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[2015] Stat Gains, XP, Rankings, Race Eligibility, Team Info, Wildcards
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 02-05-2015 16:26
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This thread contains various pieces of information that are important for teams to be aware of.
Stat Increases
Stat increases work in the same way as they have done in the past. There are 5 levels of riders: Level 1, Level 2, Level 3, Level 4 and Maxed (Lvl 4 and 100 XP). Each time a rider gets to 100 xp they gain a level, and receive a stats increase of the manager's choice.
This choice comes from one of 11 categories. This file details the exact amount of gain that will be received, depending on Category, Level and Potential.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b617a699zbn...s.xls?dl=0
The XP for these increases is gained by racing. Each race day earns a particular amount of XP, depending on the category of race and level of the rider. If a riders fails to finish a race, they still receive the xp for the full race.
| XP | Level 1 | Level 2 | Level 3 | Level 4 | | GT | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | | M | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | | PT | 0 | 1 | 2 | 1 | | HC | 1 | 2.5 | 1.5 | 0.5 | | C1/C2HC | 2 | 2 | 1 | 0 | | C2 | 3 | 1.5 | 1 | 0 |
Additionally, the Tour de l'Avenir offers 20 xp to all riders who take part. Eligible riders this year are born in September 1992 or later. This 20 xp is the first XP to be added to a rider during the XP calculation process. XP gained from normal races is then applied to a rider in an optimum fashion.
Riders may only gain 1 level per season, with the exception of Level 1 riders who are able to reach level 3.
Any stat increases gained during the 2015 season will be applied after the season ends, ready for the 2016 DB.
The other form of stat increases is training. Prices are not finalised yet, but will be more expensive than last year, particularly at the top end. There will also be restrictions on the amount of training a team can do each year.
Eligibility for Training:
- Only riders born in 1985 or later are able to be trained
- Only riders who are 'maxed out' - i.e. their xp is 4.100 - are able to be trained
- If a rider only maxed out during the 2014 season, then he is not eligible to be trained - as his stats have already improved inbetween the 2014 and 2015 seasons. Similarly, newly added riders to the DB, or riders whose stats have been improved, cannot be trained.
Stat Decreases
Also in the statgains file are the decreases that older riders will receive at the end of the season. Riders born in 1983 will receive their first decrease this time around.
Rankings
Unchanged from last season. See them here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0wvaqdxermf...s.xls?dl=0
When there is a tie in the Points or KoM competitions, points are shared. e.g. for TdF KoM 2nd place gets 50 pts and 3rd place gets 35 pts. If 2nd and 3rd are tied on points, they will each get 42 pts. As you can see, shared pts are rounded down - the exception is when the shared pts are less than 1, when it is then rounded up to 1 instead.
Race Eligiblity
PCT teams in C2 races:
- Rider OVL is less than 72 (72.00 is too high)
- Mo/Hl/TT/Cb/Sp stat is no higher than 77
Note: Level 1, 2 and 3 riders may ride C2 if they have an AVG above 72 - but not if their best stat is higher than 77.
PT teams in HC races:
Listed below is the maximum stat that a PT rider can have and take part.
OVL 77
MO 77
HL 77
TT 77
CB 76
SP 79
Team Sizes
PT and PCT teams have a minimum team size of 20 riders and a maximum size of 30 riders.
CT teams have a minimum team size of 15 rider and a maximum size of 20 riders.
These counts include Loaned in riders, but do not include Loaned out riders. Stagiares count as half a rider.
The team size for all teams in all races is 8 riders. There is a minimum of 6 riders for each race. If you cannot field at least 6 riders, you will not be allowed to take part in the race.
The only exceptions are Chrono des Herbiers, Isle of Man ITT and Windhoek ITT, which have a rider limit of 3 riders per team. Also Duo Differdange, which is for just 2 riders per team.
Salary Caps
PT: 3,500,000
PCT: 2,500,000
CT: 1,200,000
Each team has a loan cap of 200,000. The loan cap will be explained within the Transfer rules.
Wildcards (PCT>PT)
This year there will be 2 wildcard slots for PCT teams in all PT races - not just Grand Tours and Monuments. There is a package cost for applying to a particular race category - you can apply to as many races as you like within a category, once you have bought the package. (Although there is an overall limit of 16 races to apply for)
Prices are the same as last year:
| Classics | | €30,000 | | Monuments | | €50,000 | | Classics and Monuments | | €70,000 | | Stage Races | | €70,000 | | Grand Tours | | €100,000 | | Grand Tours and Stage Races | | €150,000 | | All PT Races | | €200,000 |
Points scored by PCT teams in PT races does not count towards the PCT standings, and the races do not cost any race days. Race clash rules do apply though.
Priority for Grand Tour wildcards goes to teams who have not previously ridden a GT.
Wildcards (CT>HC)
After PT teams have been assigned a HC race band, there will be a small number of spaces available in 1 or 2 of the bands. It will be possible for CT teams to apply for a wildcard to an individual race within those spaces.
This will not cost any money, but will cost race days - and will come out of the 60 race days CT teams have available for C1 or C2 races. Rankings points earned will count towards the CT standings. (But may be hard to come by!)
Edited by SportingNonsense on 02-05-2015 17:22
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 02-05-2015 17:20
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Learned quite a bit here. Will read again to process it all, though 
I think this is meant to be riders instead of races?
The team size for all teams in all races is 8 riders. There is a minimum of 6 riders for each race. If you cannot field at least 6 races, you will not be allowed to take part in the race.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 02-05-2015 18:44
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One point I would like to raise regarding the training, CT teams can do almost nothing to raise a lvl 4 rider, since the HC races will be very limited and it's only 0,5 per race day. WT teams on the other hand can train everything reasonably well with the 1 point with a full band of HC races to choose from. And PCT teams can probably raise a rider on any level with good race selection.
So my suggestion would be to give C1/C2HC a small amount of lvl 4 experience as well.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Atlantius |
Posted on 02-05-2015 18:55
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Time to start calculating a bit for talents. Also I like that we can now enter 8 riders into races. Should help a bit finding the balance between performing and developing.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 02-05-2015 19:24
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Ollfardh wrote:
One point I would like to raise regarding the training, CT teams can do almost nothing to raise a lvl 4 rider, since the HC races will be very limited and it's only 0,5 per race day. WT teams on the other hand can train everything reasonably well with the 1 point with a full band of HC races to choose from. And PCT teams can probably raise a rider on any level with good race selection.
So my suggestion would be to give C1/C2HC a small amount of lvl 4 experience as well.
Either that or nerf the lower level riders in HC races, which would be more plausible I think.
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| Heine |
Posted on 02-05-2015 19:31
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Harsh HC-limits, a question regarding those though. If it is a hilly classic, can you let a rider with a higher Mon race?
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 02-05-2015 19:36
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@Ollfardh PT can't do Level 1. Maxing does tend to require PT, but not sure I want to change that.
@BBL No idea what you are trying to say
@Heine No. Riders only eligible for a race if they fit all the criteria.
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| Heine |
Posted on 02-05-2015 19:46
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Means I got a total of 7 HC-eligable guys, one of those are Pozzato :-p
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 02-05-2015 19:53
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PT can't complete lvl 1, but their progress is 1 point for 20 rd (+ Avenir most likely), while CT on lvl can only do 0,5 with very limited HC race days. Shouldn't this be more equal?
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 02-05-2015 19:58
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It's kinda irrelevant that PT teams 'can' get up to 40xp at level 1, because the reality is that they will always look to loan the rider out. That is equal to what CT teams will need to do if they want to get their level 4 rider maxed.
It's what makes loans an important part of transfers.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 02-05-2015 23:40
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Yeah loaning is a crucial part of training riders up to level 4 and personally I wouldn't want that to change. As things stand the experience for level 4 riders that can be gained in HC races or for level 2 riders in PT races is only enough to tip a rider from say 4.90/2.60 into max or the low level 3.
Edited by CountArach on 02-05-2015 23:40
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 03-05-2015 04:41
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Thanks for that info...cleared up a few things I was confused about  also when does the transfer season open??
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| CountArach |
Posted on 03-05-2015 04:47
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Jakstar22 wrote:
Thanks for that info...cleared up a few things I was confused about also when does the transfer season open??
A question that is never good to ask When everything is done and it is time.
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 03-05-2015 04:48
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CountArach wrote:
Jakstar22 wrote:
Thanks for that info...cleared up a few things I was confused about also when does the transfer season open??
A question that is never good to ask When everything is done and it is time.
Fair enough haha
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| SotD |
Posted on 23-05-2015 11:45
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I have a small question as to how the 0.5 race days should be counted. Are they rounded up, like everything else?
I have Zhihui Jiang assigned as a stagiare with 15 racedays. He is currently on 2.57.
If I race him:
Tour de l'Avenir (20)
Baltic Chain Tour (12,5)
Vuelta a Colombia (6)
GP Liechtenstein (2)
Praha - Karlovy Vary - Praha (2)
He totally up to 2.995. Does that mean he will increase a level? If not I don't really want to use him in the races except for Tour de l'Avenir.
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| SotD |
Posted on 24-05-2015 08:42
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SotD wrote:
I have a small question as to how the 0.5 race days should be counted. Are they rounded up, like everything else?
I have Zhihui Jiang assigned as a stagiare with 15 racedays. He is currently on 2.57.
If I race him:
Tour de l'Avenir (20)
Baltic Chain Tour (12,5)
Vuelta a Colombia (6)
GP Liechtenstein (2)
Praha - Karlovy Vary - Praha (2)
He totally up to 2.995. Does that mean he will increase a level? If not I don't really want to use him in the races except for Tour de l'Avenir.
I'll just up this, as it is the last thing I need to know to complete the planner.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 24-05-2015 09:27
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XP gets rounded down, so that would leave him on 2.99
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| SotD |
Posted on 24-05-2015 09:34
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SportingNonsense wrote:
XP gets rounded down, so that would leave him on 2.99
Okay, damn.
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