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SportingNonsense
The race to the sun is back on hilly ground this year. There's four hill stages in their own right, two sprint stages that both have some uphill in the final kilometre, and even some bits of climbing to do in the two short time trials.

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As ever, there's the clash with the Classique du Grand-Duché, and of the the ten 83+ hill riders around, half are here, and half are there.

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And surely we are going to see a new winner to this race. Yuri Trofimov is a double winner, but that was many seasons ago now; the bi-annual defending champion Lutsenko is not here, nor is 2015 champ EBH.

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pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/aeg.png De Bie71837272
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/bnm.png Bobridge69837769
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/ino.png Bakelants74836672
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/iso.png Mohoric71836467
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/fpc.png McCarthy67815865
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/fes.png Koretzky71816371
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pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/gen.png Ulissi66806274
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pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/vvg.png Gautier68806468
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/des.png Yates70796875
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/evo.png Van Stayen64796084
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/afk.png Sicard82787664

Ponzi will start as favourite, looking to show he can win in France as well as Italy. We'd expect to see De Bie, Bobridge, Bakelants and Mohoric in the Top 5 too, based on their stats, and looking to challenge for that victory. Bobridge will look to make the most of the time trials, with De Bie also reasonable in that domain.

McCarthy, Koretzky Boswell, Ulissi, Buchmann and Gautier are the remaining 80+ riders in the race and all will hope for some good results, and behind them there's the strong acceleration of Yates, the sprinting strength of Van Stayen and the wildcard factor in Sicard. If Mountain stat at all comes into play, he could be dangerous.

HillSPACC
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pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/bnm.png Howard688279
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/des.png Zabel698179
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/aeg.png Vesely688180
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/tti.png Van Heerden678172
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/ino.png Goss668177
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/t3a.png Keukeleire708079
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/vvg.png Manninen668080
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/fes.png Petit658078
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/fab.png Guardini648082
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/ssc.png Bouhanni638077
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/tti.png Meyer628076
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/grm.png Bertilsson697977
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/fpc.png Kemboi637980

Van Stayen's aim for this race has got to be to have the race lead by Stage 3, and look to use that to his advantage as the hills kick in. Howard, Zabel and Vesely are likely to be his closest competitors on those two flat stages.


HillTTPL
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/ssc.png Leung647882
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/fes.png Vlatos668181
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/vvg.png Kittel648181
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/bnm.png Dennis757881
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/grm.png Andersen647081
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/fpc.png Kemboi636381
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/ebd.png Howson658080
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/aeg.png Paillot718080
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/tti.png Yatsevich688080
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/pum.png Sütterlin658080
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/evo.png Stoltz686680
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/gen.png Viviani667979
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/t3a.png Hepburn667979
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/tmo.png Hamza637679
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/tti.png Vorobev657978

Leung won the opener last year and will go for the repeat this year, but there's a lot of competition here for these two opportunities - the race clearly proving more attractive to the time trial and prologue specialists, rather than Tirreno.
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sgdanny
Favorite in a PT race? Na I don't buy it for a second. We'll find a way of screwing up. Not that worried about the TTs, I'm more scared of daily form giving one of those riders an advantage
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Mresuperstar
Time to have a little fun in Pro Tour again. Hopefully Yates and Zabel can play spoiler and steal some points away from the top flight teams. Pfft
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tsmoha
Key race for us. Dennis for the prologue, Howard for the sprints, Bobridge for the other stages and GC. We surely have some pressure to deliver.

Not sure about the new mo/hill matrix and Bobridge though. We will see.
 
SotD
One of the races where we potentially could do well, and potentially do nothing notable... Koretzky have the firepower and aggressiveness to play a key part in the selections, but will he try? On paper he's among the worst TT riders so in that logical sense he would/should need to try something.

If we are lucky then Vlatos could take the early lead, and maybe keep the jersery for a day or two, which was the reason for us bringing him here and Coquard to Tirreno where the sprints seemed more "flat".

Petit on his own, but I suspect the uphill finish will make it too difficult to actually get a result.
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knockout
That sprinter startlist is basically better than the best case scenario Grin
Absolutely dig it and suddenly im glad that i brought Stoltz as additional support here despite the much stronger prlogue startlist.

Looking at how many puncheurs skip this for Grand Duche i probably should have taken some additional hill support as i pretty much went all out for the flat stages. Becis - Dzamastagic as the intended leadout plus Stoltz, Riesebeek, Neilands and Nooytens as flat powerhouses. Only Bekmanis is a pure hilly helper although especially Riesebeek and Becis can survive some hills too.

Really excited for this race Grin
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cio93
This could've been decent for Arndt, if I had accepted the 90+ seconds lost in the TTs, but I couldn't fit in the race days considering he has to lead most hilly classics for us this season, and I hope he'll do well in Grand-Duche together with former winner Demare anyway.


Therefore, this is purely a development squad here in our least prioritized race of the clash.
Besides expecting many breakaway appearances, at most we can hope for a lucky daily form in the prologue for Sütterlin, some decent signs of things to come for Ganna in the TTs, and maybe Cavagna survives stage 4 and somehow gets into the mix in the sprint.

Most importantly though, this is the first career race for Valentin Madouas, and it's even a home race! (well he's from Brest but IT COUNTS!)
It would be nice to see him try his luck somewhere, but I just hope he enjoys the team atmosphere and starts gaining racing experience towards his final form, when he will probably enjoy this kind of route very much.



Also: van Stayen is a coward! Pfft
 
knockout
cio93 wrote:
Also: van Stayen is a coward! Pfft


Clearly Demare is the one trying to avoid Van Stayen by going to a GT Cool
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cio93
knockout wrote:
cio93 wrote:
Also: van Stayen is a coward! Pfft


Clearly Demare is the one trying to avoid Van Stayen by going to a GT Cool


Inside sources report that van Stayen realized he could never win six stages in any single GT and gave up on even just trying!
 
knockout
cio93 wrote:
knockout wrote:
cio93 wrote:
Also: van Stayen is a coward! Pfft


Clearly Demare is the one trying to avoid Van Stayen by going to a GT Cool


Inside sources report that van Stayen realized he could never win six stages in any single GT and gave up on even just trying!


The inside scource gave false information & dealt with corrupt manager cio. He must be brought forward to testify. Written answers not acceptable! Where is the inside scource? Does he even exist? Where is the informant? Con!
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tastasol
Hopefully a good prologue from Kragh Andersen, and then it will be all about breakaways...
 
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Seems like I should've brought Kump here.
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tsmoha
Had hoped for a better result from Dennis. Bobridge not far off, but not special neither. Well, many days to come, where we should be amongst the contenders for line honours!
 
CrueTrue
I'm hoping that Sicard can somehow compete with the classics specialists here. Should be a fun race.
 
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Tamijo
Congrats to Heine.
Very small margins but a win is a win.

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cio93
SUCCESS!! Shock

We got the lucky dice roll this time around, third for Sütterlin makes up for a lot of bad luck for him last season.
And more than just that, Filippo Ganna with his first noteworthy prologue performance in our jersey snags a couple of ranking points for second in the U25 already! Plus absolute youngster Florian Stork in a strong 25th.

We already exceeded the points scoring I expected from the entire race, besides the points for finishing. Smile



knockout wrote:
cio93 wrote:
knockout wrote:
cio93 wrote:
Also: van Stayen is a coward! Pfft


Clearly Demare is the one trying to avoid Van Stayen by going to a GT Cool


Inside sources report that van Stayen realized he could never win six stages in any single GT and gave up on even just trying!


The inside scource gave false information & dealt with corrupt manager cio. He must be brought forward to testify. Written answers not acceptable! Where is the inside scource? Does he even exist? Where is the informant? Con!

IT WAS A PERFECT CALL!

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knockout
:lol:



4th by Stoltz is a very solid start and I happily take that in such a lottery!
Not too happy about MVS finishing 175th of 177 but i guess that is just him being an Evonik leader Pfft
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Heine
Hamza!

Now that was unexpected, he has now done more than I expected for him for the entire year!
 
ember
Admittedly we've got a team here I can't expect much from. Though, it's a chance for Oss to shine on the easier hilly stages. It will be very interesting to see how he does, as he'll have plenty of similar chances later on in the season.

Congratulations on the prologue win, Heine!
 
SotD
Surprising win. Nice one Hamza :-)

Vlatos unfortunately with a no show, but it’s the first TT of the season we don’t win so I guess that’s OK :-D
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