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Giro d'Italia 2013 - Week 3
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Posted on 25-05-2013 16:38
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Just saw this:
He really needs to leave Radioshack, or he's going to turn into Andy 2.0.
I've done adventure races in the middle of the night in weather as bad as this. He is a professional, he should stop crying. |
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Posted on 25-05-2013 16:39
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Spilak23 wrote:
You clearly have another definition to 'convincing' as me. At what point during the Tour did you think "Wow, Wiggins really is the strongest rider in this peloton"
First of all, "than me". Not "as me". Must be some Benelux grammer issue since I see so many from those countries make that mistake.
And I think the question is not whether Nibali this Giro was stronger than Wiggins last Tour. Wiggins' win was more convincing since he had a team that eliminated any chance of defeat. The attacking style that Nibali uses and the fact that his team is nowhere near as dominant as Sky last Tour makes this win less predictable.
Mind you I am not a fan of Sky at all. |
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Posted on 25-05-2013 16:39
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Spilak23 wrote:
Iguwell wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
You clearly have another definition to 'convincing' as me. At what point during the Tour did you think "Wow, Wiggins really is the strongest rider in this peloton"
I didn't think "Wow".
I thought "Eeeww, Wiggins won the race after the TT".
So that's pretty convincing. To win a GT on the prolougue. And even putting Froome as a reason to not making it convincing even though he was 3'21'' behind, was his personal bitch, and was nowhere near ever getting a huge gap on Wiggins, then it was extremely convincing.
Froome was alrady 20" infront of Wiggins on La Toussuire when he got called back. And you think he would not have taken atleast 30 seconds on Peyragudes?
This is the only thing that matters here. Convincing win by Wiggins. |
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Posted on 25-05-2013 16:42
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Spilak23 wrote:
Iguwell wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
You clearly have another definition to 'convincing' as me. At what point during the Tour did you think "Wow, Wiggins really is the strongest rider in this peloton"
I didn't think "Wow".
I thought "Eeeww, Wiggins won the race after the TT".
So that's pretty convincing. To win a GT on the prolougue. And even putting Froome as a reason to not making it convincing even though he was 3'21'' behind, was his personal bitch, and was nowhere near ever getting a huge gap on Wiggins, then it was extremely convincing.
Froome was alrady 20" infront of Wiggins on La Toussuire when he got called back. And you think he would not have taken atleast 30 seconds on Peyragudes?
No reason to take Froome into account when judging Wiggins' win last year. Froome was never given a chance - he is not a proper Brit after all...
Hopefully internal team problems will ruin it for them both this year. |
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Posted on 25-05-2013 16:43
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If you want to believe Wiggins' win was as convincing as Nibali's, go ahead. 
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Posted on 25-05-2013 16:48
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Deserved. Nibali was the best throughout the 3 weeks, and had no opposition at all. Really great results for Uran, Betancur and Majka. Lampre should consider Niemiec to lead the team in the Vuelta, finally a GT top-10 for him. Also, Santambrogio seemed to crack in this last week, but also rode very well, a good top-10. Now, hope this sudden change of rider has nothing to do with Di Luca's case... |
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| Tjoertszc |
Posted on 25-05-2013 16:48
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Spilak23 wrote:
If you want to believe Wiggins' win was as convincing as Nibali's, go ahead.
Perfect argumentation there. 
I despise Wiggins' win last year - in a few years it will be a Tour remembered only for the scandal it was.
But nevertheless - at this point in time it sadly is the most convincing GT win in recent years. +6.19 advantage to clostest competitor, and win secured in the first week.
Nibali's win is, however, much more deserved and memorable.
Edited by Tjoertszc on 25-05-2013 16:49
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Posted on 25-05-2013 16:52
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Dafuq, I just found out Mourey will finish in the top-20. o.O |
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Posted on 25-05-2013 16:52
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FreitasPCM wrote:
Lampre should consider Niemiec to lead the team in the Vuelta, finally a GT top-10 for him.
He was leading Lampre last year at Vuelta so we might see him leading Lampre this year at Vuelta again. |
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Posted on 25-05-2013 16:53
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What has happend to the bonus seconds Di Luca took on the stage won by Hansen? Cause Santambrogio is only 6" behind Intxausti and was 4th that stage.
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Posted on 25-05-2013 16:53
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Surely the most convincing GT winner is one who looked like the strongest in the field, who looked unbeatable in any situation. On exactly none of the mountain stages did Wiggins look the strongest - he didn't convince me that Froome couldn't have dropped him whenever he so wished. |
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Posted on 25-05-2013 17:02
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cio93 wrote:
Brace yourselves, the new German GT hope is coming!
| 30 | GRETSCH Patrick | Team Argos - Shimano | | | 3:15 |
Impressive. He clearly is very good at handling 3 weeks of racing. Rode strong 2nd TT in le Tour aswell.
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Posted on 25-05-2013 17:03
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Surely the most convincing GT winner is one who looked like the strongest in the field, who looked unbeatable in any situation. On exactly none of the mountain stages did Wiggins look the strongest - he didn't convince me that Froome couldn't have dropped him whenever he so wished.
Cycling is a team sport. Froome would never have been allowed to do so. Nibali never threatened Wiggins last year - the team behind him was just too unbelievably strong. You knew Wiggins had won just from the start. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-05-2013 17:08
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Well, I called that Santambrogio wouldn't last three weeks, but he was actually better than I thought in the first place and still got a Top 10, so I was only partly right.
Also, Francis Mourey is really riding well.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-05-2013 17:10
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Tjoertszc wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Surely the most convincing GT winner is one who looked like the strongest in the field, who looked unbeatable in any situation. On exactly none of the mountain stages did Wiggins look the strongest - he didn't convince me that Froome couldn't have dropped him whenever he so wished.
Cycling is a team sport. Froome would never have been allowed to do so. Nibali never threatened Wiggins last year - the team behind him was just too unbelievably strong. You knew Wiggins had won just from the start.
You're right, he wasn't allowed to, but the point is. His own team-mate looked a lot better than him and probably could have won the tour last year by 10min+. So it wasn't convincing in that sense.
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Posted on 25-05-2013 17:13
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
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He really needs to leave Radioshack, or he's going to turn into Andy 2.0.
Yeah like any high-competition endurance sport has got anything to do with health 
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 25-05-2013 17:13
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valverde321 wrote:
Also, Francis Mourey is really riding well.
There is a precedent in Gadret. Plus he should be more used to the cold temperatures.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 25-05-2013 17:47
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De Greef just needs someone to be kicked out for doping and he can get his precious 20th place!
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 25-05-2013 17:49
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CountArach wrote:
De Greef just needs someone to be kicked out for doping and he can get his precious 20th place!
Or to fall and abandon. GO DE GREEF!!! GET THAT 20th place. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 25-05-2013 17:52
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Appollonio also took the maglia nera today. But we all now Gavazzi should have won that competition.
And Belkov was OOT on the MTT? He would have top-10'd the points competition otherwise
Edited by Spilak23 on 25-05-2013 17:54
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