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Suggestions: New Riders for ManGame
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 13-08-2013 09:41
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Time to start a thread to gather new rider options for the next season, to fill the transfers free agency. Any rider who has emerged in the last year, or perhaps theres a nationality of rider you want for your team, which is short of riders at the moment.
When posting a rider, please include a link to their page on CQ and/or ProCyclingStats. A date of birth and nationality are handy too - as well as some words on what the rider is good at. Could even suggest some stats for them! (either current stats, or future stats once maxed)
I won't add any rider born in 1995 or later. There's not a lot to go on from Junior races about a rider's ability. There were a couple of notable 1994 riders on my list last year who I decided against (one of whom is a popular German, the other an Aussie sprinter), and I think that worked out well as certainly the German will end up with better stats now!
Edited by SportingNonsense on 14-08-2013 18:10
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 13-08-2013 10:10
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I'll let mr.Cio take care of the famous german.  I'll do the aussie sprinter then.
Name:  Caleb Ewan
Date of Birth: 11/09/1994
CQ/PCS Link: https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider....?id=168753
Ewan is a sprinter, with a good number of win's in the U23 circle and on some .2 race's. He's been pinpointed as the next Cavendish by some, the next McEwen by otheres, but he has something that Cav and Mcewen didn't have, a hill ability, demonstrated where he won the GP Palio del Recioto and La Côte Picarde. So, overall a good sprinter (maybe 70/71 SP with 72 ACC with 68/69/70 Hil) plus good secondary stats with a high potential? |
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| Heine |
Posted on 13-08-2013 10:42
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Gogo Silvio! (as Miguel said, I think we should let Cio post about him :-p) I'm looking forward to overpaying for you in a battle with Puma ;-)
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 13-08-2013 10:46
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SN, just a quick doubt. If there's a rider that's already in the DB, and his a free agent and if we post about it here, is there a way if that rider can get a stat overhaul? |
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| PhilipBusch |
Posted on 13-08-2013 10:58
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That hill stat is way too high for Ewan. He is a traditional sprinter, but with the ability to survive some hills. And it's not like he is a better hill rider now than Cavendish. He is better for his age and has clearly more potential though. |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 13-08-2013 11:44
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Here are a few off the top of my head:
| Name: | Fredrik Ludvigsson | | DOB: | 28/04/1994 | | Country: | Sweden | | PCstats: | Link | | CQ Ranking: | Link |
Most of you have probably heard of him. He's only a first year pro, but has had quite an amazing season. Still too early to say what kind of rider he'll become, but time trials have been his strongest area this season.
The Boucle de l'Artois stage win where he crushed everyone, including Jasha Sütterlin, and the 2nd place on Tour of Estonia's prologue and in the overall - ahead of a.o. Schumacher and Rebellin - are some of his more notable results.
He also handles short hills quite well and isn't at all bad in a sprint.
| Name: | Heiner Rodrigo Parra Bustamante | | DOB: | 09/10/1991 | | Country: | Colombia | | PCstats: | Link | | CQ Ranking: | Link |
Yet another young, upcoming Colombian climber - as if they didn't have enough of them already
He won the toughest mountain stage in the Ronde de l'Isard with a good gap over countryman Chamorro. Aside from that, his biggest result is a 5th place overall in Tour d'Alsace, where he was 2nd behind a certain German on the altitude finish on Le Markstein.
| Name: | Sebastian Henao | | DOB: | 05/08/1993 | | Country: | Colombia | | PCstats: | Link | | CQ Ranking: | Link |
I'm no expert when it comes to this guy, but he's expected to join his cousin Sergio at Sky next season in real life.
Results-wise, there's not a lot to go on, but 15th overall at Vuelta a Colombia is no mean feat. I've read that he's more of a pure climber than his cousin, and it remains to be seen if he's as talented.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 13-08-2013 12:29
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As it happens I was going through various websites the other day looking for young riders so I will have a fairly decent list for you in the next couple of days. I'm going to try to fill out some more overlooked countries.
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| DubbelDekker |
Posted on 13-08-2013 12:31
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Not exactly on-topic, but this is probably still the best place to post this:
Marco Minnard (Team Gazelle) is actually called Marco Minnaard in real life. https://www.cqrank...erid=19312
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 13-08-2013 13:37
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Miguel98 wrote:
SN, just a quick doubt. If there's a rider that's already in the DB, and his a free agent and if we post about it here, is there a way if that rider can get a stat overhaul?
Yes, post them too. Treat them as if they weren't in - but include the rider id from the db.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 13-08-2013 17:15
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PhilipBusch wrote:
That hill stat is way too high for Ewan. He is a traditional sprinter, but with the ability to survive some hills. And it's not like he is a better hill rider now than Cavendish. He is better for his age and has clearly more potential though.
The ManGame doesn't work like a normal PCM career though. We work with pre-defined training plans, not with automatically set stat limits.
Even with potential 7, no sprinter can ever increase his hill stat by more than 3.
Ewan indeed deserves high 60's imo, and he should definitely be able to reach 70+ throughout his career.
The obvious guy first, thanks for leaving that up to me
| Name: | Silvio Herklotz | | DOB: | 06/05/1994 | | Country: | Germany | | PCstats: | Link | | CQ Ranking: | Link |
If you need a potential future Cunego from this age group, he'd be it. 
Do I need to point out results? 
Putting 16 seconds into earlier mentioned Parra Bustamente and Jan Hirt on the Ballon d'Alsace, two of the very best mountain riders in U23 and both more than two years older than him.
Only beaten by Sinkewitz and Valjavec on a 3k @ 8% hill in Istrian Spring Trophy.
Second to Ewan in Palio del Recioto from a 9-rider group sprint after crashing very hard on last downhill.
Only CT rider (and one from 10 non-WT riders) to finish in the front group of Bayern Rundfahrt's queen stage.
7th in the group sprint at the German RR, beating Martens, Burghardt and Wegmann.
So in terms of stats:
Probably pretty equal MO and HIL stats. I always considered him to be more of a puncheur, but that Alsace performance was very impressive.
Luckily, our training system allows him to develop either way.
(with the way hill and stage race training are for potential 7 riders, maybe a bit higher MO than HIL as you get 2 points more HIL from puncheur training than MO from stage race or climber training)
He was a very good TTer at Junior level, but he is yet to transport that to the professional level. His prologues remain very good though, 2nd in Istria, 7th in Thüringen (s.t. with van Baarle and Sütterlin).
I expect him to regain his TT strenght eventually, but that's only my prediction.
Very decent sprint. Thereabouts in mass sprints, and very competitive in select groups.
Good downhill. He was a full-time crosser this winter, and he likes to attack away in downhills with success.
Very high fighter stat. Although he's often a favourite, he doesn't like to wait for selections to happen. Attacks from 40k out are normal for him, and he surprised the sprinter teams here and there with late attacks as well.
Impressive fact: he won three consecutive stages of the 2012 Giro della Lunigiana solo after being in the breakaway.
High RES because of his great solo efforts. Nearly held off everyone in Thüringen after holding a steady advantage of a minute 30 for 60 kilometres first together with Foliforov, then alone all the way up the final mountain.
Nothing special about his STA or REC can be concluded from his results.
Exact stat suggestions are obviously very prone to bias.
Plus SN knows how to translate that description and his own impressions into realistic present and future stats the best.
| Name: | Willi Willwohl | | DOB: | 31/08/1994 | | Country: | Germany | | PCstats: | Link | | CQ Ranking: | Link |
Next upcoming German sprinter. Won three consecutive stages in Tour de Berlin, though arguably mostly against German opposition.
Broke his arm at 09/06 and won a stage plus finished second once just six weeks later in Dookola Mazowsza, beating guys like Smolen and Janiaczyk.
Could definitely end up in the 78-80 region in SP.
(fun fact: his last name means "probably wants ..." or "it seems like he wants ...". Fits good with Mehr-Wenige (who still misses an r btw) .
| Name: | Marcel Meisen (id 537) | | PCstats: | Link | | CQ Ranking: | Link |
Needs a hill and sprint update.
8th twice in the most decisive Baloise Tour of Belgium stages. Ahead of Arashiro, Lagutin, Terpstra, Dumoulin... in the selective stage LuLu won.
Won sprint stages against Downing last year and Fonseca this year, plus the final stage in Alsace after two steep hills, though mainly against U23 competition.
4th in the hard (rainy and hilly) German RR this year, ahead of Voss and Martens.
I'd say 71-73 for both SP and HIL.
| Name: Phil Bauhaus | | DOB: | 08/07/1994 | | Country: | Germany | | PCstats: | Link | | CQ Ranking: | Link |
Quite a good sprinter. Close to Willwohl twice in Berlin.
| Name: | Maximilian Werda | | DOB: | 05/10/1991 | | Country: | Germany | | PCstats: | Link | | CQ Ranking: | Link |
Decent TTer. Third in Eschborn-Frankfurt U23 from a 4-man group with Herklotz even working for him, and the only rider even remotely close to Herklotz in the hilly German U23 RR two minutes ahead of the third guy.
Rider name correction:
ID 2124: Johannes Frohlinger -> Johannes Fröhlinger
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 13-08-2013 17:42
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Don't forget that i started all the Herklotz-hype here when i suggested him last year before SN set the age limit.
About Maximilian Werda: he's not that good in TTs as Cio says (or at least how i understand it). He's not bad, though, so i'd see him as a MG-rider with a good hill and decent backup stats. A bit like Duggan from my team maybe.
I'll post some more riders, mostly German, lateron.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 13-08-2013 17:57
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Name: Frederico Figueiredo
Country: Portugal
Date of Birth: 25/01/1991
PCS: Link
CQ Ranking: Link
Frederico is pure climber, altough his TT is not bad, his not great either, he's average. Winner of the KOTM jersey in the Vuelta a La Comunidad de Madrid U23 finishing 15th on that race. So pure climber, with an average TT, who likes more long climbs than short and explosive ones and likes to attack.
Name: David Rodrigues
Country: Portugal
Date of Birth: 10/07/1991
PCS: Link
CQ Ranking: Link
Another pure climber, another that likes more long climbs than short, explosive ones. He's an average TT'er, much like Frederico, and he also likes to attack from long range. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 13-08-2013 18:40
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Name: Yamato Shirota
Country Japan
Date of Birth: 25th November 1994
PSC:Link
CQ: Link
Not much is really known about his style of riding going by his results, but I've heard that he is quite the talent, and was the youngest rider competing in the entire pro peloton last year, I believe. Just in terms of having variety, I'd love to have another talented Japanese Climber/Puncheur in the db, and I think he's got a very small frame so I think its possible he is in real life anyway 
Name: Masatoshi Oba
Country: Japan
Date of Birth: 2nd July 1988
PCS: Link
He seems to be a good TT rider. He won the Japanese Title this year, and has some good results in TT's and prologues as well. Other than that He doesn't seem to be anything special.
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I might post some more later too, if thats alright.
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| aidanvn13 |
Posted on 13-08-2013 19:40
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Name: Johann van Zyl
Nationality:  South Africa
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He's one of South Africa's biggest up and coming talents. He's a real powerhouse. To put his potential into context, throughout junior ranks him and Louis Meintjies (check the MG db if you don't know him) always battled out national champs and other events. They were a very evenly matched duo. However, over the recent years van Zyl has proven himself to be more of a 'diesel engine' than a climber. He is extremely strong on flats, but can also haul himself over hills, can ride a decent TT and can also negotiate cobbles. He's not a climber, but he is able to stick with a breakaway if need be. Johann is able to pull the peleton by himself for a good 100km.
Spoiler FL 72; MO 62; HIL 68; FTR 73; COB 65; RES 70; TT 66; SPR 60; ACC 64 Name: Songezo Jim
Nationality: South Africa
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You might know his story. He only learnt to ride a bike at age 14. He comes from a very humble background, but never let his conditions get the better of him. His genetics prove that he has the potential to be a strong bike rider, but to be honest, I don't think he'll be a top-tier climber. He might end up at about 75MO.
Spoiler FL 64; MO 69; HIL 66; FTR 70; COB 51; RES 65; TT 60; SPR 58; ACC 63 Name: Merhawi Kudus
Nationality:  Eritrea
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Another African talent. He's still very young, but last season he won a stage and lead the Tour of Rwanda for 2 stages after going on a long solo break in a mountain stage. He's a real GC contender and has recently proven his talent in Europe while riding for Bretagne. Expect him to land a big contract for next season.
Spoiler FL 63; MO 72; HIL 72; FTR 67; COB 51; RES 70; TT 63; SPR 60; ACC 68 Name: Till Drobisch
Nationality:  Namibia
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Although his palmares doesn't seen impressive, Till has been very impressive in local races as well as various amateur races. He just needs some time to settle into professional racing. He is the Namibian TT and RR champion. He is a very strong TTer and has a big engine. Till is a very capable climber, but is definitely no mountain goat. The afternoon before the Tour de Romandie there was a prologue for amateurs, on the exact same course as for the pro's, which he ended up winning. His time was also faster than some of the pros in the Romandie TT!
Spoiler FL 66; MO 64; HIL 65; FTR 63; COB 54; RES 66; TT 67; SPR60 ; ACC 65
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| Heine |
Posted on 13-08-2013 20:07
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Herklotz will ruin me next year...
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| cio93 |
Posted on 13-08-2013 20:38
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Heine wrote:
Herklotz will ruin me next year...
I will ruin you forever if Herklotz ruins you
This will require some serious PM talk 
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| Bushwackers |
Posted on 13-08-2013 21:31
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Name: Dayer Quintana
DOB: 10/08/1992
Nationality: Colombia
PCstats: https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/...tana_Rojas
I honestly don't know anything about him but I think he should be in it as he's in the ProTour next year. I think he's just a good climber, don't know much else.
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| Bushwackers |
Posted on 13-08-2013 22:41
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Also some Swiss guys:
Name: Stefan Küng
DOB: 16/11/1993
Nationality: Swiss
PCstats: https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/...tefan-Kung
He's a big guy, Swiss U23 TT champ this year, but apparently he can climb well too because he lists that as his strength on the BMC site. Probably just hills because he really is huge (193cm/84kg). Looks like he can sprint too, he beat Herklotz in a small group sprint here: https://www.procyclingstats.com/race.p...id=118234
Name: Simon Pellaud
DOB: 6/11/1992
Nationality: Swiss
Database ID: 1154
PCstats: https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/...on_Pellaud
Current Swiss U23 Road champion. Not familiar with the course, but based on the time splits I'd guess its hilly. He also had decent results in other hilly pro races. He's already in the DB but I'd suggest a stat increase in his Hill stat, maybe take down his TT because I don't see any great TT results.
Name: Tom Bohli
DOB: 17/01/1994
Nationality: Swiss
PCstats: [url]https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider.php?id=158010
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Looks like another big engine guy. Was Swiss junior RR and TT champion last year, as well as pursuit world champion. 5th in the U23 Swiss TT this year, and took a 4th in a hilly stage of the Ronde de l'Islard.
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 13-08-2013 22:55
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hmm... for some reason I can reply but can't quote, anyway, Bushwackers I hate to break it to you but i'm fairly sure Stefan Küng is the correct spellilng of a rider on my team this year as it's the same date of birth and name, just with a normal u.
btw his ID in the DB is 3114 and Simon Pelaud's is 1154.
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 13-08-2013 22:59
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Since we don't have any Angolan riders in the game it could be interesting to add a few of them which have arose this season in portuguese races. They're all pretty weak though. In Volta ao Algarve the Angolan national team completely DNF'd by stage 2, only Igor Silva could finish the race So maybe reasonable FLAT/FIGHTER stats for Igor and meagre stats for Dario and Walter.
Name: Igor Silva
DOB: 22/10/1984
Nationality: 
CQ: https://www.cqrank...derid=4020
PCStats: https://www.procyc...erto_Silva
Name: Walter Silva
DOB: 05/08/1985
Nationality:
CQ: https://www.cqrank...derid=5654
PCStats: https://www.procyc...r_Da_Silva
Name: Dario Antonio
DOB: 22/10/1992
Nationality:
CQ: https://www.cqrank...erid=20335
PCStats: https://www.procyc...io_Antonio
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