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| Cycleman123 |
Posted on 29-03-2014 05:22
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atlanta wrote:
yates is better than kelderman.
You're kidding, right? 
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 29-03-2014 05:41
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atlanta wrote:
yates is better than kelderman.
gallopin is better then Cancellara is basically what you're saying
Edit: Wait I want to win the TDf and Paris Roubaix with Gallopin so why doesnt he have a 85 TT, 85 mountains and an 85 Cob 
Edited by maxime86 on 29-03-2014 05:42
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| atlanta |
Posted on 29-03-2014 05:59
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Dude my comment of Valverde was a joke i no he dont deserve high cobble, but clearly Yates looks super promising so far. If he as 6 potential i think he should be 7. But i dont mind i could always do it myself even though i dont need change stats. |
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 29-03-2014 06:14
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atlanta wrote:
Dude my comment of Valverde was a joke i no he dont deserve high cobble, but clearly Yates looks super promising so far. If he as 6 potential i think he should be 7. But i dont mind i could always do it myself even though i dont need change stats.
okay so did you mean it when you said Yates is better then Kelderman?
because thats what you said I couldnt tell if it was a joke or not |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 29-03-2014 08:10
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Dude... Really? 
Edited by Jesleyh on 29-03-2014 08:13
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| Cycleman123 |
Posted on 29-03-2014 08:25
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Was waiting for you 
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| YvesStevens |
Posted on 29-03-2014 08:29
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I guess that Yates is better than Kelderman,  |
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| ruben |
Posted on 29-03-2014 10:56
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atlanta wrote:
yates is better than kelderman.
And Gesink is better than Froome.
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| Cycleman123 |
Posted on 29-03-2014 11:00
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Don't forget. Goss is better than Cavendish and Evans is better than Quintana
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| Anderis |
Posted on 29-03-2014 11:51
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https://www.procyc...14_Stage_1
Looks like another confirmation of what I was writing about yesterday: Haas deserves way more than 65 sprint. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 29-03-2014 12:00
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Agreed.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 29-03-2014 13:17
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Jesleyh wrote:
Farrar is placed on 73 CoB atm.
He he were to perhaps do well in the other Flemish classic tomorrow for instance that would be moved up to 74, right?
Ruben you can't really say that because Gesink is just an upcoming talent so he still has to reach his full potential.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 29-03-2014 19:00
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Depends. If it's a group of 70 guys sprinting, then not. If it's a group of 5, then probably yes
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 30-03-2014 02:02
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Okay as a fanboy of Gallopin I feel like its my spot to ask,
Dont you guys think gallopin now deserves a stat bump?
I mean look:
notable 2014 results
10th - GC Paris Nice
8th - Paris Nice Stage 6
7th - Paris Nice stage 5
7th - Etoile de Bessèges Stage 5 (ITT)
6th - Paris Nice Stage 7
5th - Oman Stage 4
3rd - Etoile de Bessèges Stage 4
and finally he finished 6th in E3
also lets not forget his Clasica Ciclista San Sebastian victory last year
I was thinking a 75hill, 76 cob (at least), 75 Sprint, 76-78Flat
what do you guys think?
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 30-03-2014 02:07
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I don't see him as deserving at least 76 cob for 1 result. His next best result in a cobbles race is 24th 2 years ago. He only even did that well from attacking a fairly large group. Don't see how he deserves more than Farrar even based on results. So what, like a 73?
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 30-03-2014 05:53
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baseballlover312 wrote:
I don't see him as deserving at least 76 cob for 1 result. His next best result in a cobbles race is 24th 2 years ago. He only even did that well from attacking a fairly large group. Don't see how he deserves more than Farrar even based on results. So what, like a 73?
okay all of last year in the classsic season he was sick so i think you can throw that out the window
okay maybe he doesnt deserve a 76 but I think he deserves a 74 and Farrar deserves a 73 as Gallopin is a better cobbler then Farrar from what I've seen.
Edit: And when was the last time Farrar finish high in a cobbled race? (Dwars door Vlaanderen doesnt really count as it was a small bunch sprint)
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 30-03-2014 10:23
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Gallopin was already bumped to 74 COB, Alak and I thought that was enough fkr now.
Not sure if more is necassary, I'll check that, ~77FL & 75 HI definitely seems to generous though.
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 30-03-2014 14:55
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Jesleyh wrote:
Gallopin was already bumped to 74 COB, Alak and I thought that was enough fkr now.
Not sure if more is necassary, I'll check that, ~77FL & 75 HI definitely seems to generous though.
Why? Look at his finishes in Oman and the classica San Sebastián in the last few years |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 30-03-2014 14:59
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75HI might not be ridiculous, but combined with 77FL, Gallopin would be way overpowered. Is there any reason why his flat stat should be that high? I mean, if Gallopin already deserves 76-78 FL, then someone like f.e. Bennett should have 79.
Realize that 78 FL is what Phinney, Kittel & Vanmarcke have
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 30-03-2014 15:02
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Jesleyh wrote:
75HI might not be ridiculous, but combined with 77FL, Gallopin would be way overpowered. Is there any reason why his flat stat should be that high? I mean, if Gallopin already deserves 76-78 FL, then someone like f.e. Bennett should have 79.
Realize that 78 FL is what Phinney, Kittel & Vanmarcke have
Oh crap I didn't realize that, I guess you're probably right about his flat stat
I didn't check the DB for his potential but In the 2013 db it was low in my opinion (I think it was a 5) |
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