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La Vuelta a Espana preview and discussion
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Posted on 13-02-2012 15:06
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The Course
The Spanish wrested back their tour last year with Valverde and Intxausti doing battle for much of the race ahead of 2010 champion Andy Schleck. Schleck the younger is sitting this year out and so the Spaniards are expecting a home triumph again, and it is a new home grown youngster who could be set to take the world by storm. Let's first examine the course.
It's undoubtedly a course for the pure climbers this year in the Vuelta with no less than seven mountain top finishes and a Mountain time trial. Some established climbing favourites are in this year's race but some new climbs are added to the rich history including the first ever ascent of the Pico del Veleta in the Sierra Nevada.
Section one - Portugal

Yes that's right the Vuelta starts in Portugal! We have three stages completely in Portugal this year before crossing into Spain on Day 4 of the race. The opener is a 16km ITT in Porto, the only one for specialists in this year's race. Tour de France 2011 prologue winner Jerome Coppel is here to try and snatch the red jersey or the many Spanish candidates. The sprinters should get their chance on stage two into Coimbra, we will also crown our first king of the mountains in the mornings nasty looking hilly section. Óscar Avelino will be hoping to take the rare oppurtunity of a grand tour stage win in his home country.
Stage three and four long energy sapping ones with tricky endings, the entry into Lisboa to end stage 3 is lumpy and the long steady grind into the first Spanish ending in Zafra on stage four may be tough for some of the fast men. Jurgen Roelandts winner of two stages in California and points jersey winner here last year will surely start favourite particularly with his ability to survive climbs.
Section 2 - The Southern Mountains
The Vuelta likes to mix it up with where the mountains are going to be and they come early this year with two tough AndalucÃan mountain stages. Stage five has 7 KoM primes ending in the 10.5km @ 8% climb of the Sierra de Mijas. Here the favourites will be emerging already and likely the first serious candidate will show their hand. The climbers must be careful not to go too far over the limit though because the next day they have the 42km@6% beast of the Pico del Veleta to ascend! It's probably once in a lifetime oppurtunities like this that has attracted star Italian Emanuele Sella to the show.
Section 3 - the journey north

The race heads northwards and along the coast for stage 7 through to 10 and there should be more chances for the sprinters to add to their stage collection. Roelandts could see himself challenged by riders like Michael Van Stayen who has the know how to win Grand Tour stages.
The one exception to sprinting is one of the longest team time trials seen in recent years starting at Valencia. Stage nine's 67.5km course will be a bit of a rude awakening for the climbers Jack Wolfskin have brought their elite chrono squad here purely for this.
Section 4 - The Pyrennes

The race enters the Pyrenees' as we go deep into the second week, we have a mountain top double header. The opener starts in Barcelona and heads up to the Col de Pal, which is where a young Alberto Contador made his name. A fair ly steep one by Pyrenean standards the 14km climb averages at a tasty 8%. The day's principal climb the day after see's the mountain top finish atop the Pas de la Casa a 25km brute averaging 5%. A real test of stamina and recovery for the riders before we enter the rolling Basque terrian.
Section 5 - Heading through the Basque

It will be interesting to see whether the sprinters teams have enough of squad intact to chase down breakaways as we head through a relatively flat three stages across the Basque region. Stage 14 see's us finish in Pamplona hometown of course of Miguel Indurain. You feel that breakaways may be given a chance and after making his name known in the Giro José Antonio Baños Ballester could look to light it up in his home tour.
Section 6 - the triple header

Three straight hard days await the riders as we head into the final week of racing.
Stage 16 has a real sting in its tail with four steep climbs in the last 50kms, finishing with a 5km 11% er. This one will perhaps favour the strongest team to make an elite selection before the last climb. It is well documented that Santander are bringing one of the strongest squads of Spanish racers ever assembled here. They will surely look to hurt their rivals today.
They will likely keep the pressure up on stage 17 which finishes on the Alto de Gamoniteiro another newcomer to the Vuelta from the Asturias region. The final climb is nearly 16km long and averages 9% with the worst near the top.
Stage 18 the riders will be on their own though as they ascend the ridiculous angliru solo in a mountain time trial. Will this monstrous climb be any easier on their own, probably not. It will be interesting to see how team-mates Justo Tenorio and Angel Madrazo compare.
Section 7 - homeward bound via Bolo del Mundo!

If any sprinters have survived they deserve a reward on stages 19 and 21, though there is always a chance the decimated pack will allow a break to go. There is a derth of Spanish sprinter here this year but by then Alejandro Valverde will probably be contesting the sprints given his powers of recovery.
Stage 20 see's one final chance you would think for a GC shuffle, as if the riders had not had enough we have the concrete steep finish of the Bolo del Mundo to suffer over.
Edited by SportingNonsense on 13-02-2012 16:46
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The squads
Home boys
Let's start with the home favourites.
Santander
1. A. Madrazo
2. D. Allonca
3. D. Arroyo
4. J. Del Nero
5. I. Erviti
6. E. Gonzalo
7. D. López Garcia
8. J. Tenorio
9. R. Valls
Spoiler Well after years in development the day of reckoning is finally here as 23 year old Justo Tenorio and 24 year old Angel Madrazo join forces to wreak havoc across this Spanish grand tour. Looking at last years results it may seem surprising that it seems likely that Madrazo will be team leader here. But as we know Madrazo has the potential to be one of the most feared climbers around.
Last year the duo raced on loan for protour teams Festina and Lafarge. Madrazo was used in last years Vuelta as a luxury domestique for Contador whereas Tenorio led the now defunct and then struggling Lafarge outfit. Tenorio has been in action this year and looked impressive when 3rd to Tour bound Pluchkin and Uran in Oman but less so recently in California. Perhaps the prospect of playing second fiddle to the man he beat in last years Tour de L'Avenir has dropped his morale?
The duo have brilliant climbing backup in the experienced Lopez Garcia, Arroyo and Gonzalo as well as another useful youngster in Valls. Erviti is here to relieve Tenorio and Madrazo from too much time trialling on stage 9, whilst Del Nero and Allonca are here no doubt to lead the first part of any chase.
Festina
11. A. Contador
12. M. Bernaudeau
13. T. Dees
14. K. Goddaert
15. D. Holloway
16. S. Morabito
17. R. Navardauskas
18. R. RodrÃguez Segarra
19. J. Serpa
Spoiler The seemingly cursed Festina squad will no doubt come here expecting the worst, but in reality you would have to think that Contador has at least a strong chance of making the podium. Of course no-one can compare with the supplies of the Santander squad but in Jose Serpa and decent enough climbers Morabito and Dees, Festina surely have enough to do something decent in the Vuelta.
But for whatever reason Contador seems to be stuck in a inferiority syndrome where he rarely is able to muster the strength to beat his peers. Alberto has yet to register a stage win or even a grand tour podium and now he has reached 30 years of age surely his ambitions are higher than stage wins at places like Romandie.
Festina have always looked hard into the tactical element of a race, here they bring three TT specialist in Bernaudeau, Goddaert and Navardauskas. Meanwhile sprinter/rouler Holloway should be useful and American will look to continue to develop into a superstar sprinter. A stage winner in the Vuelta last year Rafael Rodriguez Segarra gives the team some extra local knowledge, it has the look of a team that is here to compete.
Proximus
31. A. Valverde
32. M. Cavendish
33. M. De Maar
34. K. De Weert
35. V. Hacecký
36. D. Kopp
37. H. Ma
38. J. Mouris
39. Y. Stoltz
Spoiler The defending champion Valverde maybe a bit of a mercenery but few can deny that the rider has not had his share of success. The only previous Vuelta winner in the field he knows how to survive (and importantly stay on his bike) to win the race. The 'unbeatable' proved unbreakable in what was a mountainous profile last year when riding for Cafe de Colombia. When it comes to his team however it is difficult to see, team time trial excepted, how he can rely too heavily on them.
Mark Cavendish will clearly have his own ambitions having moved away from an underachieving year at 100% Me, the Brit has been fairly quiet up to now. Will he be around too much in the latter half of this race, probably not. Marc De Maar and Kevin De Weert should keep Valverde company to the finish of the race and are his best climbing support. Ma, Mouris and Hacecky just need to keep their strength for stage 9, David Kopp is here perhaps as leadout support for Cavendish whereas Stoltz is a rare development project by the team manager.
With little support one bad day will likely be all it takes to hurt Valverde, the Spaniard knows though if he can keep in touch his final kick is devstating so Valv.Piti cannot be ruled out.
Vesuvio
51. B. Intxausti
52. D. Claerebout
53. M. Ford
54. M. Iglinski
55. M. Kittel
56. M. Kvasina
57. M. Samwel
58. A. Stauff
59. D. Stundzia
Spoiler The feeling that last year was the big chance for 26 year old Intxuasti, but arguably last years performance where he spent a large portion of the race in the lead was better than his surprising second place to Andy Schleck in 2010. The Basque rider loves the long climbs and has a good catalogue of Grand Tour experiences now behind him.
It's a fine back up squad with Iglinski, Samwel, Kvasina and Claerebont to support him on the climbs and some time trialling back up in Ford, Kittel and Stundzia. Vesuvio as ever will be hunting a high finish, Intxausti possibly their best hope of picking up a grand tour win they will be going all out. Has looked as good as Contador on the climbs all season he will be on Santander's card as a threat.
UBS
71. J. Gomez Marchante
72. D. Champion
73. R. Chtioui
74. T. Frei
75. F. Marquez
76. C. Riblon
77. M. Richeze
78. F. Stalder
79. S. Zahner
Spoiler Having twice reached the podium in 2007 and 2010, Gomez Marchante decided to concentrate on the Tour de France last year. It didn't really work out for the much travelled Spanish climber, and this year he has slotted in with one of the few young Spanish climbers to miss the Santander radar in Florentino Marquez at UBS. The duo will look to crack the top ten and with Gomez Marchante's experience they could even surprise.
It's a decent squad with good climbing support from Riblon, Frei and Zahner and rolling support from Chtioui, Champion and Stalder. Argentine sprinter Richeze gets a go at a Grand Tour, though he has not been able to figure in ProTour sprints so far, he knows usually how to survive climbs and will be in the hunt.
This could be an important race for UBS, a successful one with a few stage wins and a couple of high GC finishes could keep them in a mid table position. Gomez Marchante showed in Oman he can live with the favourites when he came 5th in decent company, but equally struggled to establish himself more recently in Catalunya finishing 9th. It could go either way for him here in the Vuelta
Cafe de Colombia
91. D. Abal
92. A. Ardila Cano
93. J. Baños Ballester
94. S. Bennett
95. J. Castañeda
96. F. Perez Sanchez
97. W. RodrÃguez Parra
98. M. Rogers
99. C. Sarmiento
Spoiler Whilst it's the next big Grand Tour that we all know Cafe de Colombia is aiming for, hopes will be high that they can land a decent result here through David Abal. The young Spaniard was allowed to slip away from his loan period at Santander, giving them experience last year of carrying a team leader around the course. The then 25 year old finished 5th and won stage 18 which was seen as a pretty good debut for Santander.
There are question marks about Abal's ability to improve on that showing however and as a pretty ordinary 10th place at the Volta a Catalunya attests he has the capability of simply riding with the others. He will need to separate from the crowd if he is to go further up the standings. Four Colombians make up the the nine man squad, sprinter Castaneda will look to upset the big sprinting favourites, whereas youngsters Sarmiento and Rodriguez Parra like Irishman Sam Bennett are here for experience. Alex Ardilo Cano and Spanish veteren Perez Sanchez will offer Abal support in mountains. As will TT superstar Michael Rogers, who could fancy a crack at an early tilt in the res jersey himself.
The final name worth mentioning is Giro sensation Banos Ballester who took advantage of Cafe de Colombia's late re-entry into the Giro with a stunning batch of stage wins.
A bit like UBS you feel as if Cafe de Colombia really need to start getting some points on the board as we move through the months and races run out. The Colombians are pereliously allowing a big gap to appear ahead of them in the team standings, a stint in red, some stage wins and a good solid showing from Abal is the order of the day before the Tour de France build up.
Jack Wolfskin
101. R. Plaza
102. D. Cornu
103. K. De Kort
104. J. Donald
105. J. Posthuma
106. S. Rosseler
107. D. Van Winden
108. K. Vandewalle
109. B. Vaugrenard
Spoiler When it comes to the Vuelta Ruben Plaza has those solid dependable characteristics which has given him two podiums in 2009 and 2010 and a 4th place finish in 2011. There is nothing that fancy about Plaza's climbing which tends to be more grinding than anything else but he seems to know his limits and rarely blows up. These sorts of qualities make him consistent enough to keep high on GC without threatening the big favourites. He is also a very solid TTer which means the lack of ITT in this years edition is to his detriment.
Looking at the squad Jack Wolfskin have brought here, it seems to acknowledged the alteration on time trialling and they have gone all in on the big long team time trial. Cornu, Posthuma, Donald, Vandewalle, De Kort, Vaugranard, Rosseler and Van Winden have been enticed to come along and as long as they survive the southern mountains are going to be pretty much unstoppable come stage nine. Who knows Plaza could be in Red when we hit the Pyrenees.
Plaza will at least need that support of having the jersey because once the high climbs hit in the second week he is on his own. It's a bold plan from Jack Wolfskin, which could be a masterstroke or could blow spectacularly in their faces.
The foreign legion
On even calender years recently it has not been a Spanish rider winning the race and the Spanish riders will not necessarily have everything their own way again this year.
Webeffect
21. E. Sella
22. D. Appollonio
23. O. Avelino
24. T. Bontenackels
25. I. Camaño
26. T. Danielson
27. G. Gazvoda
28. V. Rodrigues
29. F. Silvestre
Spoiler Italian climber Emanuele Sella is one of the best climbers in the world and with Cunego spreading his wings to try out the Tour de France this year it is concievable that there could be an Italian winning all three grand tours! Sella has won outside of Italy before do at the 2010 Tour de Suisse and the 2011 Paris Nice.
The Italian has excellent back up in the mountains with the likes of the expereinced Camano and Danielson with the useful talents of Rodrigues who did well in the recent California race. Thomas Bontenackets and Gregor Gazvoda should ensure the team time trial is not a complete disaster with Avelino hoping to strike in the sprints particularly early on in Portugal.
It's always a longshot to win either the Giro or Vuelta as a foriegner as Sella well knows in the Italy, the profile of this Vuelta suits the Italian right down to the ground however with its lack of ITT kilometres. This is clearly the key part of Webeffects season and the lingering memories of the recent Giro should spur them on.
Wiggle
41. J. Popovych
42. I. Bibby
43. V. Bileka
44. T. Costagli
45. T. Diggle
46. T. Kritskiy
47. A. Kunshin
48. M. Rowe
49. P. Scarponi
Spoiler Wiggle have a bit of an Eastern European feel with on loan T.CS Bank men Kritskiy and Kunshin key lieutenants for Popovich. The Ukrainian had a storming Tour de France last year and this time has entered the Vuelta perhaps as preparation for that. That podium was a breakthrough for 'Popo' but found himself up for sale by a Carmuese manager looking for a younger model.
It's a strong back up squad from Wiggle with riders waiting to animate in the mountains with Bibby, Scarponi and Costagli awaiting the mountains. Tom Diggle had a good run in the King of the Mountains jersey in California and is probably the breakaway hope. Matt Rowe will try his luck at the sprints with Bileka a possible lead out rider.
With so many Spanish leaders it could be hard for Popovich to hold on to a high finish, he has support though so could still sneak a good top ten place.
Pearl
61. T. Machado
62. E. Berthou
63. T. Kangert
64. T. Leezer
65. J. Mendes
66. P. Panayotov
67. J. RodrÃguez
68. B. Samoilev
69. W. Walker
Spoiler Pearl Adidas are having a great season and prospects loock very good for the future too with Machado being one of two new stage racers they are hoping can step up to the plate. Machado has all the tools the problem I guess for the Portuguese rider is that he is up against a lot of Spanish riders.
Panayotv, Kangert, Samoilev and Rodriguez support Machado for the climbs with some really decent roulers in Walker, Leezer, Bertou and Mendes also. Any one of them could do well in a break so Pearl Adidas will hope they attack as well as defend Machado.
Them being one of the form teams you feel that Machado will surely crack a top ten perhaps taking one or two Spanish scalps along the way.
Nestlé
81. S. Denifl
82. Y. Delgado
83. D. Di Luca
84. M. Durán
85. P. Gretsch
86. N. Hoffman
87. D. Kupfernagel
88. D. Loosli
89. J. Maillet
Spoiler It's another more than decent climbing squad here and Nestle will be interested to see what their 25 year old Austrian climber can do on the Vuelta's climbs. A top ten is a realistic target for Denifl who has Maillet, Duran, Delgado, Du Luca and Loosli all here as support,. It'll be interesting to see whether that multipronged climber approach works.
South African sprinter Hoffman can survive climbs pretty well and may be one of those still around in the last week to give the flat stages a whirl, early on in the race Kupfernagel and sole chrono specialist Gretsch will be around to give the team a hand.
After team leader Tom Boonan's success in the cobbles this team seems to gain energy from that, if so Denifl may just surprise a few.
Sony
111. W. Pedraza
112. J. Danacik
113. P. Grillo
114. F. Johansson
115. S. Lang
116. C. Meyer
117. S. Pauwels
118. V. Renäng
119. A. Wetterhall
Spoiler Protour champions surprised here last year when Trofimov landed a battling 6th place, though Sony are hardly known as a Grand Tour GC team. Still they like to have at least one guy with a shot at the top ten and Pedraza represents South America's best chance of matching Rujano's podium of last year. The Colombian hacked his way round to 15th at the Tour last year but he may prefer the succession of mountain top finishes here.
Still it is going to be a long shot of making a high top ten, thought from this sqaud may be more toward doing something against the clock on stage 9. Sebastian Lang, Danacik, Johansson, Renang, Wetterhall, Pauwels and Meyer all are pretty good against the clock. They have also got a sprinter, though Grillo's inability to strike in his home tour hardly shouts him out as a favourite there.
A second top ten would be a massive success Sony with a rider like Pedraza who will only have Pauwels and Danacik to rely on in the mountains.
Pendleton's
121. D. Menchov
122. S. Cummings
123. P. Deignan
124. T. Faiers
125. J. Ji
126. M. Ladagnous
127. D. Millar
128. K. Siutsou
129. B. Wiggins
Spoiler Fifth in 2009, Denis Menchov brings Protour newcomers to the Vuelta with a leader to rally around, unfortunately as shown in the Giro the Russian does not have the legs to survive with the younger climbers these days. Still it is a decent back up squad that could easily take advantage of any crashes that may happen to deliver Denis to a decent result, but more likely the only chance of a win is if Menchov goes on a rare attack.
Siutsou, Faiers and Ji are decent back-up riders, Ji and Faiers may well be able to progress in the future. British chrono men Wiggins, Cummings and Millar will be looking forward to the team test where perhaps a podium is realistic. Irishman Deignan and Frenchman Lagdagnous look like classic breakaway men.
GC chances look bleak for Pendleton's but this may be the team that can profit hugely from breakaways.
The rest
Six other teams are here with remote GC possibilities and more likely hoping for a breakaway triumph or a victory on the flat out sprints.
Carmeuse
141. O. Solis
142. A. Aulas
143. S. Caethoven
144. B. Curfs
145. T. Gallopin
146. M. Kneisky
147. J. Roelandts
148. S. Vandousselaere
149. W. Weylandt
Spoiler Not every team can have a GC candidate and whilst Solis is a decent mountain man he often loses time on the flat so will be looking for a moment in the mountains to shine. The attention for this team is really on whether Roelandts can retain his points jersey and add to the two stage he won last year. Certainly his form in California suggest that the Belgian is in the mood with Weylandt added to Caethoven and Aulas in the sprint train, it could be tough for the other fast men to get a look in.
Other riders like Kneisky, Vandousselaere, Curfs and Gallopin are here for the experience.
Bacardi
171. S. Pardilla
172. I. Abakoumov
173. T. Butterfield
174. S. Kondrotas
175. A. Kruopis
176. M. Mugerli
177. E. Sokolov
178. F. Terciado
179. M. Van Stayen
Spoiler Terciado and Pardilla will probably look for something long range, though the succession of mountain top finishes are not really the best hope for doing that. It is Michael Van Stayen who demands attention though after two stage wins at last years tour ahead of Boonen and Bennati he is definately capable of taking some sprint in the Vuelta. The Belgian climbs pretty well too, mind you his only lead out guy Abakoumov is a bit suspect at getting over the mountains so come the pyrenees he may be on his own.
The others in the squad will look to loot the breakaways on the right days, a stage win is a realistic goal most likely though Van Stayen.
Wikipedia
161. C. Mai
162. C. Barton
163. B. Bookwalter
164. J. Decouttere
165. T. Farrar
166. R. Janse van Rensburg
167. C. Kelly
168. M. Sprick
169. J. Van Heerden
Spoiler A little like the Giro, there will be no apologies from Wikipedia that there are here for the sprints alone. Mai, Sprick and Barton will test themselves over the climbs but it is South African strongman Van Heerden who is the lead. He has a super lead-out in Farrar, which he seemed to lack a comprehensive rider for that in earlier races. Van Heerden is a bit suspect on the mountains after riding around the more lowlanded races in the CTour the last couple of years. Certainly though until the Pyrenees at least you'd expect Wikipedia to be looking for a sprint win.
Milka
151. T. Rohregger
152. M. Bouet
153. J. Coppel
154. T. De Gendt
155. J. Forero
156. Y. Hutarovich
157. R. Kreuziger
158. L. König
159. M. Vanderaerden
Spoiler A bit of a collection of all sorts from the Milka crew, with Coppel looking to challenge the best chrono men on the opening day possibly being the biggest target. Elsewhere there is a triple sprint threat through Forero, Vanderaerden and Hutarovich, a decent team time trial squad and a top 20 GC hope in Rohregger.
It though may well come down to whether Coppel wins the opening day, if not it could be a long tour, if so that could give the team a boost to go for breakaways again and again.
B&O
131. N. Keinath
132. M. Christensen
133. A. Grivko
134. C. Jørgensen
135. S. Kruijswijk
136. A. Rasmussen
137. M. Reckweg
138. J. Sagan
139. S. Stenersen
Spoiler May bleat on about Nico Keinath as a GC threat but on this type of profile the German's hopes look very remote indeed and a place inside the top twenty would be a triumph. This teams best hopes may well lie on stage 9 like a few others in the team time test. There is no big leader to the time trial squad but with 8 similarly match riders (Sagan is the exception) they may surprise a few.
Will hope to slot into as many breakaways as possible before the final week starts. Could be down to just a few riders in Madrid.
Spyker
181. J. Pecharroman
182. L. Bak
183. N. Edet
184. E. MartÃnez de Esteban
185. M. Reimer
186. N. Scheunemann
187. D. Teklehaimanot
188. E. Weiss
189. A. Zeits
Spoiler It is rare to see a team purely about experience and breakaways but here is such a team, Reimer, Bak and Weiss will be dangerous if they can infiltrate a break that lasts the distance. Pecharroman is probably the one that will try and get away on the harder mountain stages. Any points gained (other than for finishing) in this race will be a bonus for Spyker.
Warner Brothers
Barredo Carlos
Facci Mauro
Colom Mas Antonio
Sergent Jesse
Mayo Iban
Giraldo Alexander
Perez Fernandez Santiago
Van Houts Rudi
Rojas Villegas César
Spoiler With four Spanish veterans this is a team for the romantics and it may well be that one of them could land one last win to talk to their grandkids about. All nine riders could well get round the course including Kiwi youngsters Jesse Sergent who should make great leaps in his development being here. It's coming up to Warner Brothers big moment of the season the Tour de France defence some of the riders who de well here could well appear there too.
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Posted on 13-02-2012 15:11
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This is going to be a crazy race. Really, really hard course.
EDIT: Oh, and I almost forgot! Awesome preview, Smowz!
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Posted on 13-02-2012 15:13
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A MTT up the Angliru is just brutal. Great course preview Smowz!
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Posted on 13-02-2012 15:38
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Looking a bit outclassed here...hopefully can get a similar-ish GC result from Menchov as with the Giro...stage win would be very nice too.
Well done on the incredibly comprehensive preview Smowz, can't wait for the race.
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Hoping for a stage win indeed. Great preview!
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Posted on 13-02-2012 15:53
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Looking for a similarly strong team performance here as in the Giro. Look forward to seeing just how well/badly the team does in that long TTT. Hoping for at least a Top 10 from Popovych, and a few Top 5 stage results from breaks and sprints.
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Posted on 13-02-2012 16:29
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It would have been better if the TTT would have come sooner in the race. Still we should win a decent amount of time there over Plaza's main rivals. Still, with this year's route and startlist a top 5 would be a great result for our Spaniard.
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Great Preview. And should be a great race
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Really good preview, thanks for that. This is going to be one of the best races of the season. I have a podium goal here, but with the competition, I think top 5 is a bit more realistic for Gomez Marchante. I have to predict that Madrazo will destroy everyone, with no one coming close. Not concerned with Contador though because he will crash out early on.
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Posted on 13-02-2012 18:28
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Awesome preview, Smowz.
Looking forward to this one. The competition seems to be even better than in the Giro with Madrazo, Tenorio, Valverde, Contador...
Madrazo might be the biggest favourite here. Interesting to see how Sella can challenge him without having the National bonus like in the Giro. Wouldn`t be a big surprise if we see 7 Spaniard in the top 10.
I`m just a bit afraid of this variant as there are some really steep sections where favourites might lose contact from time to time without a real reason. Don`t know exactly if the climbs are narrow or normal roads right now.
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Posted on 13-02-2012 18:56
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Great preview!
My ambitions in this race are based mainly on Coppel, only the win in prologue and red jersey for a stage or two are good enough. Then Forero or Vanderaerden should try to do something in flat stages and we should have solid TTT as well. Should be a great race!
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Posted on 13-02-2012 21:10
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I am terrified of the TTT and the flat stages, but hopefully my team strength should put Madrazo at the front of every climb.
Stage 2 could easily cause trouble on the early hillys for a favourite.
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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Posted on 13-02-2012 21:39
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4 stages in Portugal? What was I thinking when I choosed the wildcards. Man I really wish I could change that decision. It'd be awesome to have my team here even though we wouldn't do much eheh.
Anyway the route is superb, I'm hoping for some great racing here.
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Posted on 13-02-2012 22:57
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Cool preview.
Bit gutted that the competition is quite so intense. Had hoped Abal might be able to get on to the podium but will be very tough.
Hope Mike Rogers can beat Coppel and get himself into the leaders jersey. Stage 9 going to be really interesting. I've got 5 riders with 70+ on TT, but I doubt the weaker ones will be able to stay with Rogers for the full 60 odd kilometers. |
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Posted on 14-02-2012 08:01
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On paper this should be a good race for us, but then again. A lot of others should have been also, including the Giro.
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Posted on 14-02-2012 08:14
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Have there ever been any team with a stronger lineup for a single race than Santander got here?
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Posted on 14-02-2012 11:15
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Heine wrote:
Have there ever been any team with a stronger lineup for a single race than Santander got here?
I would say the year where Cunego had Di Luca, Michael Rogers and Bennati + some other good riders was better.
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Posted on 14-02-2012 11:22
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The team from Giro d'Italia 2010 (I think)
La Gazzetta dello Sport:
Damiano Cunego
Danilo Di Luca
Alexandre Vinokourov
Daniele Bennati
Michael Rogers
David de la Fuente
Joost Posthuma
Sergio Marinangeli
Sylvester Szmyd
I doubt we will ever see a team that dominant again.
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Even Vesuvio in the strongest possible lineup would have a hard time beating this lineup.
Damiano Cunego > Frank Schleck
Danilo Di Luca > Rigoberto Urán
Alexandre Vinokourov = Benat Intxausti
Daniele Bennati > Ben Swift
Michael Rogers > Marcel Kittel
David de la Fuente = Maxim Iglinskiy
Joost Posthuma >= Michael Ford
Sergio Marinangeli > Nico Schinker
Sylvester Szmyd < Mwangi Samwel
I know SN could have put in riders such as Hoogerland, Paterski and Mehr-Wenige, but I had to use the same rider types. I don't recall whether or not La Gazzetta also had a few puncheurs not attending the race.
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Posted on 14-02-2012 11:30
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Yes, they were dominant, because they were more complete. They were able to win mountain, hilly, flat and time - trial stages. Not to mention the whole Giro.
But when it comes to supporting the leader, Santander are a bit better I think. They are definitely not as complete as La Gazzetta were but they should do a hell of a job when it comes to protecting Madrazo in the mountains.
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