 | 73 | 72 | 76 |
Start List
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Stevens | | Tesfom | Okbamariam | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Michael | Van Stayen | Carrefour - ESPN | | Cyril | Gautier | Carrefour - ESPN | | Geremie | Nzeke | Carrefour - ESPN | | Kazushige | Kuboki | Carrefour - ESPN | | Jakub | Skala | Carrefour - ESPN | | Patrick | Bercz | Carrefour - ESPN | | Alberto | Dainese | Carrefour - ESPN | | Olivier | Le Gac | Cedevita | | Havard | Blikra | Cedevita | | Juan Pedro | Lopez | Cedevita | | Miha | Poljanec | Cedevita | | Alexander | Evans | Cedevita | | Matic | Groselj | Cedevita | | Goran | Antonijevic | Cedevita | | Gasper | Katrasnik | Cedevita | | Alexey | Tsatevich | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Pieter | Serry | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Eliot | Lietaer | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Tim | Declerq | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Oliver | Naesen | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Beka | Nareklishvili | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Alexander | Krieger | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Viktor | Manakov | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Jay | McCarthy | cycleYorkshire | | Jonathan | Bellis | cycleYorkshire | | Matthew | Holmes | cycleYorkshire | | Anders | Skaarseth | cycleYorkshire | | Javier | Romo | cycleYorkshire | | Ethan | Hayter | cycleYorkshire | | Dimitrios | Christakos | cycleYorkshire | | Andrew | Tennant | cycleYorkshire | | Rui | Oliveira | Duolingo | | Hayden | McCormick | Duolingo | | Choon Huat | Goh | Duolingo | | Jakub | Kaczmarek | Duolingo | | Yoshimitsu | Hiratsuka | Duolingo | | Tosh | Van der Sande | Duolingo | | Norman | Vahtra | Duolingo | | Shane | Archbold | Duolingo | | Gregory | Hugentobler | Eddie Stobart | | Nikita | Umerbekov | Eddie Stobart | | Floris | De Tier | Eddie Stobart | | asmund Romstad | Lovik | Eddie Stobart | | Daniel | Savini | Eddie Stobart | | Salvador | Moreno Hernandez | Eddie Stobart | | Emil | Andersson | Eddie Stobart | | Dmitri | Medvedev | Eddie Stobart | | Kristoffer | Skjerping | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Johan Fredrik | Ziesler | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Lorents Ola | Aasvold | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Jonathan | Salinas | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Guillaume | Martin | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Thymen | Arensman | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Dinmukhammed | Ulysbayev | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Oscar | Avelino | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Marko | Kump | HelloFresh | | Joao | Gaspar | HelloFresh | | Heiko | Redecker | HelloFresh | | Enrico | Battaglin | HelloFresh | | Amith Udaya | Kumara | HelloFresh | | Salvatore | Puccio | HelloFresh | | Mamyr | Stash | HelloFresh | | Pello | Bilbao | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | David | Boily | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Arvin | Moazemi | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Jan | Dieteren | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Florian | Scheit | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Jetse | Bol | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Josip | Rumac | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Burr | Ho | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Wataru | Mutsumine | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Murilo | Affonso | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Alejandro | Osorio | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Luis Enrique | Lopez Nolasco | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Luca | Sterbini | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Iver Johan | Knotten | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Roman | Maksimov | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Carlos Alexandre | Manarelli | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Edvald Boasson | Hagen | Minions | | Antoine | Duchesne | Minions | | Bjorn | Selander | Minions | | Borislav | Ivanov | Minions | | Leandro | Marcos | Minions | | Dusan | Kalaba | Minions | | Florentino | Marquez | Minions | | Jordan | Cheyne | Minions | | Cesare | Di Maggio | Polar | | Cyril | Barthe | Polar | | Michael | Rodriguez Galindo | Polar | | Joni | Brandao | Polar | | Flavio | De Luna | Polar | | Jerome | Baugnies | Polar | | Oscar | Guerao | Polar | | Mathieu | Bernaudeau | Polar | | Andrea | Palini | Strava | | Wesley | Kreder | Strava | | Rudy | Molard | Strava | | Peeter | Tarvis | Strava | | Jianhua | Ji | Strava | | Thanawut | Sanikwathi | Strava | | Sonny | Colbrelli | Strava | | Pascal | Ackermann | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Andriy | Orlov | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Nicolae | Tanovitchii | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Adrian | Nitu | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Volodymyr | Dzhus | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Martin | Papanov | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Dries | De Bondt | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Stanislaw | Aniolkowski | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Sven Erik | Bystrom | Trans Looney Tunes | | Lilian | Calmejane | Trans Looney Tunes | | Jonathan | McEvoy | Trans Looney Tunes | | Tomoyuki | Iino | Trans Looney Tunes | | Jaka | Primozic | Trans Looney Tunes | | Cristian | Munoz | Trans Looney Tunes | | Tesfay | Abraha | Trans Looney Tunes | | Iliyan | Kolev | Trans Looney Tunes | | Toms | Skujins | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Andreas | Kron | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Joris | Nieuwenhuis | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Tobias Halland | Johannessen | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Rasmus | Iversen | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Felix | Gross | Tryg - Ritter Sport |
I definitely wouldn't want to be a betting man on this one as it's a very hard one to call. Will late attacks prevail or will we have a reduced sprint? |
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 25-01-2022 10:25
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I'll be honest, I didn't look at previous results and just trusted the flat icon, so I sent Stallaert here  likely not a great idea, though maybe he gets recognized as a classics rider and actually stays close to the front, Vanspeybrouck's third place is encouraging in that way, though he is a far surperior puncheur. Could have been a nice profile for Vendrame, but he's not been terribly convincing so far this season.
Hagen or Kump to win it I feel like, but this type of course is one of the more open ones, so who knows. Looking forward to the race, thanks for the preview!
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 25-01-2022 10:30
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Since the team in Veenendaal was complete and utter sh*t in front of me, hopefully the secondary team in Lisbon will be better. Kalaba will definitely be there in a sprint, but hopefully EBH pulls a Meyer.
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| redordead |
Posted on 25-01-2022 10:44
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It still says it's a flat race, so I hope my complement of flat riders like Katrasnik, Poljanec and Antonijevic get a chance  Le Gac and Blikra could be options as puncheurs, but maybe I should've sent Gaudu here also?
Hoping for a good result either way, thanks for the preview 
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| Laurens147 |
Posted on 25-01-2022 11:09
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Like some of the other managers, not sure what to make of the profile
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| Nemolito |
Posted on 25-01-2022 11:30
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cunego59 wrote:
I'll be honest, I didn't look at previous results and just trusted the flat icon
Same
Anyway, if the whole peloton stays together, Maksimov is free to surprise me. Although I doubt that will happen. Also don't think Mutsumine's 77 hill is high enough for the AI to think of him as a serious contender for a win/good result.
Thanks for the preview!
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| whitejersey |
Posted on 25-01-2022 11:35
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Ok this startlist is a lot stronger than I expected, will be happy if Kump even kisses top 10 here 
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 25-01-2022 11:41
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Im glad we stayed away, strongly considered sending Eiking here.
Good luck everybody - My guess is a Van Stayen mass sprint finish
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| ember |
Posted on 25-01-2022 11:45
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Excited to see Ballerini here. He has struggled so far this season, not being good enough to be a leader, but also not finding those depth points I expected him to find. This should be a holden opportunity, though, as the profile should fit his characteristics.
Also hoping to see us represented in the breakaway, as we shouldn’t have anyone here «qualifying» for a typical leader role. Hopefully those present make the most of it, there’s everything to win and nothing to loose |
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 25-01-2022 11:55
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A chance for the Kraftwerk hills squad to atone for Poland.
Thanks for the preview LLS.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 25-01-2022 15:04
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Pretty shocked that the startlist is not so strong given how stacked PCT hills are this year. I guess the true puncheurs fear the flat finish would give them enough space to fight off the sprinters.
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 25-01-2022 15:22
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Hoping for Kump or Calmejane but this could be anybodys race. I expect a late attack to succeed here, or a punchy sprinter like van Stayen to take home the bacon.
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 26-01-2022 08:03
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Think we have a solid team for this event for once - with R. Oliveira, H. McCormick and Van der Sande. Should be good enough for a top10 I hope, but this is always a shot in the dark.
Thanks for the preview, LLS!
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 26-01-2022 09:33
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How did we get a sprint here? Well, congrats Pollos!
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| redordead |
Posted on 26-01-2022 09:43
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Ugh, we had Katrasnik, Antonijevic and Groselj all near the front and none of them tried to attack 
At least we scored a few points and I guess we were due a bad race
Congrats Nemo, two great days of sprinting for you
Thanks for the report LLS
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 26-01-2022 09:46
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Wow, so we did get a sprint after all! Bit of a surprise, but a welcome one for us. Surprising that someone like Maksimov, with his terrible uphill and subpar stamina and res stats was able to win in, but I'm happy for Nemo that he's stepping up. It's a bit unfortunate that Stallaert was apparently positioned so poorly going into the sprint, but 9th is still more than I had expected pre-race, so we're good. Also, nice of Khederi to show up in the breakaway! Always a pleasure to see that.
Thanks for the report LLS, you made the most out of this somewhat unspectacular course of events!
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| roturn |
Posted on 26-01-2022 09:50
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I must admit, that I was surprised that there weren`t more sprints in the past. Just 2-3 real sprints in the results. So half the events were going to late attacks or punchy sprints.
From mind, I had expected a kind of Paris Tours history but was apparently wrong.
Surprised to see the weaker performance by Kump on such finish though.
Congrats to the winner though. Maksimov barely wins but always from time to time. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 26-01-2022 09:54
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Eh what was this, a slow race for this profile. Nice report though!
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 26-01-2022 09:55
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The race not entertaining enough for Hagen and Kalaba cannot finish it in the sprint. April 28th has been a horrible day for the Minions.
Congrats Nemolito and thanks LLS!
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 26-01-2022 10:14
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Yeah I won't lie. I was waiting for attacks on the hills near the end and nothing came and then I saw all the sprinters come forward to the front and thought "so we're getting a sprint from guys who can barely go over a speed bump"
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