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Equipment on Hilly Stages
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| vbredad |
Posted on 13-11-2012 08:16
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Hi everyone,
Does the equipment make a difference in your riders ability(sprinter will sprint worse on flat finish with MO equipment)?
If it does make a difference what's the best for hilly stages? Currently I try and balance the equipment to get the combine best FL & MO stats.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 13-11-2012 08:18
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Well... Honestly, Equipment makes no difference in PCM, its useless...
So it doesn't matter, just choose the equipment that you like the most 
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 13-11-2012 10:43
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Equipment has no function except an aesthetic one |
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 13-11-2012 10:46
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It is there to look good. Not make your riser race better.
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| sieve |
Posted on 14-11-2012 19:39
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Really?
But different pieces of equipment have various star ratings that add up to an overall equipment score.
So you're saying that has no bearing on rider performance? |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 14-11-2012 19:41
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No effect whatsoever.
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| sieve |
Posted on 14-11-2012 20:56
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Oh, man...
I feel duped!
Now I feel like playing a race with my team wearing 10 gallon cowboy hats riding unicycles with stone wheels.
Edited by sieve on 14-11-2012 21:01
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| JuanMotr |
Posted on 14-11-2012 20:59
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I know it doesn´t have any effect but why didn´t they gave it some effect? I don´t think it can be that hard for them to make it... |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 14-11-2012 23:15
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There are many things on this planet which would be easy to do, but still nobody even tries to do them. And some of them are more important than giving effect to a bike in a game. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 15-11-2012 09:26
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Maybe the thought that the effect will be psychological?...  |
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| CosmicOsmo |
Posted on 15-11-2012 22:22
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....umm where is this idea that the equipment has no effect coming from? its not that I dont trust what youre saying, i just find it very hard to believe that they would bother with that whole star rating/buying equipment thing.
as for my own empirical data i will run a sim 10 times of the same riders with the same conditions riding the same time trial with and then without TT equip and i will report my findings back here
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| fintas |
Posted on 15-11-2012 22:31
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CosmicOsmo wrote:
....umm where is this idea that the equipment has no effect coming from? its not that I dont trust what youre saying, i just find it very hard to believe that they would bother with that whole star rating/buying equipment thing.
as for my own empirical data i will run a sim 10 times of the same riders with the same conditions riding the same time trial with and then without TT equip and i will report my findings back here
Do not bother to do it, because you will not get reliable results ... Simulation to simulation conditions change and the results are always different no matter what equipment you use
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 15-11-2012 22:34
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JuanMotr wrote:
I know it doesn´t have any effect but why didn´t they gave it some effect? I don´t think it can be that hard for them to make it...
Because we pay for the game even when they did not do it, no need to change for them.  And what Lachi said...
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| Lachi |
Posted on 15-11-2012 23:15
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@CosmicOsmo:
If you want to test it, then you need to do it in 3D at 1x speed. Everything else will mess it up.
Simulation is totally unreliable, even with the same material you will see huge differences. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 16-11-2012 10:20
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Even if it made a difference, it would be extremely minor. Because none of us ever felt something of it |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 16-11-2012 11:53
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There is no difference, not even a minor one. But if he wants to test, then he should not waste his time testing wrongly.
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| misar82 |
Posted on 16-11-2012 12:14
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CosmicOsmo wrote:
....umm where is this idea that the equipment has no effect coming from? its not that I dont trust what youre saying, i just find it very hard to believe that they would bother with that whole star rating/buying equipment thing.
as for my own empirical data i will run a sim 10 times of the same riders with the same conditions riding the same time trial with and then without TT equip and i will report my findings back here
There is one explanation.Equipment used to have an effect in older versions of PCM, where you also had to spend money to purchase the best possible equipment. Later on they changed that feature, but didnt bother to modify some graphic elementsthat became meaningless, like equipment stars for different tarrain and commands to purchase equipment. Shame on programmers really, but you can also see it as some sort of evolution remnant, like our reptilian brain 
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