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| ruben |
Posted on 30-07-2012 23:16
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1 januari 2011
I sit here at my desk. It's cluttered with papers. Papers with a calender on them, with advanced training schedules, with budget overviews and other stuff. Notes with names, names of talented cyclists. Cyclists of a country with no cycling background, or barely any, China.
How did I get here? And what is this all about? Well, somehow I'm the main manager of China Cycling Team. This is what happened....
It was a cold boring november night when I got a strange phone call:
Me: "[in Dutch]Hello, Lampe residence..."
Unkown guy:[horrible Chinese accent] "Ah yes mister Lampe, this Ruben Lampe?"
Me: "Yes this is indeed Ruben speaking. Who are you? This is not another stupid scam phone call is it?"
Unkown: "No we not from scam company. We from Chinese cycling union. I am mister Zhu. I am head of this union. We want to know if you interested in a position fol a new cycling project"
Me: "What kind of project? And why me? And how did you learn English?"
Mr.Zhu: "My daughter runs dry cleaning service in New York. And my son runs City Wok in Florida. And my other daughter fuck guys with giant penis on camera for money in various places. They learn me English.
Project is to bring China to the top of cycling in 5 years. We not good in cycling. We want Chinese tour winner and world champion. China can not lag behind other countries in these sport anymore, it's shameless"
Me: "...uh, too much info about that other daughter... But the project sounds cool. Still, why me? I'm a nobody. And what if I were to accept, what are my resources to do this because it sounds impossible"
Mr.Zhu: "Do not question our choices. We simply think you have the potential to lead Chinese to great success. We ahve great resources available. We invest 6 million a year. We hire you best scouts and trainers you wish. We upgrade all training facilities. You have free roam to plan your season and tell us what you need. We pay you good money! If you accept you start 2011 season at continental level."
Me: "Ok, I'll do it. When do we meet?"
Mr:Zhu: "Look outside, we're already at your door, Mr. Lampe. See you soon..."
Mr.Zhu
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And that's how all this crazy shit got started. I had 2 months to look at the best that the China youth got to offer and this is what I picked up for our first season!
Overall not too bad. Zhao could pick up some sprint placings. Luo, Hu and Liu can go uphill a bit. And that same Liu has a nasty prologue as well.
Logically half the team is worthless at this moment, but some guys are really young and have some good potential.
With the money of China we have some very good backroom staff and the possibility to buy the best material
Everyone is on a 1-year contract and in july we'll decide who will stay and leave. And find new talents to replace those who leave.
Once we promote to the world tour, we will increase the squad size to 25 riders and then to 27 and 30 riders the seasons after. But that will be far future stuff.
DB info
Heavily modified DBVNC 2011 db.
Savegame will be modified each season to include best 26 nations on CQ ranking into the world championships. All nations will have 6 starters in the road race and 2 in the time trial. No exceptions.
Variants only for Tour/Giro/Vuelta (I find many variants unstable).
Edited by ruben on 30-07-2012 23:19
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-07-2012 23:18
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Good ruck Ruben Rampe
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| ruben |
Posted on 30-07-2012 23:20
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Thank you, wise sir. We will send you our best rice for free |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 30-07-2012 23:27
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Nice intro! Very detailed 
Will be nice to see how this Chinese riders develop!
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 31-07-2012 00:25
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The story start is just brilliant, if that is how this is going to be done then we are in for one hell of a ride, Good Luck matey  |
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| ruben |
Posted on 31-07-2012 00:43
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Thanks guys! And just to reward your support, here's another piece before I go to sleep 
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Tour de Langkawi
On the first race of our planning, we start 'close' to home. The Tour of Langkawi it is. Since this is no sponsor goal, I sent my asisstant to take care of the racing. Besides, with no form, I didn't think we could achieve any result here.
But suprisingly, my asisstent mr Ai Laik Baik did brilliantly.
Three Chinese talents placed in the top 35!! Also, Guardini won 6 flat stages...
1 Alex Cano Colombia es Pasion - Cafe de Colombia 32h02'21
2 Christian Knees Sky Pro Cycling + 10
3 Rigoberto Uran Sky Pro Cycling + 19
4 Chris Anker Sørensen Saxo Bank - Sungard + 25
5 Francesco Masciarelli Pro Team Astana + 47
21 Xialong Liu China Cycling Team +1'38
31 Jin Huang China Cycling Team +2'11
35 Zhongxun Wu China Cycling Team + 2'47
46 Zuojin Zhang China Cycling Team + 4'54
61 Wenpeng Chen China Cycling Team + 7'44
79 Mao He China Cycling Team +9'18
85 Jin Ma China Cycling Team + 10'16
148 Xialong Yang China Cycling Team + 22'21
Tour of Qatar
Same selection as Langkawi, but with Yang replaced by our sprinter Zhao! The CCU (Chinese Cycling Union) has set the rather ambitious goal of getting a top 10 in the GC here. This will be impossible. But we'll try to satisfy them by racing to our maximum!
Stage 1
After Alex Rasmussen (HTC) has set the fast time early in this 2.5km prologue. It was Liu who suprised by being only 1 second slower in 2nd place. In the end top riders as Rosseler and Sutherland went under this time, but only just.
The final starter, Thor Hushovd, won the prologue convincingly though with a fantastic time.
Liu won the young riders jersey!
1 Thor Hushovd Team Garmin - Cervélo 3'00
2 Rory Sutherland UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling + 4
3 Sébastien Rosseler Team RadioShack + 5
4 Alex Rasmussen HTC - Highroad + 6
5 Xialong Liu China Cycling Team s.t.
Stage 2
We tried to keep Liu safe and sprint with Zhao. Unfortunately he doesn't really have good form yet. So even if he had 6th position in the leadup, he finished outside the top 10.
1 Thor Hushovd Team Garmin - Cervélo 3h27'48
2 Robbie McEwen Team RadioShack s.t.
3 Greg Van Avermaet BMC Racing Team s.t.
4 Christopher Sutton Sky Pro Cycling s.t.
5 Robert Förster UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling s.t.
12 Minzhi Zhao China Cycling Team s.t.
Stage 3
Stage with a lot of wind. We kept our leaders out of problem and Zhao actually had a very good day. He sprinted to a 4th place. In this world class field that's amazing!
1 Christopher Sutton Sky Pro Cycling 3h14'58
2 Juan José Haedo Saxo Bank - Sungard s.t.
3 Robbie McEwen Team RadioShack s.t.
4 Minzhi Zhao China Cycling Team s.t.
5 Thor Hushovd Team Garmin - Cervélo s.t.
Stage 4
Another very windy day in Qatar and in the final the peloton actually broke into two pieces. 5 men of the Chinese team survived including sprinter Zhao and prologue specialist Liu. Zhao was very tired but still managed a nice 8th place. Haedo was too strong today
1 Juan José Haedo Saxo Bank - Sungard 3h24'48
2 Greg Van Avermaet BMC Racing Team s.t.
3 Christopher Sutton Sky Pro Cycling s.t.
4 Robbie McEwen Team RadioShack s.t.
5 Thor Hushovd Team Garmin - Cervélo s.t.
8 Minzhi Zhao China Cycling Team s.t.
Stage 5
No stress in the wind today. Zhao had a good day but he had problems with positioning himself. He kept getting pushed out of the wheel by more reputated sprinters. He needs to learn to be aggresive and push back. Still scraped a 10th place from bad position though.
1 Tyler Farrar Team Garmin - Cervélo 3h27'58
2 Thor Hushovd Team Garmin - Cervélo s.t.
3 Robbie McEwen Team RadioShack s.t.
4 Greg Van Avermaet BMC Racing Team s.t.
5 Juan José Haedo Saxo Bank - Sungard s.t.
10 Minzhi Zhao China Cycling Team s.t.
Stage 6
The last sprint was on a wide boulevard and Zhao was in the wheel of GC leader Hushovd.. who then suddenly left a gap with the first five. So Zhao switched to another wheel. And then Hushvod suddenly did start sprinting (only to close the gap, but not win). Weird tactics by the norwegian which also cost Zhao a potential top 5 placing.
However the big success for China was the win in the young riders classification and a 3rd place for Zhao as well!
1 Robert Förster UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling 2h22'25
2 Robbie McEwen Team RadioShack s.t.
3 Tyler Farrar Team Garmin - Cervélo s.t.
4 Thor Hushovd Team Garmin - Cervélo s.t.
5 Greg Van Avermaet BMC Racing Team s.t.
13 Minzhi Zhao China Cycling Team s.t.
General Classification
1 Thor Hushovd Team Garmin - Cervélo 13h38'16
2 Christopher Sutton Sky Pro Cycling + 10
3 Robbie McEwen Team RadioShack + 13
4 Greg Van Avermaet BMC Racing Team + 16
5 Juan José Haedo Saxo Bank - Sungard + 17
6 Rory Sutherland UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling + 20
7 Sébastien Rosseler Team RadioShack + 21
8 Jonathan Clarke UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling s.t.
9 Alex Rasmussen HTC - Highroad + 22
10 Laszlo Bodrogi Team Type 1 s.t.
11 Xialong Liu China Cycling Team s.t.
17 Minzhi Zhao China Cycling Team + 26
38 Jin Ma China Cycling Team + 33
39 Mao He China Cycling Team s.t.
47 Zuojin Zhang China Cycling Team + 36
53 Min Li China Cycling Team + 2'05
82 Zhongxun Wu China Cycling Team + 2'18
88 Wenpeng Chen China Cycling Team + 4'12
Time for an update with Mr.Zhu
Mr.Zhu: "Hello mr.Lampe, how you do?"
Me: "It's a bit hot here in Qatar but otherwise I'm quite fine. What's up?"
Mr.Zhu: "What's up? Chinese economy is up, says our great leader. But also, we want to thank you for the good results in Qatar. You did not achieve goal of top 10, but we very happy with best young rider!"
Me: "Well expecting a top 10 was unrealistic. Top champions like Hushovd and many top sprinters started here. What were you thinking? Our young guys adapted brilliantly to the new level but top 10 was asking too much"
Mr.Zhu: "To become champion, you have to think like champion. My daughter would not be porn star if she think like dumb whore. Do not think like dumb whore mr. Lampe. Set high goals, bring out best!"
Me: "... I think it's time to close this conversation. I will try my best to achieve your goals, but I'm just saying they are pretty steep"
Mr.Zhu: "Great wall of Huy is steep. No goal is impossible. We have faith in you mr. Lampe. Good luck"
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 31-07-2012 00:48
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Mr.Zhu: "To become champion, you have to think like champion. My daughter would not be porn star if she think like dumb whore. Do not think like dumb whore mr. Lampe. Set high goals, bring out best!"
This is just pure Classic  |
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| AndySchleck |
Posted on 31-07-2012 01:33
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Great! I love what I'm reading! (No picture of his daugter?  )
I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion.
Alexander The Great
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| ruben |
Posted on 31-07-2012 14:39
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Volta ao Algarve
Another race that was added because of the CCU expecting a top 10 here. Ridicolous in a field with Liquigas (Basso, Nibali, Sagan, Capecchi, Agnoli) and Euskaltel (Nieve, Txurruka, Landa, Oroz) with very strong teams. But I guess we'll have to try with our best hilly riders, Ma and Li.
Stage 1
We expected Liquigas/Euskaltel to control any breaks in this hilly stage with a flat finish. But they didn't do properly. So the break stayed ahead. Too bad for us, top 10 now nearly impossible (as if it wasn't already) with 9 guys more than 2 minutes ahead.
1 Xavier Zabalo Orbea Continental 4h07'35
2 Ricardo Mestre Tavira - Prio s.t.
3 Thomas Vaubourzeix Vélo-Club La Pomme Marseille s.t.
4 Renaud Dion Bretagne - Schuller s.t.
5 Morgan Kneisky Roubaix Lille Métropole s.t.
14 Jin Ma China Cycling Team +2'39.
Stage 2
It cost him a lot of power, but Minzhi LUo was part of the break of the day.
In the final Oroz and 2 others attacked. Luo didn't even try to react and just worked with the others. In the final 10km he tried a counter attack, but the lead 3 only road away further.
Delpech won the stage. Luo ended last from the break, but still in the top 10.
1 Jean-Luc Delpech Bretagne - Schuller 4h48'17
2 Juan Jose Oroz Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
3 Manuel Ortega Andalucia - Caja Granada s.t.
4 Mathieu Drujon Bigmat - Auber 93 + 2'03
5 Jelle Wallays Topsport Vlaaderen - Mercator s.t.
9 Minzhi Luo China Cycling Team s.t.
10 Stijn Neirynck Topsport Vlaaderen - Mercator + 3'16
13 Jin Ma China Cycling Team s.t.
Stage 3
Alto de Malhao... Expect Liquigas to dominate. We'll suffer badly.
And that prediction comes true, with 50km the peloton splits and Li, Ma and Luo are already going at threshold. I tell them not to go in the red zone because then they'll suffer even worse. Li and Ma make it to the favorite group of 26 though!
But it's still a while to go until we reach the foot of Malhao.
With 32km to go the the group splits up even more and Ma suprises all by being with the front 8! Li is in the second group behind with yellow jersey Delpech. And with 20km to go the group comes together. 14 riders in chase of 2 riders, with 2 Chinese riders in this favorite group. We reach the foot of the Malhao with this group.
At the foot Basso and Landa explode away. Ma starts the final sprint pretty much in front. Li is already struggling.
Mikel Landa continues his assault on the climb and wins the stage. Ma suprises everyone by finishing a very respectable 8th place. 2nd rider Li finishes just ahead of a guy like Mikel Nieve.. Great ride!
1 Mikel Landa Euskaltel - Euskadi 4h44'09
2 Ivan Basso Liquigas - Cannondale + 17
3 Peter Sagan Liquigas - Cannondale + 50
4 Valerio Agnoli Liquigas - Cannondale + 1'03
5 Sylvain Calzati Bretagne - Schuller s.t.
6 Björn Schröder NUTRIXXION Sparkasse + 1'27
7 Eric Berthou Bretagne - Schuller + 1'35
8 Jin Ma China Cycling Team + 1'46
9 Jesus Rosendo Andalucia - Caja Granada s.t.
10 Eros Capecchi Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
13 Min Li China Cycling Team + 2'28
Stage 4
It's a shame both Li and Ma are just outside the top 10, which was our, thought impossible, goal. With just a short ITT to go it's not possible for Ma to move up, his time trial is awful. Li is decent, but he's a minute too far away to really make an impact.
This flat stage we can't do much, but we'll try to move Li up the standings.
The break that is up the road has some pretty dangerous guys for our top 20 placings. But not for the leader, so they don't ride fast. china Cycling Team takes to the front...
The luck is that both Ma and Li have a very good day. With 17km to go we sent Ma up the road. Ma makes the races very hard and the peloton splits up. With 3km she is caught and Li places a suprise attack. Can he make it?
NOOO Sagan passes him with a few meters to go 
1 Peter Sagan Liquigas - Cannondale 4h11'27
2 Min Li China Cycling Team s.t.
3 Julien Antomarchi Vélo-Club La Pomme Marseille s.t.
4 Stijn Neirynck Topsport Vlaaderen - Mercator s.t.
5 Jean-Luc Delpech Bretagne - Schuller s.t.
10 Jin Ma China Cycling Team s.t.
Stage 5
The final time trial, knowing it's impossible to move into the top 10. But we tried anyway.
Y.Hu set a very good time early, nearly 35 seconds faster than the number two Schmitt.
The first guy who broke that time was another Chinese. Zhang, with 27'57 nearly 8 seconds faster.
The chinese party didn't last as Castroviejo went substantially faster in 27'39, a deficit of almost 17 seconds for Zhang.
Li, our best hope this timetrial, does a very respectable time of only 10 seconds slower than Castroviejo. Non-time triallist Ma loses 58 seconds.
Finally, the result..
1 Jonathan Castroviejo Euskaltel - Euskadi 27'39
2 Vincenzo Nibali Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
3 Raivis Belohvosciks Team Vorarlberg + 7
4 Vicente David Bernabeu Andalucia - Caja Granada + 8
5 Min Li China Cycling Team + 11
9 Zuojin Zhang China Cycling Team + 18
12 Yongan Hu China Cycling Team + 27
Final GC
1 Jean-Luc Delpech Bretagne - Schuller 18h25'10
2 Ivan Basso Liquigas - Cannondale + 17
3 Peter Sagan Liquigas - Cannondale + 41
4 Mikel Landa Euskaltel - Euskadi + 54
5 Juan Jose Oroz Euskaltel - Euskadi + 1'32
6 Sylvain Calzati Bretagne - Schuller + 1'36
7 Valerio Agnoli Liquigas - Cannondale + 1'48
8 Björn Schröder NUTRIXXION Sparkasse + 1'49
9 Manuel Ortega Andalucia - Caja Granada + 1'57
10 Eric Berthou Bretagne - Schuller + 2'04
11 Min Li China Cycling Team + 2'25
14 Jin Ma China Cycling Team + 2'37
28 Zhongxun Wu China Cycling Team + 5'29
49 Minzhi Luo China Cycling Team + 10'40
55 Zuojin Zhang China Cycling Team + 11'56
60 Wenpeng Chen China Cycling Team + 12'34
97 Yongan Hu China Cycling Team + 20'16
114 Leilei Xu China Cycling Team + 32'59
Again agonizingly close to our goal here. But close is not good enough.
Ruta del Sol
Top 10 as goal here. Laughable as always.
Stage 1
Short prologue. Export didn't work.
1 Gustav Larsson Saxo Bank - Sungard 8'59
2 David Zabriskie Team Garmin - Cervélo +3"
3 Luis León Sánchez Rabobank +4"
4 Laszlo Bodrogi Team Type 1 +6"
5 Ignatas Konovalovas Movistar Team +7"
22 Xialong Liu China Cycling Team +19"
Stage 2
LL Sanchez, Gesink, Hesjedal, Vanendert, Van den Broeck, Porte, Danielson, Kiryenka, Pardilla, Gilbert... just a sample of the names starting here. Yeah. So. Top 10. Lol.
No big story for this stage. The break stayed ahead and Liu was the only surviver for our team. And the export let us down again. Davide Ricci Bitti is the new leader. Liu is 22th 2'40 down.
Stage 3
Again a large break goes away, 12 man this time. Unfortunately Liu had a bad day and got dropped on the last hill from a peloton of 30 man. He came back on a little hill with 25km to go in a little group, but immediately got dropped again.
Too bad. No good classification possible here.
1 Francisco Ventoso Movistar Team 4h21'55
2 José Joaquin Rojas Gil Movistar Team s.t.
3 Jesus Hernandez Blazquez Saxo Bank - Sungard +12"
4 Heinrich Haussler Team Garmin - Cervélo +25"
5 Antonio Piedra Andalucia - Caja Granada +25"
59 Xialong Liu China Cycling Team +6"54
60 Minzhi Zhao China Cycling Team +6"54
Stage 4
A sprint stage. We have nothing to lose and the maximum Zhao can do is a top 10. So the rest of the team will have the goal of being in the attack.
Liu dealt with his disappointment well and was in the attack today. But with 22km to go the peloton returned. Zhao didn't have the power left to do a sprint so didn't really figure.
Rojas wins in front of Brown.
1 José Josquin Rojas Gil Movistar Team 4h10'488
2 Graeme Brown Rabobank s.t.
3 Koldo Fernandez Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
4 Philippe Gilbert Omega Pharma - Lotto s.t.
5 Aitor Galdós Caja Rujal s.t.
43 Minzhi Zhao China Cycling Team s.t.
Stage 5
Final flat stage. Xialong Liu is aggresive once again and is part of the break of the day.
With 30km to go. Liu feels strong and goes solo. The other breakaway riders, with Stefan Schumacher, get caught. But Liu gets swallowed up as well with 15km to go. A mass sprint it is.
The pace in the final is too hard for Zhao and he can't really do much in the sprint, except go backwards.
1 José Joaquin Rojas Gil Movistar Team 4h01'06"
2 Graeme Brown Rabobank s.t.
3 Francisco Ventoso Movistar Team s.t.
4 Philippe Gilbert Omega Pharma - Lotto s.t.
5 Koldo Fernandez Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
21 Minzhi Zhao China Cycling Team s.t.
Final GC
1 Davide Ricci Bitti Farnese Vini 17h21'58
2 Fabricio Ferrari Caja Rujal +3"
3 Alexander Efimkin Team Type 1 + 27"
4 Jesus Hernandez Blazquez Saxo Bank - Sungard +1'15"
5 Philippe Gilbert Omega Pharma - Lotto +1'29"
50 Xialong Liu China Cycling Team +11'36"
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Mr.Zhu: "Yes mr.Lampe, what was that?"
Me: "What was what? Your impossible goals?"
Mr.Zhu: "Only 50th place in Ruta del Sol. Not good. Why did it happen?"
Me: "Because world class riders appeared in good form. Our Chinese youth needs more room to grow"
Mr.Zhu: "Ok. But if you keep results like in Ruta up all year. I send you to dry cleaning service in New York and work there."
Me: "... can't I work with your daughter instead?"
Mr.Zhu: "Only when you win big race"
Me: "...crap"
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 31-07-2012 15:13
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LMAO this is a great! Will continue to follow.
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Posted on 31-07-2012 18:48
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Win that big race and his daughter is yours |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 31-07-2012 19:27
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The only story ive read on here (no offence to anyone else) that i keep refreshing to see the next update, and its only a day old
Fantastic stuff, and i love the idea
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 31-07-2012 20:01
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This story is just magnificent 
Those conversations with Mr. Zhu make me laugh my ass off. Good work Ruben
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| ruben |
Posted on 31-07-2012 20:50
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Thanks for the comments everyone. As for the next update. I've already have the report ready but I don't wnat to go too fast. Give everyone a chance to catch up and do something else myself too, so I don't get bored too fast with it.
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| dienblad |
Posted on 31-07-2012 21:24
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I must say Ruben, your story is great! Love the humor in it, I don't even miss the lack of screen shots. Keep it coming!
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| krzychu92 |
Posted on 31-07-2012 23:47
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Small Chinese inside me says: "Me like it! The story is good, Mr. Zhu is funny, but must you understand him! Giving he is money for you! Wants he results!"
Anyway, must follow story
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| Dropstaaf |
Posted on 01-08-2012 00:03
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Lovely story. I'm not really into stories but I'll definitely be following this!
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Posted on 01-08-2012 00:48
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This is hilarious! |
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| aidanvn13 |
Posted on 06-08-2012 16:07
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Ruben, when are you posting again?
I can make a jersey for you, if you want?
Check my thread: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....rowstart=0
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