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HELP...After a year I findout the game has more commands.
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| Matrix |
Posted on 03-08-2013 03:52
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Ok, I was watching a video on youtube and saw the guy right click on the screen...and green commands popped up!!!!!
In the time I have played I never had a clue they existed. So, I jumped on PCM 13, and I have the same green commands. This whole time I have played and thought the ONLY way to play was the left side of the screen commands. So, I won or lost races only knowing about them.
Why I need help, is I am still not sure how to work the commands. I know you have protect: but how do you set it to protect a rider? My example below:
You have riders: 1 2 3 4 Now I want to protect rider "3" with the other 3 riders. How do you do that?
Hold at a spot I am guessing is almost the same as hold position on the left menu. Or is it different?
Time gap, I would guess if you have a break, it is a fast way to see the gap?
In other words, can someone give me a run down of what the commands do, or a link that explains it?
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 03-08-2013 04:02
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You can only protect 1 rider with 1 other rider. You do this by first selecting the rider you want to be the protector, and then right click on the leader you want to be protecting and click the little protect button. You can also just right click the panel of the rider you want to protect I believe, as its harder to click the rider in the peloton and doesn't force you to slow down the race if its being sped up.
There is a cheat to get around this, to have multiple riders protecting 1 rider. First have 1 rider protecting your leader. Make the protector go and get bottles and as this happens get another rider to start protecting your leader. Once the first protector stops delivering bottles you will have 2 protectors. Then to get 3 protectors you must send both protectors back to get bottles and have a new rider protect your leader and again you'll eventually have 3 protectors.
And so on.
The hold spot is different, f.e. if you were Contador you could click on Froome and select hold spot and he'd stay near Contador. I prefer the regular hold position though 
Time gap I have actually never used. I thought it was to measure the difference in GC though, so you know exactly how much time you need.
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 03-08-2013 04:14
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You can only have one rider protecting each rider, 1 protects 3 then 2 can't. Rider 1 would use slightly more energy and rider 3 would use slightly less.
Time gap you would need to use I on one rider then on another, it will then show the gap between them on the bottom of the screen with the other time gaps. Mainly useful when it's split into multiple groups e.g. On a mountain finish and you are after a particular gap like between 1st and second in young riders jersey. Or if there are groups between you and say the race leader. Could slso be useful if you're chasing the early break and there's a mid stage break in between.
I've never figured out what the take position dot like button does.
I think the last one to explain ( second one in) is follow/ follow attack. Follow is mainly used for sprint trains, follow attack can be useful either using a rider as a springboard for an attack e.g. Follow an attack then attack yourself to get into or bridge across to the break early in the stage or the same principle at KOM points, or could just follow the attack to stay with a rider whose after the KOM points when you're not. If you follow an attack you save a little bit of finery compared to attacking.
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| Matrix |
Posted on 03-08-2013 04:30
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Thanks, after over a year playing...I had no idea  I never I guess right clicked the screen even on accident.
@valverde321 I will indeed try that trick for protection on a big climb stage.
Seems nobody uses the gap button...I dont see a point. The time gaps show at the bottom of the screen. I guess it makes it easier to view who is where perhaps. I'll try it a bit and see, then report back. Seeing none of us have a true idea.
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 03-08-2013 05:08
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I used it when playing as FDJ as I was solely aiming for white so I could set it on Pinot and Quintana to get the gap between them on climbs when there were riders between them, e.g. Quintana was in the second group and Pinot the 5th. It meant I could see the exact gap between the 2 of them and whether the jersey would change hands or not. It was on PCM12 but I'd imagine it works the same on 13.
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 03-08-2013 06:30
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sammyt93 wrote:
I used it when playing as FDJ as I was solely aiming for white so I could set it on Pinot and Quintana to get the gap between them on climbs when there were riders between them, e.g. Quintana was in the second group and Pinot the 5th. It meant I could see the exact gap between the 2 of them and whether the jersey would change hands or not. It was on PCM12 but I'd imagine it works the same on 13.
It works in exactly the same way. It measures the time gap from rider to another.
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 03-08-2013 10:14
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I use the take position button quite often.
If you use it on a rider in front of you, he'll move up to that rider's position without wasting too much energy. If you use it on a rider behind you, he'll drop back behind that rider. It's quite useful. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 03-08-2013 10:26
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I have the feeling the 'take position' button doesn't take me exactly where I want, but rather some bike lenghts behind.
It might be than I'm just too reluctant to change my successful strategies even though there could a better alternative, but the few times I tried it out, it didn't satisfy me.
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| Lachi |
Posted on 03-08-2013 13:02
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It's not like you could not read about the features of the game.
This game comes with a manual and the there is the online guide. |
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| the_hoyle |
Posted on 03-08-2013 13:11
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Lachi wrote:
It's not like you could not read about the features of the game.
This game comes with a manual and the there is the online guide.
yeah... but who reads the manual
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| Matrix |
Posted on 03-08-2013 20:53
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the_hoyle wrote:
Lachi wrote:
It's not like you could not read about the features of the game.
This game comes with a manual and the there is the online guide.
yeah... but who reads the manual
Not I, saw how the game worked and used only the left side menu. Won the Giro, TDF, Tour de Swiss and Tour of Calafornia with only that menu.
Side not if your fast, I managed to send 4 riders for water who where protecting my leader. And ended up with a train of 6 riders, my main GC rider last...being protected by 5 others. I used my other 2 riders to attack off and on to increase speed. I won the stage and am takingba 5.45m lead into the final week of the Vualta. Not too bad.
You just have to be very fast to send most of your team for water to get that many riders protecting. But I tried it with Sky and nobody is close. Contador is my biggest threat and he is 1.35 behind my team. With the fast click protect, Porte, Wiggins, Uran and others of Sky are 2-4th, Contador is sitting in 5th 1.35 behind Uran who is in 4th. I kinda like that trick all my guys got huge time. Because nobody could keep up our tempo. I had Wiggins in front at 80%, then 3-5% drops back to Froome who till the final climb used only 60%. He flew off the front with 6km to go and nodody touched that exscape...Contador bonked trying. It was a very fun race.
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| Matrix |
Posted on 03-08-2013 21:19
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the_hoyle wrote:
Lachi wrote:
It's not like you could not read about the features of the game.
This game comes with a manual and the there is the online guide.
yeah... but who reads the manual
Not I, saw how the game worked and used only the left side menu. Won the Giro, TDF, Tour de Swiss and Tour of Calafornia with only that menu.
Side not if your fast, I managed to send 4 riders for water who where protecting my leader. And ended up with a train of 6 riders, my main GC rider last...being protected by 5 others. I used my other 2 riders to attack off and on to increase speed. I won the stage and am takingba 5.45m lead into the final week of the Vualta. Not too bad.
You just have to be very fast to send most of your team for water to get that many riders protecting. But I tried it with Sky and nobody is close. Contador is my biggest threat and he is 1.35 behind my team. With the fast click protect, Porte, Wiggins, Uran and others of Sky are 2-4th, Contador is sitting in 5th 1.35 behind Uran who is in 4th. I kinda like that trick all my guys got huge time. Because nobody could keep up our tempo. I had Wiggins in front at 80%, then 3-5% drops back to Froome who till the final climb used only 60%. He flew off the front with 6km to go and nodody touched that exscape...Contador bonked trying. It was a very fun race.
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| Lachi |
Posted on 04-08-2013 02:02
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You cannot protect with more than one rider. The thing you are experiencing is just a graphical bug, which give no advantage. But at least you have all riders close to your leader like that. |
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 04-08-2013 02:03
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Lachi wrote:
You cannot protect with more than one rider. The thing you are experiencing is just a graphical bug, which give no advantage. But at least you have all riders close to your leader like that.
This is true. However, this can be helpful for the reasons he just mentioned, as well as coordinating mass attacks. Trust me, mass attacks can be quite useful.
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