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| atlanta |
Posted on 25-06-2013 20:37
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Seriously guys Contador same uphill better recovery than Froome, same Endurance even two lol. Id understand if Contador had same Mountain same Hill but worst stamina, that's his biggest weakness to Froome he cant finish the Attacks off. Also his acc makes him better aswell because it actually means something this year, ITT is all Froome has over Alberto. How? Just realised he is 1 extra in Resistance aswell lol this is hilarious.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 25-06-2013 20:39
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Are you complaining Contador is too good, or Froome is too good?
Also i'll say it now, Edmondson is overrated (yes i really dislike him) 
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 25-06-2013 20:41
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Gesink is overrated.
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| SweatyViking |
Posted on 25-06-2013 20:50
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Dennis Van Winden is a sprinter with some cobble and hill skills, and far from a TT specialist as he is in the DB.
Paul Martens needs a FL boost (72-73)
Edited by SweatyViking on 25-06-2013 20:51
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| SweatyViking |
Posted on 25-06-2013 20:52
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Francis Mourey is not a classics rider, he is a climber/puncheur. I have him at 74 MO and 73 HIL, with a decent recovery stat. |
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| SweatyViking |
Posted on 25-06-2013 20:55
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Maurits Lammertink needs a major overhaul. |
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| atlanta |
Posted on 25-06-2013 20:55
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Are you complaining Contador is too good, or Froome is too good?
Also i'll say it now, Edmondson is overrated (yes i really dislike him)
Im saying Froome is better than Contador he as shown that, he as more endurance at finishing the stages we don't no about recovery YET. But Contador should be 81 in mnt or 82 and move Froome to 83, be honest Froome 2013 is better uphill than Contador every meaningful stage he as come out on top. Froome may finish ahead in the rsults because of his ITT but that does not mean AC should be better on Res and End they should be equal on Res and 1 or 2 down on End. Im not being ungrateful the guys who done this I can honestly say thank you so much. I bought the game yday and BINGO I can do my carear on my first day of playing so I just was comparing these 2 as their the first guys I checked who is better, Thanks Guys.
Gesink is underrated for me I know Giro was poor but he should be 77 in each no way is Peraud as good uphill. Every carear I will up Schlecks stats just before the TDF starts, because this year is not to much diff to the past EXCEPT he usually has a classic result or two he peaks for Le Tour we all know that. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 25-06-2013 21:00
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atlanta wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Are you complaining Contador is too good, or Froome is too good?
Also i'll say it now, Edmondson is overrated (yes i really dislike him)
Im saying Froome is better than Contador he as shown that, he as more endurance
Show a stage/classic above 200 km where Froome was good
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| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 25-06-2013 21:00
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Couple of things I've changed:
Increases:
- TvG's Mountain should be equal/higher than Evans' after last years Tour. Put him on 78.
- Put Uran up to 79 Mountain, after all he did finish 2nd in a GT
- Talansky to 78 Mountain after an impressive Dauphiné, keeping up with Froome and Porte at times.
Decreases:
- Some people may not agree, but Boonen to 80 Cobbles. Hasn't done anything of note all year and is ageing. I know he is injured, but let him prove he still is as cood as Cancellara.
- Contador to 81 Mountain (No way he is equal to Froome.)
- Martin to 82 TT (Not 2 points better than any other rouleur in my eyes) |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 25-06-2013 21:01
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SweatyViking wrote:
Francis Mourey is not a classics rider, he is a climber/puncheur. I have him at 74 MO and 73 HIL, with a decent recovery stat.
He's quite good in the classics, actually. Winner of the gravel classic "hell of the west", Tro Bro Léon, earlier this year. Not to mention a very good cyclocross rider.
Before the Giro this year, that's the kind of rider he was known as. I'm still a little shocked about what he did in the Giro.
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| SweatyViking |
Posted on 25-06-2013 21:05
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
SweatyViking wrote:
Francis Mourey is not a classics rider, he is a climber/puncheur. I have him at 74 MO and 73 HIL, with a decent recovery stat.
He's quite good in the classics, actually. Winner of the gravel classic "hell of the west", Tro Bro Léon, earlier this year. Not to mention a very good cyclocross rider.
Before the Giro this year, that's the kind of rider he was known as. I'm still a little shocked about what he did in the Giro.
If he's that good at classics, why didn't he race in the major ones? |
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| atlanta |
Posted on 25-06-2013 21:07
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Spilak23 wrote:
atlanta wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Are you complaining Contador is too good, or Froome is too good?
Also i'll say it now, Edmondson is overrated (yes i really dislike him)
Im saying Froome is better than Contador he as shown that, he as more endurance
Show a stage/classic above 200 km where Froome was good
Take it you don't like Froome, no? I cant think of a 200 km+ stage but please don't tell me if any deserves extra END its Contador, Contador attacked in the CdD and Froome had the END to finish it off not Contador.
Also Hesjedal should have a stat backlash like Gesink, no? Gesink and Hesjedal great first week in the Giro, hell Gesink did not even fall on those wet hilly stages then Hesjadal craked hard and left the Giro just like Gesink did at the end but he did not crack like Hesjedal and his stats have not been touched and Gesink is 76 lol. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 25-06-2013 21:12
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atlanta wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
atlanta wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Are you complaining Contador is too good, or Froome is too good?
Also i'll say it now, Edmondson is overrated (yes i really dislike him)
Im saying Froome is better than Contador he as shown that, he as more endurance
Show a stage/classic above 200 km where Froome was good
Take it you don't like Froome, no? I cant think of a 200 km+ stage but please don't tell me if any deserves extra END its Contador, Contador attacked in the CdD and Froome had the END to finish it off not Contador.
You should first use the search function to see what endurance means before coming in here claiming Froome needs his upped.
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| atlanta |
Posted on 25-06-2013 21:14
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FroomeDog99 wrote:
Couple of things I've changed:
Increases:
- TvG's Mountain should be equal/higher than Evans' after last years Tour. Put him on 78.
- Put Uran up to 79 Mountain, after all he did finish 2nd in a GT
- Talansky to 78 Mountain after an impressive Dauphiné, keeping up with Froome and Porte at times.
Decreases:
- Some people may not agree, but Boonen to 80 Cobbles. Hasn't done anything of note all year and is ageing. I know he is injured, but let him prove he still is as cood as Cancellara.
- Contador to 81 Mountain (No way he is equal to Froome.)
- Martin to 82 TT (Not 2 points better than any other rouleur in my eyes)
I agree with a lot but no no and no lol about TJVG he was not as good as Porte uphill this year and about Evans his stats are like that because of the Giro he will decling and TJVG will get better. Putting TJVG up will make him be a 84 mountain GOAT lol in the future. TJVG got beat by Costa(Who does not have 78) in Suisse and he was not great uphill in Calli, it was a poor field and Acevedo beat him in the Mountain stage. |
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| atlanta |
Posted on 25-06-2013 21:19
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Spilak23 wrote:
atlanta wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
atlanta wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Are you complaining Contador is too good, or Froome is too good?
Also i'll say it now, Edmondson is overrated (yes i really dislike him)
Im saying Froome is better than Contador he as shown that, he as more endurance
Show a stage/classic above 200 km where Froome was good
Take it you don't like Froome, no? I cant think of a 200 km+ stage but please don't tell me if any deserves extra END its Contador, Contador attacked in the CdD and Froome had the END to finish it off not Contador.
You should first use the search function to see what endurance means before coming in here claiming Froome needs his upped.
Lol way to miss the point lol your ridicolous man I did no say Froome should be upped I said he should be upped compared to Contador(not an unreasonable thing to say), look at my first post I even said maybe keep them the same. As you keep not answering, why should Contador have better end and Res and equal uphill. I seriously cant wait for the TDF barring crashes everyone will no once for all lol
So if End don't really mean much ill put Cancellara down to 50 end and go win Roubaix ;ROLLEYES: |
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| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 25-06-2013 21:21
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atlanta wrote:
FroomeDog99 wrote:
Couple of things I've changed:
Increases:
- TJVG's Mountain should be equal/higher than Evans' after last years Tour. Put him on 78.
- Put Uran up to 79 Mountain, after all he did finish 2nd in a GT
- Talansky to 78 Mountain after an impressive Dauphiné, keeping up with Froome and Porte at times.
Decreases:
- Some people may not agree, but Boonen to 80 Cobbles. Hasn't done anything of note all year and is ageing. I know he is injured, but let him prove he still is as good as Cancellara.
- Contador to 81 Mountain (No way he is equal to Froome.)
- Martin to 82 TT (Not 2 points better than any other rouleur in my eyes)
I agree with a lot but no no and no lol about TJVG he was not as good as Porte uphill this year and about Evans his stats are like that because of the Giro he will decling and TJVG will get better. Putting TJVG up will make him be a 84 mountain GOAT lol in the future. TJVG got beat by Costa(Who does not have 78) in Suisse and he was not great uphill in Calli, it was a poor field and Acevedo beat him in the Mountain stage.
Put Porte and Costa up then, but TJVG is not worse than Evans. Last years Tour proved that, where he rode alot better than him in the later mountain stages. |
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 25-06-2013 21:22
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Is everyone just missing the point that Contador is weak without his steak, and Evans is just plain old?
"America. Show a nipple on television and the whole country goes ape-shit." -DubbelDekker
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| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 25-06-2013 21:22
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atlanta wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
atlanta wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
atlanta wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Are you complaining Contador is too good, or Froome is too good?
Also i'll say it now, Edmondson is overrated (yes i really dislike him)
Im saying Froome is better than Contador he as shown that, he as more endurance
Show a stage/classic above 200 km where Froome was good
Take it you don't like Froome, no? I cant think of a 200 km+ stage but please don't tell me if any deserves extra END its Contador, Contador attacked in the CdD and Froome had the END to finish it off not Contador.
You should first use the search function to see what endurance means before coming in here claiming Froome needs his upped.
Lol way to miss the point lol your ridicolous man I did no say Froome should be upped I said he should be upped compared to Contador(not an unreasonable thing to say), look at my first post I even said maybe keep them the same. As you keep not answering, why should Contador have better end and Res and equal uphill. I seriously cant wait for the TDF barring crashes everyone will no once for all lol
So if End don't really mean much ill put Cancellara down to 50 end and go win Roubaix ;ROLLEYES:
Read what Spilak said and do it. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 25-06-2013 21:24
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atlanta wrote:
Lol way to miss the point lol your ridicolous man I did no say Froome should be upped I said he should be upped compared to Contador(not an unreasonable thing to say), look at my first post I even said maybe keep them the same. As you keep not answering, why should Contador have better end and Res and equal uphill. I seriously cant wait for the TDF barring crashes everyone will no once for all lol
So if End don't really mean much ill put Cancellara down to 50 end and go win Roubaix ;ROLLEYES:
It's incredibly annoying to read what you write when you put lol after every 5 words.
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| ppanther |
Posted on 25-06-2013 21:33
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SweatyViking wrote:
Francis Mourey is not a classics rider, he is a climber/puncheur. I have him at 74 MO and 73 HIL, with a decent recovery stat.
Too much 73/71, or something like this. There are many riders, who finished a GT in TOP 30 in the last two years and have lower stats.
Edited by ppanther on 25-06-2013 21:33
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