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Cycling Women - Equality
arkaitzvdb
Posted on 04-11-2010 17:18
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You think that the UCI and the organizers of the Tour, Giro and Vuelta should also commit to organize races for female calendar.
For example, in the Spanish calendar is 4 races Pro Tour: Clasica San Sebastian, Vuelta al PaÃs-Vasco, Volta a Catalunya and La Vuelta ... and I think that at least these tests should have their "equivalent femnino, a Clasica San Sebastian where traveling on the last 130 km of the men '(as happened in the Primavera Rosa, who was a Milan-San Remo female), a Turn the Basque Country, 4 stages (although it is done: the Emmakumen Bira), a Volta a Catalunya Women's with 5 stages, and a Vuelta a España with 10 stages (or 14 stages)
I know that this is only fantasy, but I think it is a commitment that we should ask both the UCI and the different organizers
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the_hoyle
Posted on 04-11-2010 17:42
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a women's tour de france and giro d'italia equivalent already exist. here's your proof:
https://en.wikiped...e_France_F éminin
https://en.wikiped..._Femminile
ok they arent 3 weeks long, but there do exist
a.s.o also organise other woman cycling event. tour of qatar for example off the top of my head
Edited by the_hoyle on 04-11-2010 18:21
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kumazan
Posted on 04-11-2010 18:19
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Of course, those races should exist, and not in the very poor and disorganised way they do (mostly) now.
But they won't until they are profitable.
doddy13
Posted on 04-11-2010 19:31
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There are several very well organised women's races, but the media coverage has to improve before profitability and equality arrives.
(FYI. The Tour of Flanders for Women which I saw this year was very well organised)
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kumazan
Posted on 04-11-2010 19:56
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It's not me who say that those races lack a lot of organization in comparison with men's, but the cyclists. Of course, there are some very well organized and awesome races, but there's still a lot of job to do at all levels. And I included media coverage in 'organization', but I admit it's not very correct to do so.
Still, it's not profitable to broadcast women sports, except for a few countries. The problem isn't in cycling, or in sport, it goes beyond that.
rjc_43
Posted on 04-11-2010 20:03
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The majority of people who watch sport, I suspect, is with males. Males, as much as we fantasize about watching fit women do sport, aren't really willing to watch, and bet, on women's sports. To be perfectly blunt, it's slower (in a cycling context), and any accidents really make me want to cry.
There's a whole host of reasons why male governed sports will never see an equality with regard women to women in the same sport.
Agree, or not, but the only way you will change things is to get in the governing bodies of the sport at the highest level to get things moving. Even then, I suspect you will find little willingness to change.
Plus, to put my own view across, I couldn't really give a hoot about watching womens sports outside of a major competition. And no, I don't count the females Tour de France as a major competition. I suspect my own views are reflected across a majority of males.
It's similar in a way to me watching golf. It's not that I don't like golfers (or women), I just prefer to watch something else in my free time. Male cycling vs. Female cycling - male cycling wins hands down.
So, as kumazan said, it just isn't ever going to be profitable over males sports to sponsor a womens cycling team. And as we see it's so difficult to get sponsors for cycling teams anyway, well, there ain't no chance of equality (which is bollocks anyway as equality just doesn't exist - nor should it.)
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itsmichael
Posted on 04-11-2010 20:55
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hmm when i look to the calender i see:
January
Jayco Bay Cycling Classic (Australia)
February
Tour of Qatar (Qatar)
Tour of New-Zealand (New-Zealand
Omloop het Nieuwsblad (Belgium)
Mars
Setmana Ciclista Valenciana (Spain)
Trofeo Alfreda Binda (Italia)
Rund um Rhede (Germany)
Dolmans Heuvelland Classic (Netherlands)
Gp Féminin De Chambéry (France)
Cholet Pays de Loire (France)
Omloop van het Hageland (Belgium)
Gp Comune Di Cornaredo (Italia)
April
Grand Prix de Suisse (Suisse)
Gracia - Orlova (Chechz)
Gp Stad Roeselare (Belgium)
Gp Liberazione (italia)
Omloop Van Borsele (Netherlands)
La Flèche Wallonne Féminine (Belgium)
Ronde Van Gelderland (Netherlands)
Eurocup Ronde Van Drenthe (Netherlands)
Worldcup Ronde Van Drenthe (Netherlands)
8 Van Dwingeloo (Netherlands)
Grand Prix De Dottignies (Belgium)
Ronde Van Vlaanderen (Belgium)
.
Mai
Cologne Classic (Germany)
Tour de l'Aude Cycliste Féminin (France)
Tour Of Chongming Island World Cup (China)
Tour of Chongming Island (China)
Gp Mameranus (Luxembourg)
Grand Prix Elsy Jacobs (Luxembourg
.
June
Therme Kasseienomloop (Belgium)
Liberty Classic (USA)
Gp Ciudad De Valladolid (Spain)
Durango-durango Emakumeen Saria (Spain)
Chrono Gatineau (Canada)
Grand Prix Cycliste De Gatineau (Canada)
Iurreta-Emakumeen Bira (Spain)
Rabo Ster Zeeuwsche Eilanden (Netherlands)
Giro del Trentino (Italia)
.
July
U6 Cycle Tour (Sweden)
Giro d'Italia (Italia)
Tour Feminin (Chechz)
Gp Cento Carnevale D'europa (Italia)
Dwars Door De Westhoek (Belgium)
International Thüringen Rundfahrt (Germany)
Tour Féminin en Limousin (France)
Open De Suède Vargarda Ttt (Sweden)
.
August
Open De Suède Vargarda (Sweden)
Sparkassen Giro Bochem (Germany)
Parkhotel Rooding Hills Classic (Netherlands)
La Route de France (France)
Gp De Plouay - Bretagne (France)
Trophée d'Or Féminin (France)
Profile Ladies Tour (also September) (Netherlands)
.
September
Memorial Davide Fardelli (Italia)
Tour Cycliste Féminin (France)
Chrono Champenois - Trophée Européen (France)
Giro della Toscana (Italia)
Herald Sun Cycling Classic (Australia)
.
October
Chrono Des Nations (France)
Why more races?
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the_hoyle
Posted on 04-11-2010 21:14
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itsmichael wrote:
hmm when i look to the calender i see:
January
Jayco Bay Cycling Classic (Australia)
February
Tour of Qatar (Qatar)
Tour of New-Zealand (New-Zealand
Omloop het Nieuwsblad (Belgium)
Mars
Setmana Ciclista Valenciana (Spain)
Trofeo Alfreda Binda (Italia)
Rund um Rhede (Germany)
Dolmans Heuvelland Classic (Netherlands)
Gp Féminin De Chambéry (France)
Cholet Pays de Loire (France)
Omloop van het Hageland (Belgium)
Gp Comune Di Cornaredo (Italia)
April
Grand Prix de Suisse (Suisse)
Gracia - Orlova (Chechz)
Gp Stad Roeselare (Belgium)
Gp Liberazione (italia)
Omloop Van Borsele (Netherlands)
La Flèche Wallonne Féminine (Belgium)
Ronde Van Gelderland (Netherlands)
Eurocup Ronde Van Drenthe (Netherlands)
Worldcup Ronde Van Drenthe (Netherlands)
8 Van Dwingeloo (Netherlands)
Grand Prix De Dottignies (Belgium)
Ronde Van Vlaanderen (Belgium)
.
Mai
Cologne Classic (Germany)
Tour de l'Aude Cycliste Féminin (France)
Tour Of Chongming Island World Cup (China)
Tour of Chongming Island (China)
Gp Mameranus (Luxembourg)
Grand Prix Elsy Jacobs (Luxembourg
.
June
Therme Kasseienomloop (Belgium)
Liberty Classic (USA)
Gp Ciudad De Valladolid (Spain)
Durango-durango Emakumeen Saria (Spain)
Chrono Gatineau (Canada)
Grand Prix Cycliste De Gatineau (Canada)
Iurreta-Emakumeen Bira (Spain)
Rabo Ster Zeeuwsche Eilanden (Netherlands)
Giro del Trentino (Italia)
.
July
U6 Cycle Tour (Sweden)
Giro d'Italia (Italia)
Tour Feminin (Chechz)
Gp Cento Carnevale D'europa (Italia)
Dwars Door De Westhoek (Belgium)
International Thüringen Rundfahrt (Germany)
Tour Féminin en Limousin (France)
Open De Suède Vargarda Ttt (Sweden)
.
August
Open De Suède Vargarda (Sweden)
Sparkassen Giro Bochem (Germany)
Parkhotel Rooding Hills Classic (Netherlands)
La Route de France (France)
Gp De Plouay - Bretagne (France)
Trophée d'Or Féminin (France)
Profile Ladies Tour (also September) (Netherlands)
.
September
Memorial Davide Fardelli (Italia)
Tour Cycliste Féminin (France)
Chrono Champenois - Trophée Européen (France)
Giro della Toscana (Italia)
Herald Sun Cycling Classic (Australia)
.
October
Chrono Des Nations (France)
Why more races?
not many races for these lady types then!
Edited by the_hoyle on 04-11-2010 21:15
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Racerdude
Posted on 05-02-2011 17:09
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Being in the states, it's so hard to even find cycling on TV. I've only ever seen one female cycling race on TV. True, at first I watched for 'entertainment' reasons, but I then began to notice I was being enthused as the pace was increased in preperation for the final sprint. I found the same competitive enjoyment out of female cycling then I have male cycling. If they would just show the sport more, then I think female cycling would get an increase in attendance.
PremierRus91
Posted on 23-02-2011 16:53
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Edited by PremierRus91 on 23-02-2011 17:01
Jonathan
Posted on 23-02-2011 19:30
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Hahaha, is this real?
Dont know why this is posted in the woman - equality topic, or do I?
Edited by Jonathan on 23-02-2011 19:31
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