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The next generation
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| 9-Ball |
Posted on 10-08-2012 16:50
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I was reading an article late last night from the late 80's on up and coming GC riders. It focused mainly on Indurain and his couple of years riding for Delgado before he went bananas in the TdF.
It raised the interesting question of who people most commonly see as the big GC riders of the next few years. Who are the young riders around now that will be winning multiple GTs and classics 5 and 10 years from now. While a few obvious names might jump out, I'm curious as to the general opinions on who the next big thing(s) are.
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
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| cio93 |
Posted on 10-08-2012 16:54
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What I can add as a guy that has most of his knowledge on younger riders from race reports rather than actual videos, thus maybe only the more obvious:
GT
Dombrowski
Pinot
Aru
Chaves
Quintana
Lecusinier seems to be quite talented as well
Classics
Moser
Betancur
Bardet
not to forget Degenkolb 
Edited by cio93 on 10-08-2012 17:02
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Posted on 10-08-2012 16:54
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 10-08-2012 16:56
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cio93 wrote:
What I can add as a guy that has most of his knowledge on younger riders from race reports rather than actual videos, thus only the more obvious:
GT
Dombrowski
Pinot
Aru
Chaves
Quintana
Classics
Moser
All the other races: Peter from Slovakia
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| CountArach |
Posted on 10-08-2012 17:00
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Obviously there are guys like Sagan, but looking at a few Belgians who I've been following for a year or two now, I think that these guys have the potential to become very strong in the classics:
Joeri Stallaert - Age: 21
Winner of the Junior RvV in 2009 I think. Last year, at only age 20, was second in the 1.1 Nationale Sluitingprijs behind Hutarovich. With a couple more years of development could be one to watch in the sprint classics. Unfortunately spent most of this season out with illness then injury.
Tom van Asbroeck - Age: 22
Came out of nowhere to win the U23 Omloop Het Nieuwsblad last year and is now with Topsport Vlaanderen. Has taken 2 1.2 victories in his neo-pro year and lots of top 10s. Can ride both types of classic and also sprints very well. Watch out for this guy because I think he will be one of the next big Belgian classics riders.
Tim Declercq - Age: 23
Another of the current crop of hugely talented Topsport riders. Was in the top 10 of Paris-Roubaix Espoirs in both 2010 and 2011. He put in a solo effort on the first stage of the Eneco Tour and looked strong. With a couple more years in the pro ranks behind him he is very much capable of big cobbled classics results.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 10-08-2012 17:01
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I still have hope in Jakob Rathe as a good sprinter/classics rider
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| cio93 |
Posted on 10-08-2012 17:02
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What about Stuyven, Count?
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| CountArach |
Posted on 10-08-2012 17:04
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cio93 wrote:
What about Stuyven, Count?
Definitely potential there for sure and his strong results at both the U23 Paris-Roubaix and RvV whilst still being a couple of years younger than most of the guys shows that he is definitely a winner. The only concern I would have is that he isn't racing much in Europe being with Bontrager-Livestrong.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 10-08-2012 17:06
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Wow, nobody mentioning EBH? Really?
What about Sagan?
They are both very young and can still change. EBH could be compeding for the GC in TDF in 5-7 years.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 10-08-2012 17:08
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hillis91 wrote:
Wow, nobody mentioning EBH? Really?
What about Sagan?
They are both very young and can still change. EBH could be compeding for the GC in TDF in 5-7 years.
Mine are more a "who's under the radar of the "normal" cycling followers", because noone watching cycling more than twice a year wouldn't answer these 2.
Edited by cio93 on 10-08-2012 17:10
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| kumazan |
Posted on 10-08-2012 17:12
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 10-08-2012 17:12
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hillis91 wrote:
Wow, nobody mentioning EBH? Really?
What about Sagan?
They are both very young and can still change. EBH could be compeding for the GC in TDF in 5-7 years.
they are both established already
and EBH is 24 thats old for a next gen rider
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| Gulvplanke |
Posted on 10-08-2012 17:13
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Bob Jungels?
How hard can it be?
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Posted on 10-08-2012 17:19
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oh and me
in all seriousness watch out! |
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Posted on 10-08-2012 17:23
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Gulvplanke wrote:
Bob Jungels?
Definitely. Super talent.
Sean De Bie is another one. Great at pretty much everything. Has a contract offer from Topsport for next year but is holding out to see if a WT team will offer him a contract. I wouldn't be surprised if someone does.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 10-08-2012 17:27
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Betancur
Silin
Kump
Castroviejo
Selig
Tsatevich
Duarte
Ponzi
Degenkolb
I personally believe that Boily will be a decent One-week stage racer. Boivin will be a pretty good sprinter too.
Edited by valverde321 on 10-08-2012 17:31
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 10-08-2012 17:31
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TheManxMissile wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Wow, nobody mentioning EBH? Really?
What about Sagan?
They are both very young and can still change. EBH could be compeding for the GC in TDF in 5-7 years.
they are both established already
and EBH is 24 thats old for a next gen rider
No it's not, you can be a top-notch cyclist until you're 35-37. So 24 is very young. And they are established for sure, but not molded into what they want to be. If you catch my drift young bull?
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Posted on 10-08-2012 17:35
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hillis91 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Wow, nobody mentioning EBH? Really?
What about Sagan?
They are both very young and can still change. EBH could be compeding for the GC in TDF in 5-7 years.
they are both established already
and EBH is 24 thats old for a next gen rider
No it's not, you can be a top-notch cyclist until you're 35-37. So 24 is very young. And they are established for sure, but not molded into what they want to be. If you catch my drift young bull?
I disagree with the age aspect. Wasn't Evans one of the oldest Tour de France winners ever at 34? For me a riders peak is 28-33 ish.
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Posted on 10-08-2012 17:40
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valverde321 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Wow, nobody mentioning EBH? Really?
What about Sagan?
They are both very young and can still change. EBH could be compeding for the GC in TDF in 5-7 years.
they are both established already
and EBH is 24 thats old for a next gen rider
No it's not, you can be a top-notch cyclist until you're 35-37. So 24 is very young. And they are established for sure, but not molded into what they want to be. If you catch my drift young bull?
I disagree with the age aspect. Wasn't Evans one of the oldest Tour de France winners ever at 34? For me a riders peak is 28-33 ish.
Woooow, really? You can be a top-notch rider in the age of 35-37. Im not talking about winning GT's, im talking about not being a shitbag of a cyclist.
Edit: Like Leipheimer and Horner, to make an example that's close to your home 
Edited by hillis91 on 10-08-2012 17:41
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| cio93 |
Posted on 10-08-2012 17:42
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hillis91 wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Wow, nobody mentioning EBH? Really?
What about Sagan?
They are both very young and can still change. EBH could be compeding for the GC in TDF in 5-7 years.
they are both established already
and EBH is 24 thats old for a next gen rider
No it's not, you can be a top-notch cyclist until you're 35-37. So 24 is very young. And they are established for sure, but not molded into what they want to be. If you catch my drift young bull?
I disagree with the age aspect. Wasn't Evans one of the oldest Tour de France winners ever at 34? For me a riders peak is 28-33 ish.
Woooow, really? You can be a top-notch rider in the age of 35-37. Im not talking about winning GT's, im talking about not being a shitbag of a cyclist.
Sure, but isn't this about guys who will start to win GTs/classics in 5-10 years rather than about some who stop doing so in 5-10 years?
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