|
Other Races 2013
|
| wogsrus |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:05
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1200
Joined: 12-01-2013
PCM$: 200.00
|
Dont understand why Froome attacked Porte. Bit of a dog act really. Making a habit of putting himself infront of the team.... |
| |
|
|
| Alakagom |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:07
|
World Champion
Posts: 10891
Joined: 19-11-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
wogsrus wrote:
Dont understand why Froome attacked Porte. Bit of a dog act really. Making a habit of putting himself infront of the team....
He didn't attack as such. Froome was stronger. Pulled away and when he saw he had a gap he just continued it. He was stronger than Porte, no point waiting.
Edited by Alakagom on 24-03-2013 22:08
|
| |
|
|
| wogsrus |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:33
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1200
Joined: 12-01-2013
PCM$: 200.00
|
Porte pulled back 25 seconds in the 2nd last kilometre. Hardly call him stronger.... |
| |
|
|
| chrica04 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:37
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 853
Joined: 23-10-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
wogsrus wrote:
Porte pulled back 25 seconds in the 2nd last kilometre. Hardly call him stronger....
I highly doubt Froome was gassing the last 1-2kms, especially if he knew it was only Porte behind. |
| |
|
|
| ppanther |
Posted on 24-03-2013 23:06
|
Domestique
Posts: 482
Joined: 25-12-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Here are the results of some races, ended today:
Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali
1 Diego Ulissi (Ita) Lampre-Merida 14:15:12
2 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Merida 0:01:35
3 Miguel Angel Rubiano Chavez (Col) Androni Giocattoli 0:01:48
4 Ivan Basso (Ita) Cannondale Pro Cycling 0:01:59
5 Riccardo Zoidl (AUT) Team Gourmetfein Simplon 0:02:09
6 Leopold König (Cze) Team NetApp-Endura 0:02:14
7 Francesco Manuel Bongiorno (Ita) Bardiani Valvole-CSF Inox 0:02:36
8 Davide Rebellin (Ita) CCC Polsat Polkowice 0:02:41
9 Sergio Pardilla Bellon (Esp) MTN-Qhubeka 0:03:11
10 Fabio Taborre (Ita) Vini Fantini-Selle Italia 0:03:19
11 Philip Deignan (Irl) UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling Team 0:03:27
12 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Androni Giocattoli 0:03:36
13 Carlos Julian Quintero (Col) Colombia 0:03:47
14 Radoslav Rogina (Cro) Adria Mobil 0:04:26
15 José Joao Pimenta Costa Mendes (Por) Team NetApp-Endura 0:05:13
16 Emanuele Sella (Ita) Androni Giocattoli 0:05:22
17 Jan Barta (Cze) Team NetApp-Endura 0:05:30
18 Lucas Euser (USA) UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling Team 0:05:49
19 Tanel Kangert (Est) Astana Pro Team 0:05:51
20 Lukas Pöstlberger (AUT) Team Gourmetfein Simplon 0:06:13
Critérium International
1 Christopher FROOME SKY PROCYCLING 06:55:23
2 Richie PORTE SKY PROCYCLING 00:00:32
3 Tejay VAN GARDEREN BMC RACING TEAM 00:00:54
4 Bauke MOLLEMA BLANCO PRO CYCLING TEAM 00:01:00
5 Jean-Christophe PERAUD AG2R LA MONDIALE 00:01:00
6 Andrew TALANSKY GARMIN - SHARP 00:01:08
7 Maxime BOUET AG2R LA MONDIALE 00:01:33
8 Pierrick FEDRIGO FDJ 00:01:37
9 Johann TSCHOPP IAM CYCLING 00:01:43
10 John GADRET AG2R LA MONDIALE 00:02:05
11 Andréas KLÖDEN RADIOSHACK LEOPARD 00:02:06
12 Romain BARDET AG2R LA MONDIALE 00:02:18
13 Davide MALACARNE TEAM EUROPCAR 00:02:21
14 Jérôme COPPEL COFIDIS, SOLUTIONS CREDITS 00:02:33
15 Michael ROGERS TEAM SAXO-TINKOFF 00:02:43
16 Amaël MOINARD BMC RACING TEAM 00:03:19
17 Bob JUNGELS RADIOSHACK LEOPARD 00:03:30
18 Marcel WYSS IAM CYCLING 00:03:31
19 Maxime MONFORT RADIOSHACK LEOPARD 00:03:51
20 Jonathan HIVERT SOJASUN 00:04:35
Tour de Taiwan
1 Bernard Sulzberger (Aus) DRAPAC Cycling 18:44:14
2 Tsgabu Grmay (Eth) MTN Qhubeka 0:00:24
3 Kirill Pozdnyakov (Rus) Synergy Baku Cycling Project Team 0:00:25
4 Louis Meintjes (RSA) MTN Qhubeka 0:00:28
5 Nathan Earle (Aus) Huon Salmon-Genesys Wealth Adviser 0:00:31
6 Mohammad Saufi Mat Senan (Mas) Terengganu Cycling Team 0:00:37
7 Oddbjørn Klomtsen Andersen (Nor) Team Frøy-Bianchi
8 Ki Ho Choi (HKg) Nationalmannschaft Hongkong 0:00:39
9 Liam Holohan (GBr) Madison Genesis Team 0:00:40
10 Masakazu Ito (Jpn) Aisan Racing Team 0:00:46
Absa Cape Epic
1 Christoph Sauser (SUI) & Jaroslav Kulhavy (Cze) Burry Stander - Songo 29:40:45
2 Karl Platt (GER) & Urs Huber (SUI) Bulls 0:07:10
3 Thomas Dietsch (Fra) & Tim Boehme (GER) Bulls 2 0:26:51
4 Jose Hermida (Esp) & Rudi Van Houts (Ned) Multivan Merida 0:39:10
5 Marco Aurelio Fontana (Esp) & Manuel Fumic (GER) Cannondale Factory Racing 1:06:25
Edited by ppanther on 24-03-2013 23:07
|
| |
|
|
| fintas |
Posted on 24-03-2013 23:28
|
Small Tour Specialist
Posts: 2602
Joined: 21-03-2008
PCM$: 1200.00
|
Volta ao Alentejo
| 1 | Jasper STUYVEN | BONTRAGER CYCLING TEAM | 19:30:47 | | 2 | Chad HAGA | TEAM OPTUM | a 10 | | 3 | Alejandro MARQUE | OFM/QUINTA DA LIXA | a 29 | | 4 | Delio FERNANDEZ | OFM/QUINTA DA LIXA | a 52 | | 5 | Carlos OYARZUN | DUNAS DOURADAS | a 1:12 | | 6 | Dieter BOUVRY | ETIXX/IHNED | a 1:19 | | 7 | Filipe CARDOSO | EFAPEL/GLASSDRIVE | a 1:20 | | 8 | Nikolay TRUSOV | CYCLINGTEAM DE RIJKE/SHANKS | a 1:34 | | 9 | Carlos BARBERO | EUSKADI | a 1:36 | | 10 | António CARVALHO | LA ALUMÍNÍOS/ANTARTE | a 1:41 | | 11 | Patrick KONRAD | ETIXX/IHNED | a 1:48 | | 12 | Daniel MESTRE | TAVIRA | a 2:05 | | 13 | Thomas ZIRBEL | TEAM OPTUM | a 2:14 | | 14 | Tanner J. PUTT | BONTRAGER CYCLING TEAM | a 2:16 | | 15 | Frederico FIGUEIREDO | LIBERTY SEGUROS/FEIRA | a 2:19 |
|
| |
|
|
| sutty68 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 23:29
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 34654
Joined: 22-08-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
Cunego showing some nice early season form 
And Froomey is riding so much better now that he doesn't have to be Wiggins minder |
| |
|
|
| Ad Bot |
Posted on 26-11-2024 15:35
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
| IP: None |
|
|
| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 25-03-2013 07:22
|
World Champion
Posts: 14236
Joined: 20-06-2011
PCM$: 300.00
|
Happy for Kulhavy at Cape Epic, brutal race that is. 
Also nice job from Leo Konig in Italy, i hope he will have better time this year with his back, as he had big problems with it last year and missed that Giro wildcard, i would love to see him at GT. Anybody knows if NetApp has chance for any wildcard this year?
And wow to Ulissi, he destroyed it, but Lampre couple was level above opposition right before the start on the paper. I am looking forward to his classics and Giro performance.
|
| |
|
|
| Ian Butler |
Posted on 25-03-2013 08:54
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 21854
Joined: 01-05-2012
PCM$: 400.00
|
Alakagom wrote:
wogsrus wrote:
Dont understand why Froome attacked Porte. Bit of a dog act really. Making a habit of putting himself infront of the team....
He didn't attack as such. Froome was stronger. Pulled away and when he saw he had a gap he just continued it. He was stronger than Porte, no point waiting.
I even think Porte gave him the okay, if I'm not mistaken. Froome was a bit in front, looked behind, looked at Porte and only then decided to really go.
Edited by Ian Butler on 25-03-2013 08:55
|
| |
|
|
| roturn |
Posted on 25-03-2013 08:57
|
Team Manager
Posts: 22246
Joined: 24-11-2007
PCM$: 3900.00
|
Before the stage they talked about their tactic. If Froome has good legs he was supposed to attack. If Porte had good legs, he would attack.
When Kirjenka got dropped Froome took over as he wanted to work. But then he created a gap without purpose as he was stronger than the rest. So he decided to go on improving the gap. |
| |
|
|
| ianrussell |
Posted on 25-03-2013 09:18
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3440
Joined: 09-10-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
So Froome moves to 12th in the all time list of the Criterium International, Col de l'Ospedale climb https://www.fillarifoorumi.fi/forum/sh...ost1996897
A whole second faster than Taaramäe's effort in 2011 but shy of Evans et als effort last year... |
| |
|
|
| ppanther |
Posted on 25-03-2013 15:15
|
Domestique
Posts: 482
Joined: 25-12-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Péraud : « I told Froome that I couldn't take a relay at this moment, and he told me : Ok, well, you'll never take a relay. Good bye » |
| |
|
|
| ianrussell |
Posted on 25-03-2013 17:30
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3440
Joined: 09-10-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
ppanther wrote:
Péraud : « I told Froome that I couldn't take a relay at this moment, and he told me : Ok, well, you'll never take a relay. Good bye »
 that's not nearly .exe enough  |
| |
|
|
| issoisso |
Posted on 25-03-2013 18:29
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 22918
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Happy for Kulhavy at Cape Epic, brutal race that is.
Meanwhile, at the cape epic finish line
Yes, he's proposing. Yes they rode the race as a team
Edited by issoisso on 25-03-2013 18:30
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
|
| |
|
|
| issoisso |
Posted on 25-03-2013 20:06
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 22918
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
ianrussell wrote:
So Froome moves to 12th in the all time list of the Criterium International, Col de l'Ospedale climb https://www.fillarifoorumi.fi/forum/sh...ost1996897
A whole second faster than Taaramäe's effort in 2011 but shy of Evans et als effort last year...
Last year: decent weather, dry roads.
This year: freezing weather, wet roads. Amazingly he was only 11 seconds slower.
Or to put it another way:
- Bouet went from 21s down to 1m8s down
- Freaking Fédrigo held on to sprint for the win last year. This year lost 1m8s
- Péraud lost 20 seconds last year, when he was off form and had the worst year of his career. This year he's been quite good....lost 45s
- Monfort went from 21s down to over 3 minutes down
The gap to 20th place was 1 and a half minutes. This year over 4.
Edited by issoisso on 25-03-2013 20:12
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
|
| |
|
|
| ianrussell |
Posted on 25-03-2013 21:57
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3440
Joined: 09-10-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
issoisso wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
So Froome moves to 12th in the all time list of the Criterium International, Col de l'Ospedale climb https://www.fillarifoorumi.fi/forum/sh...ost1996897
A whole second faster than Taaramäe's effort in 2011 but shy of Evans et als effort last year...
Last year: decent weather, dry roads.
This year: freezing weather, wet roads. Amazingly he was only 11 seconds slower.
Or to put it another way:
- Bouet went from 21s down to 1m8s down
- Freaking Fédrigo held on to sprint for the win last year. This year lost 1m8s
- Péraud lost 20 seconds last year, when he was off form and had the worst year of his career. This year he's been quite good....lost 45s
- Monfort went from 21s down to over 3 minutes down
The gap to 20th place was 1 and a half minutes. This year over 4.
Yes, and you're only mentioning a handful of the numerous factors, subjective judgements and context that play a key part in performance. The times do provide one concrete fact in a sea of subjective judgements and opinions that can be argued one way or the other.
To be clear I don't provide the information as proof of anything - there can be no proof at present - it does provide just a little bit more information on which to base ones opinion though.
Interesting article here https://www.cyclismas.com/2013/03/port...-a-frenzy/ - ask questions , be cynical, have clear reasons for doing so - in your post you have stated some clear reasons why someone might decide to be doubtful, all good |
| |
|
|
| ianrussell |
Posted on 26-03-2013 14:36
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3440
Joined: 09-10-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
65km to go in Driedaagse De Panne with Cav and Greipel currently taking turns on the front
Break of the day coming back soon.
Others in action include Sagan, Boonen, Chavanel, Gatto and Ciolek.
*Edit remnants of the break reinforced with a break of 6 now away and working well together to take the gap back out to over a minute with just over 40km to go. With 5, typically Belgian, climbs to come and some pave could be a good finish.
Ciolek already on Sagan's wheel 30km out 
Edited by ianrussell on 26-03-2013 15:22
|
| |
|
|
| cio93 |
Posted on 26-03-2013 15:27
|
World Champion
Posts: 10845
Joined: 29-10-2007
PCM$: 500.00
|
German ES commentators debating about Ciolek's chances in the Ronde... I seriously should apply for that job.
|
| |
|
|
| ianrussell |
Posted on 26-03-2013 15:34
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3440
Joined: 09-10-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Chava tries an attack - no luck - Sagan on the front for a climb with Cavendish closing the gap to him. Looked a little easier going for Sagan but still strong stuff for Cav relatively speaking.
Edited by ianrussell on 26-03-2013 15:36
|
| |
|
|
| ianrussell |
Posted on 26-03-2013 15:35
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3440
Joined: 09-10-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
cio93 wrote:
German ES commentators debating about Ciolek's chances in the Ronde... I seriously should apply for that job.
|
| |
|
