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Updated DB and Training List 2015
SportingNonsense
Here is the updated Post-Transfers DB: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zxwulf32936...s.xls?dl=0

It should be correct with all details. Let me know if you spot something off.

Here is a list of all the training that has taken place:
1t4iRobertGesinkMountain8182€ 1,700,000
AegonMartijnKeizerMountain7980€ 1,200,000
AegonMartijnKeizerMountain8081€ 1,400,000
AegonLucasSchädlichHill6364€ 100,000
AkerRasmusGuldhammerMountain8081€ 1,400,000
AkerDanielMartinMountain8182€ 1,700,000
AlpinaJanier AlexisAcevedoMountain7172€ 400,000
AmexMichaelKurthCobbles7475€ 500,000
AyubowanCyrilGautierHills7980€ 1,200,000
AyubowanThibautPinotMountain7980€ 1,200,000
AyubowanRomainVanderbiestSprint8182€ 1,700,000
AztecaDannySummerhillCobbles8182€ 1,700,000
BacardiJustoTenorioMountain8384€ 2,300,000
BacardiJustoTenorioAcceleration6465€ 100,000
BecherovkaLeighHowardSprint8081€ 1,400,000
BecherovkaLeighHowardSprint8182€ 1,700,000
BecherovkaPeterSaganSprint7273€ 700,000
BecherovkaPeterVelitsDownhill6364€ 100,000
BouyguesReinTaaramäeMountain8283€ 2,000,000
BpostPieterVanspeybrouckSprint6667€ 150,000
BuffCarlosBetancourtTT5960€ 100,000
ChernobylMykhayloKononenkoMountains7475€ 500,000
ChernobylMaciejUlanowskiHills5758€ 100,000
ChiquitaTaylorTollesonACC7475€ 500,000
ChiquitaTaylorTollesonCOB5758€ 100,000
EritelNatnaelBerhaneMO7879€ 1,000,000
EritelNatnaelBerhaneMO7980€ 1,200,000
FestinaSimonSpilakHill8081€ 1,700,000
FestinaSimonSpilakHill8182€ 1,700,000
FestinaJeromeCoppelMountain6566€ 125,000
GazelleTanelKangertHill7677€ 700,000
Good EnergyAdamBlytheHill6566€ 125,000
Good EnergyLukeRoweHill6465€ 100,000
Good EnergyAdamBlytheCobbles8182€ 1,700,000
Good EnergyJacopoGuarnieriMountain5758€ 100,000
Good EnergyTeodoroCostagliFlat6263€ 100,000
KarcherDaniloKupfernagelHill6263€ 100,000
KarcherDaniloKupfernagelHill6364€ 200,000
LierseKevinPeetersHill6061€ 100,000
LierseKevinPeetersHill6162€ 200,000
LierseStijnJosephCobble7576€ 600,000
MeijiJianhuaJiMountain7879€ 1,000,000
MeijiJianhuaJiMountain7980€ 1,200,000
MeijiTommyZainiHill7980€ 1,200,000
MovistarRoman MaksimovHill5354€ 100,000
MovistarRoman MaksimovHill5455€ 200,000
MovistarVadimRatiyFlat6566€ 125,000
NovatekChu ThienSinelobovFlat5960€ 100,000
NovatekArmanKharatyanFlat6869€ 250,000
NutresaSergioOrtegaDownhill5859€ 100,000
NutresaSaschaModoloMountain6061€ 100,000
OrangeMauriceSchreursHill7980€ 1,200,000
OrangeMauriceSchreursHill8081€ 1,400,000
OzJackBobridgeHill7980€ 1,200,000
PendletonsTimDeesTT7677€ 700,000
PendletonsTimDeesMountain7475€ 500,000
PendletonsTimKennaughTT7273€ 450,000
PendletonsTimKennaughMountain7677€ 700,000
PokerstarsErikMohsHill6263€ 100,000
PokerstarsJohnDegenkolbSprint8283€ 2,000,000
PrioTiagoMachadoSprint6061€ 100,000
PrioTiagoMachadoSprint6162€ 200,000
PrioÓscarAvelinoHill6364€ 100,000
PumaDominikNerzMountain7879€ 1,000,000
PumaDominikNerzMountain7980€ 1,200,000
QuickstepChrisFroomeHill8182€ 1,700,000
QuickstepIvano Lo CiceroHill6263€ 100,000
QuickstepIvano Lo CiceroHill6364€ 200,000
RBCBenatIntxaustiDownhill6364€ 100,000
RBCBenatIntxaustiSprint6162€ 100,000
SauberRiccardoZoidlMountain7374€ 450,000
Siam CementMeiyinWangHI7475€ 500,000
SwisscomRafaâChtiouiMountain5253€ 100,000
SwisscomPieterJacobsDownhill6162€ 100,000
SwisscomSébastienIvarsDownhill6263€ 100,000
TinkoffTimofeyKritskiyTT7980€ 1,200,000
TinkoffAlexanderRybakovHill7576€ 600,000
VenchiMichaelVan StayenSprint8182€ 1,700,000
VenchiMichaelVan StayenSprint8283€ 2,000,000
VesuvioBenGastauerH8182€ 1,700,000
VesuvioBenSwiftM5859€ 100,000
VesuvioBenSwiftM5960€ 200,000
VesuvioRichiePorteTT7677€ 700,000
VesuvioPedroMerino CriadoM5758€ 100,000
VolksWagenStefanDeniflMon8384€ 2,300,000
VolksWagenAlexandarFlügelHill8081€ 1,400,000
VolksWagenDmitriClaeysMon6667€ 150,000
VolksWagenStefanDeniflAcc6465€ 100,000

Edited by SportingNonsense on 25-05-2015 11:44
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cio93
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
 
FroomeDog99
Van Stayen with another big boost to take him from PCT race winning level to PT race winning level. Gesink and Tenorio's training makes this season's Vuelta something to really look forward to also.
 
Avin Wargunnson
Training Van Stayen like this should be banned. I think training cots need more tweaking for next year, because how on earth can promoting team afford training this beast to 83 sprint. He is now easily the best sprinter in the game for sure.

Tenorio and Gesink go trained for Vuelta. Frown
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 25-05-2015 13:23
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I swear some of you guys have money trees (can I have one?)... Or I'm just really bad at saving my money for training. Frown

Also Van Stayen is too OP. He should be tested. Pfft
 
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jph27
Well, that was a fun way to burn 4.1 million...
 
SotD
Oh wow van Stayen will be massive! Thank god I don't have a top top sprinter that can now be burned Pfft - Also Degenkolb is a beast.
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tsmoha
Van Stayen Rolling Eyes

Should have get rid off Goss Grin
 
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Training Van Stayen like this should be banned. I think training cots need more tweaking for next year, because how on earth can promoting team afford training this beast to 83 sprint. He is now easily the best sprinter in the game for sure.

Tenorio and Gesink go trained for Vuelta. Frown


I don't agree with you. He isn't in the top 3 of sprinters imo. He is clearly a top top rider, but I think that there are sprinters that should beat him in a classic sprint 8/10 times:

Ben Swift 84SPR / 82ACC
Sam Bewley 83SPR / 83ACC
John Degenkolb 83SPR / 81ACC

The acceleration stat might not be as important as it was last season, but 76FL is still nothing special considering other sprinters are also in the region of 74-78. His endurance and resistance is nothing spectacular and his recuperation is good but still worse than riders like Swift and Bewley.

His 77ACC stat makes me think of a rider I had. He was also 83SPR, and while he did well from time to time, he wasn't a dominant PT sprinter, by any means.

The 76HI stat will help him in some races, sure. But looking at the PT calendar I really don't think it will help him all that much compared to those with 70-72. He will be a favorite in Milano San Remo, but will he necessarily be the big favorite in Lisbon, Moscow or Praha? I don't think so. I would still bet my money on Sam Bewley in these races with Ben Swift as 2nd best.

So what can the 76HI stat do? Can he win Tasmania? Nope. Can he win TONE? Nope. Can he win Deutschland Tour? I doubt it. Can he win Vuelta al Pais Vasco? Doubtful. Paris-Nice? Nah... Can he win the hard one day classics like Liege - Bastogne - Liege? Absolutely not.

So what is the problem? We have another super sprinter. Big deal. He's nothing next to riders such as Yuri Trofimov, Edvald Boasson Hagen, Simon Spilak, Sam Bewley and Taylor Phinney.
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Smowz
@sotd don't forget 2 things.

1) Spilak at festina means he is guarenteed to crash once. So that excludes him from top rider list.

2) Maksimov, Lo Cicero, Mohs, Howard and certain former festina rider at least are great sprinters to add to that list. Sprinters who double up as great hill climbers do not really score as well in PT. mountain and hill stages are just harder. Of course Mvs has a chance in Germany tour.

Have venchi got the lead out for him, and more importantly have they anyone else on their roster who is any good. Denifl and tenorio up to 84 MO is packing the stage race bastards that is going to be a bloodbath!
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@sotd don't forget 2 things.

1) Spilak at festina means he is guarenteed to crash once. So that excludes him from top rider list.

2) Maksimov, Lo Cicero, Mohs, Howard and certain former festina rider at least are great sprinters to add to that list. Sprinters who double up as great hill climbers do not really score as well in PT. mountain and hill stages are just harder. Of course Mvs has a chance in Germany tour.

Have venchi got the lead out for him, and more importantly have they anyone else on their roster who is any good. Denifl and tenorio up to 84 MO is packing the stage race bastards that is going to be a bloodbath!


Indeed. Spilak will fuck up massively by crashing in atleast 3 races, just like Riccardo Ricco did last season, or Vadim Ratiy, or Fothen a couple of seasons back, or and so on... Smile

Indeed, there are a lot of top sprinters, hence my conclusion that he isn't really that overpowered. I would be extremely surprised if van Stayen ended up surviving the three hilly stages. There must surely be some strong hilly riders in that race that will make the race hard, and also it invites to breakaways imo. Add to that that Van Stayen clearly won't win all the flat stages and I would be surprised to see him any higher than 5th at the very best.

The GC rider madness is just crazy. We need some of those 83-85 MO guys to retire really. So Spilak can beast around !
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CountArach
Urgh suddenly Vanspeybrouck is mediocre on cobbles?

Brutal training once again this year but at least the limiting seemed to do its job.
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jph27
Would it be possible to have a macro-free version like with the pre-transfers database? Just with the file size bigger it takes an age to load Smile
 
cio93
Am I the only one who downloaded this and immediately had a kinda fucked up file?

With that I mean that STA RES REC COB SP and ACC miss the coloring for me for 98% of the riders.


Plus I second the macro-free request.
 
tsmoha
Coloring-bug, same here.
 
sutty68
My version looks perfect.
 
matt17br
It could be due to the document suite you guys are using. With Excel everything looks completely fine because of the compatibility, while any other suite will struggle to support properly every detail of the db. Normally they won't run the macros at all. In my case, trying with LibreOffice Calc the program can't even open the db.
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I know that my OpenOffice can't do the macros, but so far all DBs at least worked fine in that regard.
 
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