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andrebaptista
Hi,

I would like to know if I am the only one against this "off-season" bans.

Chris Vandevelde, Tom Danielson, Levi Leipheimer, Scarponi,..., all this guys received 3-6 months bans, but most of them will be able to start racing at the beginning of the next season. Am I the only one who thinks this is stupid and unfair for the other riders?
Edited by andrebaptista on 13-12-2012 13:12
 
the_hoyle
andrebaptista wrote:
Hi,

I would like to know if I am the only one against this "off-season" bans.

Chris Vandevelde, Tom Danielson, Levi Leipheimer, Scarponi,..., all this guys received 3-6 months bans, but most of them will be able to start racing at the beginning of the next season. Am I the only one who thinks this is stupid and unfair for the other riders?


I agree with you, but the law differs from country to country. I think Aquarius said it in the December News thread, that if they were from France, the off season time would not be counted.
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These are slap-on-the wrist kind of bans. They're thinking that they kind of have to give a ban but don't really want to.
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issoisso
For the guys who cooperate, fine. For Scarponi, F*** him.
And midway for guys who pretend to tell all but don't, like Leipheimer.

"Oh I doped until 2006, then stopped, then 2008 again. That Tour podium in between was totally clean".

Sure Levi, whatever you say.

And if you think that's a slap on the wrist, wait until the Schleck decision. When one of their guys is caught, the luxembourg authorities always manage to make up the most painfully idiotic made-up-on-the-spot justifications for letting them go free.....and for Frank it'll be the second time.
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MrFerrari
issoisso wrote:
For the guys who cooperate, fine. For Scarponi, F*** him.
And midway for guys who pretend to tell all but don't, like Leipheimer.

"Oh I doped until 2006, then stopped, then 2008 again. That Tour podium in between was totally clean".

Sure Levi, whatever you say.

And if you think that's a slap on the wrist, wait until the Schleck decision. When one of their guys is caught, the luxembourg authorities always manage to make up the most painfully idiotic made-up-on-the-spot justifications for letting them go free.....and for Frank it'll be the second time.


Exactly.

No suspension for using Fuentes' "programs" - I still don't get it.
 
Aquarius
But it was for a training program. Shock You're being unfair to Frank. Pfft

As somebody pointed out on twitter (I reckon it was F. Grappe, but I wouldn't swear), has anyone already seen a training plan from Fuentes, Ferrari, or other doping specialists ? Most likely not as there must be none, the money is just used for advices for using doping products optimally and possibly the doping products themselves.
 
issoisso
Aquarius wrote:
As somebody pointed out on twitter (I reckon it was F. Grappe, but I wouldn't swear), has anyone already seen a training plan from Fuentes, Ferrari, or other doping specialists ?


In fact I did meet him. It was 1994 and I had an SRM power meter. He looked down at it and he said...."What is that?".

I said "It's a watt measuring device". He goes "What do you need that for?"

- Greg LeMond on Dr.Ferrari

Ferrari's knowledge about sports training is somewhere around the level of my grandmother's. He's a haematologist. He works with blood. That's it.
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