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Tour of Southland Discussion
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| redordead |
Posted on 02-12-2021 07:42
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 Tour of Southland 
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Welcome to the 8th edition of the Tour of Southland. This is a race for the riders that like hills. Well more exactly for riders that like one hill. Two of the five stages that are mostly flat, end in a hilltop finish. That's what decides the winner of this race. The gaps between the favourites are often small or non-existent. Apart from that there are also 3 flat stages for the sprinters. The best and most consistent sprinter tends to come away with the points jersey, but we haven't yet seen a sprinter challenge for a top GC place, because only the top 3 stage results offer bonus seconds.
With that said let's look at some of the favourites:
| FL | MO | HI | RS | SP | AC |  Hagen | 75 | 68 | 83 | 71 | 71 | 76 |  Borges | 70 | 70 | 80 | 73 | 71 | 81 |  Kelderman | 70 | 71 | 82 | 75 | 67 | 72 |  Boswell | 70 | 71 | 80 | 73 | 65 | 76 |  McCarthy | 70 | 67 | 81 | 75 | 65 | 74 |  Moscon | 71 | 73 | 79 | 77 | 59 | 73 |  Betancourt | 69 | 73 | 80 | 71 | 67 | 74 |  Prevar | 72 | 71 | 80 | 70 | 67 | 73 |  Edmondson | 70 | 69 | 79 | 72 | 70 | 76 |  Chaves | 70 | 76 | 79 | 73 | 60 | 72 |  Van Stayen | 75 | 63 | 78 | 69 | 83 | 76 |  Müller | 70 | 65 | 80 | 71 | 66 | 72 |  Dowsett | 69 | 64 | 79 | 68 | 65 | 70 |
We have a strong list of puncheur here to contest the overall win. Top favourite has to be MG legend Hagen who has returned to try and once again dominate the PCT division. He'll face stiff competition from an explosive rider like Borges or top quality puncheurs such as Kelderman and McCarthy. Representing perhaps the best of the CT division is Boswell, and speaking of CT. Moscon will try to revive his rivalry with Kelderman from last year and challenge the best.
Betancourt is proven at this level and at this race, finishing in the top 5 in both of the last two editions. Don't forget last year's runner up Prevar as well. Edmondson and Chaves bring different skills sets, but even more quality from CT. Van Stayen is a unique hilly sprinter who will try to use the sprint stages to his advantage. Müller get leadership from UBS in the absence of Ponzi, as does Dowsett for Eurosport x GCN.
| FL | HI | RS | SP | AC | | Reinhardt | 71 | 67 | 66 | 79 | 84 |  Maksimov | 71 | 59 | 67 | 80 | 82 | | Vesely | 73 | 68 | 68 | 81 | 80 | | Halvorsen | 76 | 65 | 71 | 80 | 80 | | Van Stayen | 75 | 78 | 69 | 83 | 76 |  Selig | 71 | 65 | 68 | 79 | 81 | | Wippert | 70 | 67 | 70 | 78 | 82 |  Kump | 73 | 76 | 72 | 80 | 79 |  Perera | 71 | 64 | 73 | 79 | 80 |  Appollonio | 74 | 66 | 66 | 81 | 78 |  Nelson | 71 | 59 | 63 | 80 | 80 | | Lutsyshyn | 70 | 54 | 73 | 79 | 80 | | Nizzolo | 73 | 64 | 67 | 80 | 79 |  Bouhanni | 74 | 63 | 69 | 80 | 77 |
The 3 flat stages have attracted a fair number of quality sprinters. Reinhardt hasn't had a good start to life in PCT, but still possesses his unique acceleration with which he can win races. Maksimov will be thinking in a similar way. The Russian has also won the points jersey here in 2019. Vesely is another great sprinter capable of winning every race and the young Halvorsen is quickly making a name for himself also. But Van Stayen might be the sprinter with the most pressure here as he carries GC responsibilities for Carrefour as well.
We have some quality CT sprinters here with riders like Selig, Wippert and veteran Kump. Perera will want to improve from his no show in Portugal. Appollonio has dropped from PT to CT, but has the top end speed to win races. Nelson doesn't fancy difficult stages so these would suit him to a tee. Lutsyshyn, Nizzolo and Bouhanni aren't household names, but you never know what can happen in a sprint.
Full startlist:
Spoiler | Paez | Andres | Aramco DP | | Abdul Halil | Mohamad Izzat Hilmi | Aramco DP | | Fernandez | Ruben | Aramco DP | | Castrillo | Jaime | Aramco DP | | Thijssen | Gerben | Aramco DP | | Sureda | Jaume | Aramco DP | | Noia | Carlo | Aramco DP | | Hesters | Jules | Aramco DP | | Edmondson | Joshua | BNZ-Superhero Racing | | Schultz | Nicholas | BNZ-Superhero Racing | | Wippert | Wouter | BNZ-Superhero Racing | | Watson | Calvin | BNZ-Superhero Racing | | Schleck | Andy | BNZ-Superhero Racing | | Orue | German Anibal | BNZ-Superhero Racing | | Gillett | Rhys | BNZ-Superhero Racing | | Scott | Cameron | BNZ-Superhero Racing | | Stallaert | Joeri | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Perera | Madushanka | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Ndayisenga | Valens | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Vendrame | Andrea | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Eyob | Mektel | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Vliegen | Loic | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Khederi | Souheil | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Tesfatsion | Natnael | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Barbier | Rudy | BWT Hyundai N Cycling | | Robov | Momchil | BWT Hyundai N Cycling | | Lilovski | Dobrin | BWT Hyundai N Cycling | | Vink | Michael | BWT Hyundai N Cycling | | Andersen | Michael Valgren | BWT Hyundai N Cycling | | Kochetkov | Mikhail | BWT Hyundai N Cycling | | Stokbro | Andreas | BWT Hyundai N Cycling | | Szarka | Gergely | BWT Hyundai N Cycling | | Van Stayen | Michael | Carrefour - ESPN | | Daniel | Maxime | Carrefour - ESPN | | Hayakawa | Tomohiro | Carrefour - ESPN | | Gautier | Cyril | Carrefour - ESPN | | Dakteris | Janis | Carrefour - ESPN | | Bercz | Patrick | Carrefour - ESPN | | Nzeke | Geremie | Carrefour - ESPN | | McCarthy | Jay | cycleYorkshire | | Bellis | Jonathan | cycleYorkshire | | Holmes | Matthew | cycleYorkshire | | Skaarseth | Anders | cycleYorkshire | | Bar | Jocelyn | cycleYorkshire | | Atkins | George | cycleYorkshire | | Stannard | Ian | cycleYorkshire | | Borges | Bruno | Duolingo | | Oliveira | Rui | Duolingo | | McCormick | Hayden | Duolingo | | Bagioli | Nicola | Duolingo | | Merlier | Tim | Duolingo | | Rachid | Elias Abou | Duolingo | | Archbold | Shane | Duolingo | | Vahtra | Norman | Duolingo | | Nizzolo | Giacomo | Eurosport x GCN | | Gibbons | Ryan | Eurosport x GCN | | Dowsett | Alex | Eurosport x GCN | | McLay | Dan | Eurosport x GCN | | Landa | Mikel | Eurosport x GCN | | Groves | Kaden | Eurosport x GCN | | Rutsch | Jonas | Eurosport x GCN | | Carr | Simon | Eurosport x GCN | | Appollonio | Davide | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Bauhaus | Phil | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Li | Wen Hao | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Ratto | Daniele | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Skjerping | Kristoffer | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Zingle | Axel | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Arensman | Thymen | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Ulysbayev | Dinmukhammed | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Nelson | Ricki | Glanbia Foods Cycling Project | | Martin | Daniel | Glanbia Foods Cycling Project | | Haas | Nathan | Glanbia Foods Cycling Project | | King | Ben | Glanbia Foods Cycling Project | | Teggart | Matthew | Glanbia Foods Cycling Project | | McCarthy | Eoin | Glanbia Foods Cycling Project | | Hahessy | Sean | Glanbia Foods Cycling Project | | Downey | Mark | Glanbia Foods Cycling Project | | Kump | Marko | HelloFresh | | Van Keirsbulck | Guillaume | HelloFresh | | Redecker | Heiko | HelloFresh | | De Vos | Adam | HelloFresh | | Stash | Mamyr | HelloFresh | | Kumara | Amith Udaya | HelloFresh | | Puccio | Salvatore | HelloFresh | | Tikhonin | Evgenii | HelloFresh | | Reinhardt | Theo | Jura - Fiat | | Moscon | Gianni | Jura - Fiat | | Lienhard | Fabian | Jura - Fiat | | Habtom | Mikiel | Jura - Fiat | | Thiery | Cyrile | Jura - Fiat | | Stocker | Manuel | Jura - Fiat | | Tediashvili | Giorgi | Jura - Fiat | | Froidevaux | Robin | Jura - Fiat | | Maksimov | Roman | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Manarelli | Carlos Alexandre | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Mutsumine | Wataru | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Minoungou | Oumaru | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Ruiz | Robinson Steven | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Lopez Nolasco | Luis Enrique | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Knotten | Iver Johan | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Beltran | Guillermo Andres | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Boswell | Ian | McCormick Pro Cycling | | Tivani | German Nicolas | McCormick Pro Cycling | | Seigle | Roman | McCormick Pro Cycling | | Revard | Thomas | McCormick Pro Cycling | | Granigan | Noah | McCormick Pro Cycling | | Rojus | Adomaitis | McCormick Pro Cycling | | Hecht | Gage | McCormick Pro Cycling | | Chaiyasombat | Thanakhan | McCormick Pro Cycling | | Hagen | Edvald Boasson | Minions | | Vesely | Daniel | Minions | | Zepuntke | Ruben | Minions | | Duchesne | Antoine | Minions | | Hodeg | Alvaro | Minions | | Marcos | Leandro | Minions | | Selander | Bjorn | Minions | | Vansevenant | Mauri | Minions | | Kelderman | Wilco | Philips - Force India | | David | Tom | Philips - Force India | | Paprstka | Tomas | Philips - Force India | | Jans | Roy | Philips - Force India | | Anguilet | Charles | Philips - Force India | | Bovenhuis | Jasper | Philips - Force India | | Lafay | Victor | Philips - Force India | | Leemreize | Gijs | Philips - Force India | | Halvorsen | Kristoffer | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Betancourt | Carlos | Red Bull Zalgiris | | De Gendt | Aime | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Krizek | Matthias | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Juodvalkis | Egidijus | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Einhorn | Itamar | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Leknessund | Andreas | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Nepomnyachsniy | Alexandr | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Felline | Fabio | Strava | | Bouhanni | Nacer | Strava | | Sbaragli | Kristian | Strava | | Sanikwathi | Thanawut | Strava | | Colbrelli | Sonny | Strava | | Kuznetsov | Vyacheslav | Strava | | Ji | Jianhua | Strava | | Kluge | Roger | Strava | | Ackermann | Pascal | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Prevar | Oleksandr | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Lutsyshyn | Roman | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Budyak | Anatoliy | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | De Bondt | Dries | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Aniolkowski | Stanislaw | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Orlov | Andriy | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Pronskiy | Vadim | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Spengler | Lukas | Team UBS | | Dall'Oste | Daniele | Team UBS | | Müller | Patrick | Team UBS | | Schäppi | Martin | Team UBS | | Fuchs | Dominik | Team UBS | | Grand | Arnaud | Team UBS | | Jacobs | Johan | Team UBS | | Cemazar | Nik | Team UBS | | Selig | Rüdiger | Trans Looney Tunes | | McEvoy | Jonathan | Trans Looney Tunes | | Keukeleire | Jens | Trans Looney Tunes | | Pibernik | Luka | Trans Looney Tunes | | Mottin | Hugues | Trans Looney Tunes | | Primozic | Jaka | Trans Looney Tunes | | Munoz | Cristian | Trans Looney Tunes | | Knox | James | Trans Looney Tunes | | Hoelgaard | Daniel | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Nieuwenhuis | Joris | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Johannessen | Tobias Halland | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Klaris | Magnus Bak | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Gross | Felix | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Iversen | Rasmus | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Chaves | Johan Esteban | Volcanica - Fox | | Marin | Gabriel | Volcanica - Fox | | Barbero | Carlos | Volcanica - Fox | | Mudarra | Pablo | Volcanica - Fox | | Villalobos | Roman | Volcanica - Fox | | Jurado | Cristofer Robin | Volcanica - Fox | | Rojas | Henry Antonio | Volcanica - Fox | | Jimenez Retana | John | Volcanica - Fox |
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 02-12-2021 08:56
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I have 3 hopes here.
1. Paez is somewhat present in the Uphill finish stages. He’s got the FTR stat and the SPR/ACC to put up some kind of challenge.
2. Abdul Halil tries to sprint. Not expecting much but it’d be nice.
3. We’re active in the breakaways.
Other than that, thank you for the preview and good luck to all!
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| DarkWolf |
Posted on 02-12-2021 09:07
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Tough field around here, but I do love New Zealand and because of that I'm glad the team is competing here. Chaves is on the favorites list but with such strong competition I would be happy if he finishes the race in top 10/top 15. I would also like for Gabriel Marin to be present in the sprints. Not to win, mind you, but to make an effort there. Some presence in the breakaways would be very nice as well.
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| Nemolito |
Posted on 02-12-2021 09:24
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No GC ambitions for us at all, but would be nice to see Maksimov take a stage win. It will be interesting to see how the cooperation with Manarelli as a domestique works out. Thank you for the preview!
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 02-12-2021 09:46
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Hope Edmondson can put out a strong showing for BNZ here to get the Kiwi fans onboard 
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| whitejersey |
Posted on 02-12-2021 09:58
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Thanks for the preview! Looking primarily at stages 2 and 4 here since they should suit Kump!
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 02-12-2021 10:12
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The only race where Hagen and Vesely clash. Last year a similar situation with Claeys ruined the latter so hopefully the AI has become smarter. As long as Hagen wins this thing by an hour.
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| TinxiaS |
Posted on 02-12-2021 10:14
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This will be a tough race for my team. I hope my team can get a few points at least from this race.
Thanks for preview redordead.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 02-12-2021 10:33
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Just here to ruin the days for the other teams!
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| MacC |
Posted on 02-12-2021 12:18
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Time to test out our new Sprinter, Ricki Nelson, tough field though.
Maybe Martin and Haas can stick with the top puncheurs and land some GC points.
Thx for preview, good luck all
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 02-12-2021 12:36
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Yo Kelderfail, time to earn your wage!
Thanks for the preview red
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 02-12-2021 13:15
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No idea what to expect. Hope that at least one of Ndayisenga, Vendrame, Eyob or Vliegen can do something on the uphill finishes. Perera was crap in Portugal, but I've also brought Stallaert here, who had some race days to spare. Maybe the two of them can work together to get a result? Lastly, hopefully we are active in breakaways, as a last resort to score some points. Thanks for the preview red, and good luck to everyone!
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 02-12-2021 14:18
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A race we are quite content to avoid. Should be a decent indicator for some important riders this year.
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| quadsas |
Posted on 02-12-2021 14:49
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Potentially a high scoring race for, Betancourt + Halvorsen duo already scored big year, let's hope it continues
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 02-12-2021 15:12
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Slightly nervous about Van Stayen here given the startlist, hoping that it turns out better than I'm imagining. On the positives I do think he should be in quite solid contention on most of the stages, even though we have brough more of sprint-support based team rather than other puncheurs (out of worry of potential weird PCM leader issues)
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 02-12-2021 16:06
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Don't really know what to expect from Moscon here. Definitely some really strong pure puncheurs, but especially the stage 4 hill looks pretty long. So hopefully his great Res and solid Mo should kick in.
On the other hand, Reinhardt finally has to deliver. Stocker and Habtom are here to support him, hopefully he'll get a couple of good stage results. But the competition is strong as well...
Thanks for the preview, and good luck everyone!
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 02-12-2021 23:04
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This is always a sort of lottery-race. It'd be important for us to see Borges shine here. Let's see. Good luck everyone!
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 02-12-2021 23:33
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Boswell's first C1 adventure, glad to see startlist isn't overwhelming but agree the AI can go many ways on these kind of stages.
First chance to see if Tivani can leverage his res to pick up cheap sprint points. Field might be a bit deep for that.
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 03-12-2021 10:27
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Vesely sprinted, that is good, though the result could have been better. Hagen in the front few positions leads me to suspect the AI can actually handle this multi-leadership now  Looking forward to the rest of the stages!
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 03-12-2021 10:51
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It's good that Perera was sprinting, but his positioning was bad, started too far behind and didn't have the punch to get to the front. Progress, though. Thanks for the report!
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