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| issoisso |
Posted on 03-09-2012 00:15
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aymen wrote:
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To anyone following the topic, I just did the math. If Danny Brown finishes the season after the Vuelta with the exact same solid but unspectacular results he got last season after the Vuelta, he'll finish the season ranked 6th.....ahead of Valverde.....while working for someone else almost all season......can we give this guy a medal?
doen't understand this part
Like I say there, it's not aimed at you
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What? What does that mean? And how did you go from Moreno not being a GC contender to he's going to win the Vuelta?
no that's because he's fifth then if we say that froome is dopped, and Rodriguez as well, Contador like i said have do it this night and Valverde doen't suspect him but maybe he also will take product then the first four are out, there is just two more Mountain Stages then it's Moreno
You just pretend anyone you think is doping doesn't exist? eh?
And you don't suspect a proven doper just coming back from suspension but you suspect another in the exact same situation? How arbitrary can you get? 
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Ok, then let's apply your rules. Contador tested positive once, at the 2010 Tour de France. By your rules, either he tested positive in every race he ever got a result in, or you're wrong when you say he only got results by doping.
So are you wrong or do your own rules not apply to you?
NO, you misunderstand me, I mean let's see Schleck Frank now he is Positive but I'm sure he didn't take products in his own, that is a correct evidence of cheating but we are not sure 100% that he is dopping. Or if you take armstrong , Leipheimer,Hincapie and Hamilton said he was dopping and people saying are token seriously that's why they are correct evidence
Back to Contador, The Positif Test in 2010 was a proof that he's dopping but it's also a clue that he may actually being dopped before
by some odd coincidence, Armstrong was not caught and he was dopped==>some products hard to be tested
and the year when Contador left Armstrong he was caught , weird no??
That ramble doesn't even begin to make sense. Sorry, I have zero idea what you're trying to say.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 03-09-2012 00:21
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issoisso wrote:
aymen wrote:
NO, you misunderstand me, I mean let's see Schleck Frank now he is Positive but I'm sure he didn't take products in his own, that is a correct evidence of cheating but we are not sure 100% that he is dopping. Or if you take armstrong , Leipheimer,Hincapie and Hamilton said he was dopping and people saying are token seriously that's why they are correct evidence
Back to Contador, The Positif Test in 2010 was a proof that he's dopping but it's also a clue that he may actually being dopped before
by some odd coincidence, Armstrong was not caught and he was dopped==>some products hard to be tested
and the year when Contador left Armstrong he was caught , weird no??
That ramble doesn't even begin to make sense. Sorry, I have zero idea what you're trying to say.
i get it
He's saying Contador may have doped before 2010 (duh)
Then there is a comparision between Contador and Armstrong
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nope sorry no idea, thought i had it
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| aymen |
Posted on 03-09-2012 00:21
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anyway sorry for my bad english but i can't explain more anyway
You say that i suspect Contador and i didn't suspect Valverde no
if you prefer I will say it another way:
Valverde want just a top 3 , contador is angry and he didn't stand Rodriguez winning against him si basically he will boost himself today (knowing Contador)
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 03-09-2012 00:22
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I just connected the Danny Brown part top Dani Moreno.
Edited by baseballlover312 on 03-09-2012 00:22
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| issoisso |
Posted on 03-09-2012 00:23
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aymen wrote:
anyway sorry for my bad english but i can't explain more anyway
You say that i suspect Contador and i didn't suspect Valverde no
if you prefer I will say it another way:
Valverde want just a top 3 , contador is angry and he didn't stand Rodriguez winning against him si basically he will boost himself today (knowing Contador)
I'm sorry, but if you think that's how doping works you are very very very very naive. Extremely naive.
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| aymen |
Posted on 03-09-2012 00:26
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TheManxMissile wrote:
issoisso wrote:
aymen wrote:
NO, you misunderstand me, I mean let's see Schleck Frank now he is Positive but I'm sure he didn't take products in his own, that is a correct evidence of cheating but we are not sure 100% that he is dopping. Or if you take armstrong , Leipheimer,Hincapie and Hamilton said he was dopping and people saying are token seriously that's why they are correct evidence
Back to Contador, The Positif Test in 2010 was a proof that he's dopping but it's also a clue that he may actually being dopped before
by some odd coincidence, Armstrong was not caught and he was dopped==>some products hard to be tested
and the year when Contador left Armstrong he was caught , weird no??
That ramble doesn't even begin to make sense. Sorry, I have zero idea what you're trying to say.
i get it
He's saying Contador may have doped before 2010 (duh)
Then there is a comparision between Contador and Armstrong
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nope sorry no idea, thought i had it
Don't have good english to say it but will try
look it's easy
Armstrong is dopped according to his team mate but he wasn't tested positive to some products , then we understand that the products that he use is not easy to discover or to track
And look Contador stayed until 2010 with Armstrong( exept for 2008)
then I think Contador was taking Products with him
when he left Armstrong he didn't get the Fantastic Armstrong Dopping Products
And then he was being obliged to take some Products that can easily been discovered
And then he was caught
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 03-09-2012 00:30
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aymen wrote:
Don't have good english to say it but will try
look it's easy
Armstrong is dopped according to his team mate but he wasn't tested positive to some products , then we understand that the products that he use is not easy to discover or to track
And look Contador stayed until 2010 with Armstrong( exept for 2008)
then I think Contador was taking Products with him
when he left Armstrong he didn't get the Fantastic Armstrong Dopping Products
And then he was being obliged to take some Products that can easily been discovered
And then he was caught
apart from the tests which were positive for EPO...
We all know Contador must have doped before 2010, like in '09 '08 '07 etc...
Armstong isnt the only doper, and whe Contador left he kept doping, thats why he was caught for doping...
And how was he obliged to take easily tracavle drugs? was he trying to be fair 
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| aymen |
Posted on 03-09-2012 00:44
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thank you
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 03-09-2012 06:07
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Montolivo wrote:
The sudden explosion of Rodriguez, makes me think what doctor is he using now? 
A very good one apparently. 
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 03-09-2012 06:33
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I second isso's thoughts about Moreno. Already after seeing him in last year's Vuelta, I started to consider him one of the best, if not the best, mountain domestique in the entire peloton. It's great to see that he gets some own top results too this year. 
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 03-09-2012 06:37
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
I second isso's thoughts about Moreno. Already after seeing him in last year's Vuelta, I started to consider him one of the best, if not the best, mountain domestique in the entire peloton. It's great to see that he gets some own top results too this year.
Moreno is indeed great, he had fantastic first 10 days also last year in Spain and than suffered. This year he is still awesome. Great rider
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| Wilier |
Posted on 03-09-2012 08:58
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| samdiatmh |
Posted on 03-09-2012 09:37
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is there a percentages by kilometer of that last climb?
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| abel2323 |
Posted on 03-09-2012 09:42
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samdiatmh wrote:
is there a percentages by kilometer of that last climb?
it looks brutal
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Posted on 03-09-2012 09:45
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those last 2.5kms 
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| Speedtrash |
Posted on 03-09-2012 09:48
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last 3km are really brutal
https://www.lavuel....html?e=16
I guess last 3km are somewhere around 15% average, with ramps over 20%....will be epic! |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 03-09-2012 10:24
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Rodriguez will sprint those 15% ramps like nothing i fear...go Bertie, win it today!
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| Farmer Sam |
Posted on 03-09-2012 10:24
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Cam Meyer pulls out so he can get ready for the World Championships.
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| Speedtrash |
Posted on 03-09-2012 11:11
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Contador will probably continue his numerous attacks, and that is only good for us...
two 1st category climbs before the great finale are also pretty steep, over 8% in average |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 03-09-2012 11:16
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Hope Contador wins today, but Rodriguez so strong, I have my doubts about his chances. |
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