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| fickman |
Posted on 19-07-2012 17:36
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So I want to update my Datbase a little and wanna know your opinion:
Mountain:
1. A.Schleck
2. A.Contador
3. V.Nibali
4. J.Van den Broeck
5. J.RodrÃguez
6. C.Froome
7. P.Rolland
8. S.Sánchez
9. R.Hesjedal
10. M.Scarponi
Hil:
1. J.RodrÃguez
2. S.Sánchez
3. C.Evans
4. P.Sagan
5. V.Nibali
6. C.Froome
7. A.Valverde
8. M.Albasini
9. F.Schleck
10. A.Schleck
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 19-07-2012 17:45
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Mounatin should be:
Froome
Contador
Wiggins
Schleck
Nibali
Rodriguez
Hesjedal
Van den Broeck
Sanchez
Rolland
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 19-07-2012 17:58
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IMO:
Contador
Schleck
Froome
Wiggins
Nibali
VDB
Schleck
Sanchez
Purito
Anton
Evans
Hesjedal
Rolland
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| fernando97 |
Posted on 19-07-2012 17:59
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Mountain:
Contador
A. Schleck
Froome
Nibali
Wiggins
Vandenbroeck
Hesjedal
Rodriguez
Sanchez
Rolland
F. Schleck
Evans |
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| nutter453 |
Posted on 19-07-2012 20:21
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Just want to throw the names of Thibaut Pinot into the mix along with Van Garderen after their performances in the tour. They have both climbed as well as Evans (And Van Garderen has exceeded him on a few occasions) |
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| yoejo |
Posted on 20-07-2012 01:06
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Pozzovivo should be around F.schleck and i agree about Pinot and Van Garderen. |
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 20-07-2012 01:29
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Wiggins and Froome are much less great as individuals, so IMO they are not amongst the greatest.
Mountain Ranking in my opinion:
1.Andy Schleck
2.Contador w/o doping
3.Froome
4.Nibali
5.VDB
6.Gesink
7.Wiggins
8.Evans
9.Frank Schleck
10.Samuel Sanchez
11.Rolland
12.Rodriguez
13.Anton
14.Pinot
15.Hesjedal
16.Van Garderen
17.De Gendt
18.Mollema
19.Basso
20.Rujano
21.Cunego
22.Brajkovic
23.Vinokourov
24.Kreuziger
25.Velits
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-07-2012 01:38
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fcancellara wrote:
Wiggins and Froome are much less great as individuals, so IMO they are not amongst the greatest.
Mountain Ranking in my opinion:
1.Andy Schleck
2.Contador w/o doping
3.Froome
4.Nibali
5.VDB
6.Gesink
7.Wiggins
8.Evans
9.Frank Schleck
10.Samuel Sanchez
11.Rolland
12.Rodriguez
13.Anton
14.Pinot
15.Hesjedal
16.Van Garderen
17.De Gendt
18.Mollema
19.Basso
20.Rujano
21.Cunego
22.Brajkovic
23.Vinokourov
24.Kreuziger
25.Velits
Waht has Rujano done? I'd add Horner there if you have Velits. Other names you missed: Dan Martin, Vanendert, Scarponi are also missed here. Velits, Vino, Anton would fit there and reshuffle.
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 20-07-2012 01:46
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baseballlover312 wrote:
fcancellara wrote:
Wiggins and Froome are much less great as individuals, so IMO they are not amongst the greatest.
Mountain Ranking in my opinion:
1.Andy Schleck
2.Contador w/o doping
3.Froome
4.Nibali
5.VDB
6.Gesink
7.Wiggins
8.Evans
9.Frank Schleck
10.Samuel Sanchez
11.Rolland
12.Rodriguez
13.Anton
14.Pinot
15.Hesjedal
16.Van Garderen
17.De Gendt
18.Mollema
19.Basso
20.Rujano
21.Cunego
22.Brajkovic
23.Vinokourov
24.Kreuziger
25.Velits
Waht has Rujano done? I'd add Horner there if you have Velits. Other names you missed: Dan Martin, Vanendert, Scarponi are also missed here. Velits, Vino, Anton would fit there and reshuffle.
At the moment Rujano is not that strong indeed.
Horner is on equal level to Vino, Kreuziger and Velits IMO.
I indeed forgot Scarponi, he should be equal to Sammy.
Dan Martin would be around 30th spot, same goes for Vanendert.
Conclusion: THERE'S TOO DAMN MANY CLIMBERS! 
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-07-2012 02:00
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I'm sorry where were Vino and Velits are getting 8th from the peleton on MTF in the TDF?
And Dan Martin and Vanendert have won MTFs in grand tours ahead of everyone on that list.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 20-07-2012 02:23
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Did people not see Vanendert the past two years?
My list would be:
1. Contador
2. Andy Schleck
3. Nibali
4. Evans
5. Froome
6. VDB
7. Gesink
8. Rolland
9. Rodriguez
10. Anton
11. Sammy Sanchez
12. Pinot
13. Cunego
14. Hesjedal
15. Kreuziger
16. Menchov
17. Van Garderen
18. Kloden
19. Mollema
20. Rujano
Honourable Mentions: Vanendert, Gadret, Pozzo, Peraud, Horner and maybe Henao and just to say, my list isn't 100% accurate after about the Top 5, as I didnt feel like doing much research.
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 20-07-2012 02:26
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valverde321 wrote:
Did people not see Vanendert the past two years?
My list would be:
1. Contador
2. Andy Schleck
3. Nibali
4. Evans
5. Froome
6. VDB
7. Gesink
8. Rolland
9. Rodriguez
10. Anton
11. Sammy Sanchez
12. Pinot
13. Cunego
14. Hesjedal
15. Kreuziger
16. Menchov
17. Van Garderen
18. Kloden
19. Mollema
20. Rujano
Honourable Mentions: Vanendert, Gadret, Pozzo, Peraud, Horner and maybe Henao and just to say, my list isn't 100% accurate after about the Top 5, as I didnt feel like doing much research.
So this year's tour winner is not good enough to make the list ;p ?
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 20-07-2012 02:26
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valverde321 wrote:
Did people not see Vanendert the past two years?
My list would be:
1. Contador
2. Andy Schleck
3. Nibali
4. Evans
5. Froome
6. VDB
7. Gesink
8. Rolland
9. Rodriguez
10. Anton
11. Sammy Sanchez
12. Pinot
13. Cunego
14. Hesjedal
15. Kreuziger
16. Menchov
17. Van Garderen
18. Kloden
19. Mollema
20. Rujano
Honourable Mentions: Vanendert, Gadret, Pozzo, Peraud, Horner and maybe Henao and just to say, my list isn't 100% accurate after about the Top 5, as I didnt feel like doing much research.
What about Wiggo?
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 20-07-2012 02:29
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fcancellara wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
Did people not see Vanendert the past two years?
My list would be:
1. Contador
2. Andy Schleck
3. Nibali
4. Evans
5. Froome
6. VDB
7. Gesink
8. Rolland
9. Rodriguez
10. Anton
11. Sammy Sanchez
12. Pinot
13. Cunego
14. Hesjedal
15. Kreuziger
16. Menchov
17. Van Garderen
18. Kloden
19. Mollema
20. Rujano
Honourable Mentions: Vanendert, Gadret, Pozzo, Peraud, Horner and maybe Henao and just to say, my list isn't 100% accurate after about the Top 5, as I didnt feel like doing much research.
What about Wiggo?
Forgot him, opps. Probably at #9 for me.
And its too hard to say for sure after about the Top 10 anyway, riders are always on or off form.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-07-2012 02:43
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Did you restrain from Valverde?
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| emre99 |
Posted on 20-07-2012 07:56
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List would be :
Contador
A. Schleck
Froome
Wiggins
Nibali
VDB
Schleck
Sanchez
Hesjedal
Pinot
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| fickman |
Posted on 20-07-2012 11:14
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How much Mon would u give to Pinot and Van Garderen??? |
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| GreenEDGEFan |
Posted on 20-07-2012 11:38
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I don't see why everybody is putting Evans so low ... yes he's had a shocking tour but he's horrible out of form and probably sick. Five years of great climbing and one bad tour doesn't suddenly make him a worse climber (ability wise, not currently) then everybody else is making him out to be. Remember how Nibali got dropped at the Dauphine?
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 20-07-2012 11:43
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GreenEDGEFan wrote:
I don't see why everybody is putting Evans so low ... yes he's had a shocking tour but he's horrible out of form and probably sick. Five years of great climbing and one bad tour doesn't suddenly make him a worse climber (ability wise, not currently) then everybody else is making him out to be. Remember how Nibali got dropped at the Dauphine?
The difference is Nibali is in shape at his objective race this year and Cadel is out of shape entire season. He won the tour last year, good for him but IMO he won't be on high level again.
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| lukaas |
Posted on 20-07-2012 11:54
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Mountain
1 Andy Schleck
2 Contador
3 Froome
4 Wiggins
5 Nibali
6 VDB
7 Hesjedal
8 Purito
9 Sammy
10 Evans
11 Voeckler
12 Anton
13 Fränk Schleck
14 Pinot
15 Rogers/Porte/Rolland/TJVG |
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