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Tour de France Betting 2015
CountArach
We have had this thread a couple of times in the past and it was fairly popular. We can share with each other what we are betting on (with real money, not PCM$) and ask for advice on what others think.

Bets I have done so far:
Pinot - Top 3 Finish @ 5:1 - Solid in case there are a couple of crashes. May also surprise with his climbing strength.
Martin - Top 10 Finish @ 4.95:1 I'm surprised that the odds are this long.
S. Yates - Top 10 Finish @ 11.90:1 - A real outside bet but still good odds I feel, considering the way that he has been riding.

And for today's stage:
Sagan to beat Brandle - 2.99:1 - Given the difficulty of the course I thought that Sagan's bike handling and explosiveness might give him an edge.
Contador to beat Nibali - 1.43:1 - I'd be really surprised if Nibali posts a better time than Contador.

Anyone else got any bets down?
Edited by CountArach on 04-07-2015 05:43
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Riis123
I have oddsed quite a bit on previous Tour, but decided not to this year. Ill probably end up deciding otherwise once it gets going since I love playing on the Tour.

I like the Martin-bet. I have said it numerous times, but I see Martin as a much better rider than Talansky and with no big time trials and explosive climbs early on, he could get a headstart. Showed last Vuelta he has got what it takes to ride for 3 weeks. Better climber than Talansky who imo is overrated since his Dauphine-win.

Pinot odds looks decent. You have to bet on some crashes there. Even if, I think Rodriguez will finish better.

I like the Simon Yates bet, allthough they stated otherwise. You never know what happens in the first week and should some contenders crash and Simon still be up there, I dont see why he shouldnt try to ride the GC.

I dont think the route is that technical, but meh. I dont really know Brandle, but 3 times the money again seems fine.

Contador to beat Nibali is the only one I dont like. Odds is to low to have value imo.

Btw, why do you write fx. 21:1 and not just 21, is it some Australian thingy?
 
CountArach
Riis123 wrote:
I like the Martin-bet. I have said it numerous times, but I see Martin as a much better rider than Talansky and with no big time trials and explosive climbs early on, he could get a headstart. Showed last Vuelta he has got what it takes to ride for 3 weeks. Better climber than Talansky who imo is overrated since his Dauphine-win.

Pretty much all of my thoughts summed up. I'm honestly surprised how long Vaughters has stuck with Talansky.
Riis123 wrote:
Contador to beat Nibali is the only one I dont like. Odds is to low to have value imo.

I use bets like that to cover bets like the Sagan one which are a bit less likely. If Contador beats Nibali and Sagan doesn't beat Brandle, I haven't lost any money.
Riis123 wrote:
Btw, why do you write fx. 21:1 and not just 21, is it some Australian thingy?

Nope, just how I write odds. Lots of different ways.
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roturn
I only made 3 bets this Tour so far. 2 pretty big ones though.

I got Degenkolb e/w on point jersey on 22:1 just when Kittel wasn`t nominated. He now was down to 7:1 or so I think.

Then a big bet on Jos Van Emden e/w today on 600:1, which is a ridiculous high odd for a known prologue specialist. So thought it`s worth the try.

And a 4x head to head for the prologue, in which I use to win 3 and lose the 3rd anyway. Pfft
Quintana to beat Pinot, Dowsett to beat Castroviejo, Barta to beat Cummings and Sagan to beat Clement. In total 9,8:1.


I decided against GC bets as too much can happen in 21 days and odds were too low for those imo.

@Count: Sagan to beat Brändle is unlikely imo. Brädnle really improved this year and is very strong in those time trials I think. I was even considering making a decent e/w on him today.

All this said, I only make small bets of 0,2€ or maximum of 1-2€. So not really making much profit but neither lose a lot. All over the year I am at +31€ and it could have been 20€ higher if I hadn`t lost a hilariously close h2h odd.
Edited by roturn on 04-07-2015 11:15
 
sosososik
CountArach wrote:
And for today's stage:
Sagan to beat Brandle - 2.99:1 - Given the difficulty of the course I thought that Sagan's bike handling and explosiveness might give him an edge.


The course isn't technical, a lot of the corners can be ridden at full gas.
Not saying Sagan won't beat Brandle tho. Wink
Good luck. Smile
Edited by sosososik on 04-07-2015 11:21
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CountArach
sosososik wrote:
CountArach wrote:
And for today's stage:
Sagan to beat Brandle - 2.99:1 - Given the difficulty of the course I thought that Sagan's bike handling and explosiveness might give him an edge.


The course isn't technical, a lot of the corners can be ridden at full gas.
Not saying Sagan won't beat Brandle tho. Wink
Good luck. Smile

Yeah I'm quickly coming to that realisation. Ah well, $3 is still pretty steep odds betting against Sagan on any course Pfft

@ roturn - crazy odds on JvE.
Edited by CountArach on 04-07-2015 11:23
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CountArach
Just made one last minute bet. Coppel to beat Chavanel @ 2.44.

Also cashed out my Sagan bet so that I only lost 40c rather than my whole $4 bet.
Edited by CountArach on 04-07-2015 11:45
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Spilak23
Staying away from final gc bets and all those. Too much can happen over 3 weeks.

4 bets for today:
Contador over Nibali at 1.6
Chavanel over Machado at 1.55
Frank over Sepulveda at 1.75
Thomas over Kwiatkowski at 2.10

Really like the Chavanel one.

Also: I was checking CQ to see if I would do EBH - GVA h2H and in 3 of the last 4 timetrials they did Hagen finished one place higher than Greg Pfft
Edited by Spilak23 on 04-07-2015 11:51
 
lakebeach
roturn wrote:
Then a big bet on Jos Van Emden e/w today on 600:1, which is a ridiculous high odd for a known prologue specialist. So thought it`s worth the try.

Looks like it may wasn't a bad bet, even though there are many riders left. Pfft
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CountArach
Yeah this could be a long and nervous day roturn.
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Riis123
lakebeach wrote:
roturn wrote:
Then a big bet on Jos Van Emden e/w today on 600:1, which is a ridiculous high odd for a known prologue specialist. So thought it`s worth the try.

Looks like it may wasn't a bad bet, even though there are many riders left. Pfft


No matter the outcome, its a freaking good odds. If he finds such odds 600 times chances are at least one of them will succeed, its great value and thats the way you win in the long run.
 
lakebeach
lakebeach wrote:
roturn wrote:
Then a big bet on Jos Van Emden e/w today on 600:1, which is a ridiculous high odd for a known prologue specialist. So thought it`s worth the try.

Looks like it may wasn't a bad bet, even though there are many riders left. Pfft

Well at least it looked good for about ten minutes :lol:
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roturn
This was close. Meh. Wink

Brandle - Sagan as I expected.
Nibali quite a surprise.
 
Kirchen_75
500 PCM on Tony down the drain. What is life. I'm not leaving anything on the table tomorrow :lol:
 
chrisw_bwfc
Ooo a betting thread.

Had an average start myself - only a place with Cancellara yesterday and today's bets of Degenkolb and Bouhanni missed the break, but my big pre-tour bet on Sagan to wear the yellow jersey @ 9/1 is looking very good indeed.

Tomorrow has the potential to be the most profitable betting stage of the tour. I think Paddy has mispriced Valverde as a huge favourite @ 2/1, meaning there is plenty of each-way value on riders such as Bardet @ 50/1. Contador also appeals at the same odds, and maybe even Froome at a massive 80/1 (knowing that it will only take one of them to fancy stretching their legs and the other will follow). Louis Mentjes will probably round up my betting (125/1)
Edited by chrisw_bwfc on 05-07-2015 17:05
 
Spilak23
Both Sagan over Degenkolb and Greipel over Cavendish good again. Greipel-Cav was at 2.9. Will continue to bet that one on the flat stages if it stays that high
 
Dee-Jay
Made an audacious cheap bet on Cancellara to win the stage at 40/1 and he very nearly did it.
My full tour bets -
Van Garderen to finish top 3 in GC still in with a good chance and Degenkolb to take green or runner up was set back a bit but at least Kristoff and Matthews didnt point either.
 
chrisw_bwfc
Wondering why Sagan has come in from 50/1 to a general 8/1 overnight for this stage :/
 
chrisw_bwfc
Right now it's like I look at a bet and the odds shorten before my eyes. Saw Froome at 100/1 for today's stage, went to 33/1 before I could place.

Looked at odds for tomorrow ten minutes ago - GvA and Greipel looked great at 18/1 and 33/1, now 9/1 and 18/1 lol
 
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