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| atlanta |
Posted on 21-03-2014 01:49
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If he beats Froome in Catalunya i said, and he should be 81 atleast he is far better this year im not even a Contador fan im a Froome fan |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 21-03-2014 06:23
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atlanta wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
It's Tirreno, not the TdF, Atlanta.
Putting Contador on 82 is definitely too much. I doubt Quintana was in top-form.
Were did i say put him on 82 after Tirreno Jesleyh?
I meant that even after he wins Catalunya, I doubt he'd already deserve 82 
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 21-03-2014 07:46
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About Contador I think we should wait for Catalonia. His form will have dropped a little so his duel vs Froome will show if he deserves 81 or 82 in Mountain. |
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 21-03-2014 08:03
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I was wondering whether Kwiatkowski really deserves 76 in Mountains. He was in good shape but lost a lot in stage 6 and struggled a lot the previous one unlike Kiserlovski(also 76) . I'd say 74 max but definitely not 76. |
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| Cossack |
Posted on 21-03-2014 08:39
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On the other hand 76 is perfectly justified by his TdF performance, no chance to repeat it with 74 MO.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 21-03-2014 11:27
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74 is definitely too low.
I'd say 76 is fine.
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 21-03-2014 13:00
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I'd say 76 is perfect for Kwiatkowski as well. Riders of 76 mountain stats are worthy of a top 10 finish in week long stage races and a top 20 finish in the grand tours and that is what Kwiatkowski is when talking about his ability as a stage race rider. If he were put at 74 then he becomes no more than just a climbing domestique or a rider capable of grabbing a stage victory in the breakaway and he's clearly better than that, despite that the fact that he's really a classics rider. |
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| atlanta |
Posted on 27-03-2014 08:27
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When is Valverde getting his increase incobbles then guys surely he deserves 75 i mean i want to win de Ronde with him. |
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| atlanta |
Posted on 27-03-2014 08:28
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Adam yates give him 8 potential too easily best ride of yesterday in Catalunya. Next Sky TDF winner lol.
Sarcasm my friend trust you though to no like a talent not named Kelderman. Yates as been impressive from the very start. Should be 7 and will see hw he goes. What is he 6, 7?
Kelderman was nowere today bye the way i said yesterday i was not that impressive look at the climb and pace,
I think Kelderman shoould be dropped to 4 potentian is about right mate.
Edited by atlanta on 28-03-2014 07:02
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 27-03-2014 15:09
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Adam Yates 8 potential? Really?
Don't think so.
Valv is on 67 COB right now. Might get higher, depending on E3. But realise that the HI stat is important in RvV as well, and Valv will get a huge advantage there.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 27-03-2014 16:05
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atlanta wrote:
When is Valverde getting his increase incobbles then guys surely he deserves 75 i mean i want to win de Ronde with him.
Ah yes, what you want to win is of course relevant for making a realistic database 
I upped him from 62 to 68 in my DB, but we'll be able to tell more after E3
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 27-03-2014 16:40
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Ollfardh wrote:
atlanta wrote:
When is Valverde getting his increase incobbles then guys surely he deserves 75 i mean i want to win de Ronde with him.
Ah yes, what you want to win is of course relevant for making a realistic database
I upped him from 62 to 68 in my DB, but we'll be able to tell more after E3
I want to win the TdF with Kelderman.
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| weirdskyfan64 |
Posted on 27-03-2014 17:05
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Jesleyh wrote:
I want to win the TdF with Kelderman.
Never gonna happen if Contabeef, Froome and Nibali are on the scene. Maybe 33, but definitely not 23.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 27-03-2014 17:11
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Did you really take it seriously? 
I posted that to show that 'I want to win 'race x' with 'rider y', therefore he should be better' doesn't make sense
And 27 maybe?
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 27-03-2014 21:47
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When are recent races going to be taken into account as I think some riders should be upped as soon as possible. Tejay, Contador, Valverde... I think they've made quite a big progress compared to last year, and should be given some points on certain stats. And to those who say it's too early in the season to make big conclusions, take a look at last year, from the beginning of the season there were almost only Nibali and Froome. |
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 27-03-2014 23:19
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atlanta wrote:
When is Valverde getting his increase incobbles then guys surely he deserves 75 i mean i want to win de Ronde with him.
Years ago it was sometimes common for non cobbled specialists to win the Ronde such as Bugno, Bartoli and Sorensen back in the 90s but that was on the old classic route. Since then it's only ever been won by cobbled specialist and putting Valverde on 75 cobbles probably wouldn't win him a Ronde in the game either, not unless he's on really top form and you ride a great race. |
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| Anderis |
Posted on 28-03-2014 22:36
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I think Farrar is on his way to deserve more than 70 cobble. I'm not sure if 76 sprint wouldn't be more appropriate than 77, though.
When I was searching American riders with the most climbing, it struck me how many absoulute no-names had better MO than Caleb Fairly. He had a couple of decent performances on hilly/montanous stages in last year's Vuelta. Definetely deserves more than 64. Maybe not 7x, but high 6x definetely.
I also don't understand why Nathan Haas only has 65 sprint. He beat Goss on a flat finish for a victory in stage 1 of Herald Sun Tour. He also had top10 finishes on a flat TdU stages. I think he deserves low 7x in sprint. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 28-03-2014 22:41
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Yeah. I'd think 76 sprint for sure. 77 is too much. But definitely higher cobble. Like 74 at least. I'd go 75 or if he performs int he rest of the classics, even 76.
After all, according to my PCM 11 Expansion pack game in 2015 he will be 79 cobble.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-03-2014 22:46
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Farrar is placed on 73 CoB atm.
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| atlanta |
Posted on 29-03-2014 05:19
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yates is better than kelderman. |
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