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Steyr
Hey,

I'm playing the tdf right now, but something weird is happening in the sprints; the main sprint teams don't care for sprinting. They don't chase breakaways (or if they do, they just stop chasing in the last 20 K), also they don't form any trains. With 5 k to go, guys like Cavendish, Kittel and Greipel are sitting in 20-30 position, usually without any teammates around. I'm the only team who will make a train and the second rank sprinters, like Kristoff or Bouhanni, get in my sprinters wheel and often beat me on the line. The big guys will finish top10 if lucky. Anyone is familiar with this?
 
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Steyr
Also GC riders often tend to take part in the mass sprints.
 
Steyr
Whoops, I posted this in PCM12, but i'm playing '13!
 
iametixx
Is this happening in any sprints?
 
matt17br
Ha, well, you're now into the worst thing in the world. You can't do anything against it... It is... It is... The terrible ruin of the pcms... The breakaways' fucked up AI!! The breakaways will:
Win with the minimum effort unless you're in, and if you're in you will be dropped because the other riders repeatedly attack you until they accomplish their only objective.
In the meanwhile, the pack won't do absolutely nothing to catch them, and this especially happens i the continental races, where every breakaway is a win. The bunch will just sit in the first kms (unless you try to get into a break because in that case they'll relay at 80 km/h each. On the other side they will allow some strong riders to attack. After that they got a decent gap, they start to relay but they will sit at 15 kms to go and you will have to relay on dot 90+ with all your team to catch them, that, obviously, will still have a looooot of energy that they saved sometime in the race...
Of course you won't catch them.

About the sprints, well, it's a less common issue, but it happens as well. After the breakaways, the sprints are the most fucked part of pcm.

You can't fix any of these, you'll have to rely on cyanide that in the last months partly solved the TTTs gameplay and even more partly, the blocks, another game breaking aspect. Hopefully they'll get everything sorted in the next releases.
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Steyr
iametixx wrote:
Is this happening in any sprints?


Yes, although I believe it was much less common when I played a couple of months ago. It happened in the last 7 or 8 sprint stages I played last days. I even replayed some stages a couple of times to see if was just a fluke, but it happened all the time. It happened also when I played Champs-Élysées as single stage. One time I even started chasing the breakaway from the start. I caught them with 20 or 30 km left. But then the whole bunch just acted like it was a neutralized stage, riding to the lineat 25 km/h. And still no trains were formed.
Edited by Steyr on 07-03-2015 16:51
 
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I'm not sure, but I think this problem might be caused by the Passive AI in Multiplayer setting, which for some reason also occurred in Single Player for sometimes. If it's unticked already I'm out of ideas though.
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