Hi guys, so I've spent a lot of time on the game, got pretty good almost everywhere (i will post some tips soon for beginners) but I can't get my head around the hilly races. Do you have some tips?
Ive tried a few different things: if i just stay at the front of the peloton, the leaders attack 30Km before the end and I never see them again. If I try to follow them, I dot 85 with leader protected on the small hill from the front (at this moment Im in front of them) then they attack around the top of the hill. Then 3 solutions: if I dont attack, they leave me behind and back to square one: I dont see them again (but Im in front of the peloton). if I "follow" their attack, my red bar empty straight away and they leave me behind. If I attack, I follow them but I run out of yellow bar 15Km before the end....
Does anybody have a solution?
My rider is not the best in hill, but still I finish very far from the one with the same stats as mine.Roughly I have 79Mo, 76 Hill, 75 acc, 75sta, 75 res....
I'd say it's just a problem of your rider not being strong enough to hang on to the top riders, a 76 hill guy will definetly struggle to keep up with The likes of Gilbert, Rodriguez, Valverde, etc.
Try giving it a go on ingle race with a team with a stronger rider and seeing if you can win there.
In my opinion hilly classics/stages are the hardest to race, for the simple reason you have very liitle time to react and any delay in reacting is fatal and can't be recovered.
As trekbmc said your leader is not strong enough in the hill stat to race at the front with the other top hill stat riders in general.
The key to winning though is to keep your leader protected and at the front near the final hills and then you're left with two choices, either to attack yourself but this is hard to judge sometimes and it's easy to go too early and run out of energy, if in doubt though earlier is better than later. The best option though is probably to follow immediately and you need to do this by attacking or counter attacking as high dot is just no good on hills, once this is achieved then its a case of timing yur final attack or uphill sprint and when you win it feels great.
For the record I find it much easier to win LBL than either the FW or Amstel Gold, as with the LBL the riders become fatigued and the peloton breaks so more room for planning, whereas in FW or Amstel it's a mad rush up the final climb and if you're not at the front and in form you ain't winning.
Yeah that's the only type of race I'm struggling with on hard, all the other one, I do pretty good results even if I dont have the best rider in the race.
Agree, FW and Amstell are actually the one I was talking about, LBL is ok.
Thanks for the advice, I'll try to do a single race with a tough guy, see what happen
Pieroku wrote:
Yeah that's the only type of race I'm struggling with on hard, all the other one, I do pretty good results even if I dont have the best rider in the race.
Agree, FW and Amstell are actually the one I was talking about, LBL is ok.
Thanks for the advice, I'll try to do a single race with a tough guy, see what happen
Even when using guys like Valverde, Gilbert and Kwiatkowski it's probably still going to take a few tries to get it right and even when you do, hilly stages will always be the hardest to win, as to win you usually always need good daily form as well to maximise your red and yellow bars.
That's odd.
I had a Be a Pro career with a puncher.
When the stats were among the best (so best HILL or HILL - 1 and RES, STA etc just like the competition, I found that FW was the easiest to win (everything decided on final 2 hills so hardly any surprise. Amstel is fricking impossible since I always missed the right move. They just went and I always miss it
Liège is tough, too, though. Harder than Fleche for me. With Flèche I just dot 85 from the top of the final hill, see what I can do downhill (if can ride away, do so). If not, dot 80 to the foot of the final climb and then sprint up the wall of Huy.
Ian Butler wrote:
That's odd.
I had a Be a Pro career with a puncher.
When the stats were among the best (so best HILL or HILL - 1 and RES, STA etc just like the competition, I found that FW was the easiest to win (everything decided on final 2 hills so hardly any surprise. Amstel is fricking impossible since I always missed the right move. They just went and I always miss it
Liège is tough, too, though. Harder than Fleche for me. With Flèche I just dot 85 from the top of the final hill, see what I can do downhill (if can ride away, do so). If not, dot 80 to the foot of the final climb and then sprint up the wall of Huy.
That's just my experience, though
Amstel is the single hardest classic I know from the main classics in the game, as the timing has to be spot on.
For FW You dot 80-85 from the penultimate climb downhill and you still have enough power to hold on up the Mur? I think your other option though sounds good with sprinting up the Mur from the bottom and are you doing this on 99 sprint or a lower number?
When sprinting, effort doesn't matter. Can be 1 or 99, he will sprint
Dot 80 from the penultimate climb depends on the profile, though. New profile, yes. Old profile, a bit too long so I bring it down. I just keep dotting so I'm with the first 3 of the group, so I have a free path on the Mur Getting blocked in means losing on the Mur in the game.
Ian Butler wrote:
When sprinting, effort doesn't matter. Can be 1 or 99, he will sprint
Dot 80 from the penultimate climb depends on the profile, though. New profile, yes. Old profile, a bit too long so I bring it down. I just keep dotting so I'm with the first 3 of the group, so I have a free path on the Mur Getting blocked in means losing on the Mur in the game.
Hell I always sprint at 99 just to make sure.
Yer new profile that's a good tactic and will try that, I was thinking old profile which would be too long.
Have you ever played Pellizotti's FW which has the Their de Huy right before the Mur, as 85 dot from the top of that downhill and then up the Mur would probably work as well.
