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Good Value cobbler..!
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| toddyvegas |
Posted on 14-09-2011 09:34
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Hi guys, still in my first ever season of PCM and loving it!
I am playing custom career and had no idea what was in store with the cobbled races. I must admit, they are superb fun and I even managed to sneak a win in one with my sprinter, Rojas! However, my best cobbler is rated 69 and to be fair, u have a cat in hells chance most of the time..
So anyway, my question. If you were to sign say 3 riders who can compete in the cobbled classics but also be useful in other races ie climbers or sprinters AND on a reasonable budget, who would you recommend?
Try and keep their wages below 15k if possible?
I would be grateful and most interested in
more experienced players thoughts! |
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| miggi133 |
Posted on 14-09-2011 10:26
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toddyvegas wrote:
Hi guys, still in my first ever season of PCM and loving it!
I am playing custom career and had no idea what was in store with the cobbled races. I must admit, they are superb fun and I even managed to sneak a win in one with my sprinter, Rojas! However, my best cobbler is rated 69 and to be fair, u have a cat in hells chance most of the time..
So anyway, my question. If you were to sign say 3 riders who can compete in the cobbled classics but also be useful in other races ie climbers or sprinters AND on a reasonable budget, who would you recommend?
Try and keep their wages below 15k if possible?
I would be grateful and most interested in
more experienced players thoughts!
Scherilynkx from Verandas Willems would be a good option.
But for a low budget you will most likely only find specialists. However Enrico Franzoi (if he is in the 2011 DB) is an ok cobbler and brilliant leadout man and hayden Roulston is a rider who can go for wins if there is a weaker field.
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| dienblad |
Posted on 14-09-2011 11:03
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I'd say, look in the smaller Belgian teams (Landbouwkrediet & Willems Veranda's) for the riders you want. Or Tom Veelers from Skil, Jens Keukeleire (I think Cofidis).
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 14-09-2011 11:19
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Mathew Hayman or Lief Hoste, they should be under $15,000.
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| andy222c |
Posted on 14-09-2011 11:35
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Gregory Rast as allround helper and Kevyn Ista who can win smaller races with his allround abillities and good sprinting.
As @Dienblad said, Keukeleire, I would also recommend.
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| toddyvegas |
Posted on 14-09-2011 12:57
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Brilliant! Thanks for the tips guys! Anymore from anyone?
Also, how do you attack the cobbled sections? Their heart rate goes mental, so I was dropping the workrate to around 45. Right way to do it or do u just have to take the stamina hit? |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 14-09-2011 13:06
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Marko Kump (Geox - TMC) is a good young cobbler (develops into 80+ often) with a reasonable sprint (~74), at least that's what the db makes out of him.
Your strategy is pretty much the right one, lower the effort about 40 compared to normal roads (30 is solid, 40 high, 50 only in the last parts).
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| toddyvegas |
Posted on 14-09-2011 13:26
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Thanks for your advice. I have found these races to be really interesting. Always fun when the peleton breaks up. Inlike the sound of a decent cobbler who can lead out my sprinters. I have a severe lack of those.. Do you guys think breakaways are the way to go on these or just hold your own in the smallish group that forms? |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 14-09-2011 14:34
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Topsport Vlaanderen have quite a few of the kind of rider that you're after. Pieter Jacobs can be pretty good in that terrain, and can be an all-round domestique for you. Pieter Vanspeybrouck is another young talent with stong potential.
Bobbie Traksel from Landbouwkrediet is another good purchase because he is will be a great domestique in all sorts of terrain, and can even put in a decent sprint at the end of a race.
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| The-Pot |
Posted on 14-09-2011 15:00
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toddyvegas wrote:
Thanks for your advice. I have found these races to be really interesting. Always fun when the peleton breaks up. Inlike the sound of a decent cobbler who can lead out my sprinters. I have a severe lack of those.. Do you guys think breakaways are the way to go on these or just hold your own in the smallish group that forms?
If your rider is a good sprinter, you should be able to win the sprint against a few riders, if he isn't, you must break away (try to break the group on the last few meters of the last cobble sections by increasing a bit the pace and if necessary, attack on the last kilometers). |
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| toddyvegas |
Posted on 14-09-2011 15:18
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I have to say, I am loving this thread! Can't wait to get home and scout out some of these guys.. I am tempted to try and sign 4or 5 for the new season and have a real go at the classics
So, if I was to mount a serious challenge in some of the big name classic races, who's the best rider to go for as a cobbled team leader? Bare in mind I don't want to spend too much, maybe around 30k max for someone? |
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| ruben |
Posted on 14-09-2011 15:20
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I usually see who wins RVV u23 and Paris Roubaix u23 (or one who performs well in both). Usually turns out into a top cobble racer within short time if you train him well |
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| Roarioum |
Posted on 16-09-2011 17:41
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The northern classics, maybe the most fun to win. In the hilly classics like welwegen you can trick in wins with "lesser" cobblers, by going in front and going away in the none cobbel aras, building enough lead before the last cobled strech to go easy up, and going away after cobbles for win. BUT for the big one, the hell of the north (Paris-Robaix) you can only win with a class act. in this race thre are so many cobbled sections you cant set performance down on cobbles, you need a good enough rider that can sit in front of pelatonwhen the goin get tough and still have strenght left to attack or counter attack on last 25 km when the favorites go all out. and its NOT enough with the potensial winner, he NEED a good helper, that can use hes strengt to get food up to leader even in a hard pace on cobbles, you cant use leader to gert hes own food on last 1/3 of race, take to much energy, and if pelaton breakls, its all over baby blue....
Il recomend getting 1 top rider, like Cancellara or Offredo, they cost 75kish/month, but they are strong enough to win many races trough the season to be worth the cost. If that is out of the question, send 2-3 scouts to flandern and the sourounding area, if ure lucky, you will find the next northern legend, this will take 3-5 seasons, but nothing taste like victory with a rider u found, trained, and developed to be a top rider. |
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| Olinho |
Posted on 16-09-2011 21:39
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Brschel also becomes a very useful cyclist to win the cobble-races in your second season. And he's the perfect helper in your first and if you play it well, maybe a winner.
I don't know how much his salary is but if I remember correctly, it isn't that much. |
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| AndySchleck |
Posted on 16-09-2011 21:51
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What about Guldhammer? He became 80 COB in my game  |
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