Riders choosing team for next season.
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j0nne |
Posted on 05-04-2015 12:48
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Hey guys! Quick question:
What factors in to a riders decision-making regarding his team for next season?
Salary
Dyn_Teams (fkIDdivision)
Anything else?
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j0nne |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:21
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Nobody knows?  |
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j0nne |
Posted on 05-04-2015 19:07
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Am I being unclear or is it simply a tough question? |
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matt17br |
Posted on 05-04-2015 19:10
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Keep calm, just wait a few hours and you'll get an answer most likely, especially today that is Easter and most of the members are busy 
Anyway, iirc dyn_transfers_precontact should be the table where you can see how a rider is likely to join a team, under fkid_orientation. The factors should be the ones you posted but you can't go wrong seeing that column
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Posted on 05-04-2015 19:10
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You just need some PATIENCE
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j0nne |
Posted on 05-04-2015 21:00
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TheManxMissile wrote:
You just need some PATIENCE
Patience ain't gonna get me anywhere.. Thanks for the advice though.. <3 |
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j0nne |
Posted on 05-04-2015 21:06
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matt17br wrote:
Keep calm, just wait a few hours and you'll get an answer most likely, especially today that is Easter and most of the members are busy
Anyway, iirc dyn_transfers_precontact should be the table where you can see how a rider is likely to join a team, under fkid_orientation. The factors should be the ones you posted but you can't go wrong seeing that column 
Thanks Matt!
What exactly does the fkIDorientation indicate? |
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Posted on 05-04-2015 21:06
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I'd say nationality could also be an influence. If a Belgian rider search for a team, a Belgian team might get a boost over a German one.
Not entirely sure and haven't tested this, though.
But yeah, considering today was both Easter and RvV, I think you should've been more patient, yes. People don't appreciate it if you bump a topic twice in a couple of hours
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matt17br |
Posted on 05-04-2015 21:32
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Jesleyh wrote:
I'd say nationality could also be an influence. If a Belgian rider search for a team, a Belgian team might get a boost over a German one.
Pff, I've seen froome signing with BigMat, not quite an English team tbf 
@jonne,it indicates how a rider is likely to sign with the team which contacted him. Higher the number, the more likely that rider will sign for that team.
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j0nne |
Posted on 05-04-2015 23:04
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Ohh, very useful! Thanks a lot Matt!  |
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j0nne |
Posted on 06-04-2015 16:17
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Okay, I've done some testing on the matter. I tried changing fkIDdivision to GS1, and to my surprise it seems that riders are just as unwilling to sign my contracts as they were at GS2. And I even offer them quite good salaries.
When I managed Tinkoff-Saxo all of my offers were accepted. AND I didn't offer them a penni more than they thought they were worth.
So, I think we can conclude that more than fkIDdivision and the salary itself plays a role in this matter..
Could it be something with the rankings?
Any help is appreciated!
Edited by j0nne on 06-04-2015 16:23
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j0nne |
Posted on 06-04-2015 20:28
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Just tested if the Rankings plays a part. Apparently it doesn't.. |
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j0nne |
Posted on 11-05-2016 23:56
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After doing some more testing it seems like I've found the deciding factor for riders choosing one team over another.
dyn_teams: value_f_current_evaluation
The higher the value, the more likely it is that a rider will join your team.
Note: This value is automatically calculated every month, so if you edit it the 21th of June, to make your team more attractive, you'll need to re-edit it the first of Juli in order for your team to stay attractive for new riders to join up.
Edited by j0nne on 12-05-2016 15:04
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