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General Career Discussion
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| Shonak |
Posted on 22-08-2013 20:23
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Scuzzi for double post, but... Vlaanderen treble with Breschel, whoopdidoo! 
EDIT: Is there a way to edit the UCI Tour points for stage wins? Maybe then the discrepancy won`t be so high between my team and others and there will be a higher competition. I just think that stage wins give too less points compared to classics or GC rankings. Also, is there a chance to edit that the UCI World Champion won't be automatically third place at the "Cycling of the Year"-voting at the end of the season. It's basically just: First rank is the guy on top of UCI ranking, 2nd is the tour winner (or someone else if 1st at UCI & Tour winner is the same), and 3rd is the world champion. Not enough appreciation for other races it seems to me.
Edited by Shonak on 22-08-2013 22:32
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 23-08-2013 06:52
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Shonak wrote:
What's the standard coeff_f_carc_evolution set at the start of the career?
Default is 0.5, but 0.3 is recommended.
About the UCI points, I don't know. But I do know that it's completely in line with how it goes in the real world too. Cyclist of the year has given me some different results, so I guess it's just a coincidence in your career that it always turns out the same way. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 23-08-2013 20:22
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Thanks mate. In case you edit carc_evolution will older riders decline slower?
Edited by Shonak on 23-08-2013 20:22
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 23-08-2013 20:27
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Yes, I guess so.
Feyenoord(football) and Kelderman fanboy
PCMdaily Awards: 12x nomination, 9x runner-up, 0x win.
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 23-08-2013 22:40
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Kentaurus wrote:
I've mentioned this in another thread, I'll post it again (and hope that it gets changed in one of the updates) STA_cyclist_progression controls how much of a change gene_i_year_progression causes. In default a 1 in gene_i_year_progression = 20% (.2) of normal growth, and 5 = 300% (3).
I highly recommend changes the values in STA_cyclist_progression to match this:
1 - .5
2 - .75
3 - 1
4 - 1.33
5 - 2
this makes the gene_i_year_progression value a little less important while still giving some variation. No longer will riders have a completely stagnant year or have a season where they burst from bad to great.
Trying an extreme version of this now (0.50 - 0.75 - 1.00 - 1.25 - 1.50) with a Flaminia-Fondriest career, let's see how it goes. At least I'm very proud of my result in Trofeo Laigueglia, the first season target. Andrea Fedi was in the breakaway until 10 km before the finish. Then the favourites attacked and Mucelli joined to sprint to third place! This might end up being a lot of fun
| 1 | Moreno Moser | Cannondale Pro Cycling | 5h00'09 | | 2 | Heinrich Haussler | IAM Cycling | s.t. | | 3 | Davide Mucelli | Ceramica Flaminia - Fondriest | s.t. | | 4 | Fabian Wegmann | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 5 | Nick Nuyens | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 6 | Elia Favilli | Lampre - Merida | + 48 | | 7 | Jonathan Tiernan-Locke | Sky Procycling | s.t. | | 8 | Damiano Caruso | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 9 | Tom Boonen | Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 10 | Giacomo Nizzolo | RadioShack - Leopard | s.t. |
edit: and even better, second in Strade Bianche!
| 1 | Rinaldo Nocentini | AG2R La Mondiale | 4h35'10 | | 2 | Davide Mucelli | Ceramica Flaminia - Fondriest | s.t. | | 3 | Fabio Felline | Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela | s.t. | | 4 | Andrey Amador | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 5 | Moreno Moser | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 6 | Elia Favilli | Lampre - Merida | s.t. | | 7 | Carlos Betancur | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 8 | Maciej Bodnar | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 9 | Manuele Mori | Lampre - Merida | s.t. | | 10 | José Serpa | Lampre - Merida | s.t. |
Edited by Blueprint on 23-08-2013 23:29
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| eple |
Posted on 25-08-2013 17:11
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Just finished Giro d'Italia. My results in the UCI tour so far:
Tour down under
2nd: Goss +3"
3rd: Nerz +10"
Jerseys:
Sprinter: Goss 36pts | Nerz 24pts
KOM: Harry Rodgers
Young rider: Peeters
Podium finishes:
1st: Goss x4
2nd: Nerx x3
Paris-Nice
7th: De Gendt
(De Gendt was 2nd behind Henao. His team was closing the break away down on the last hilly stage when all of a sudden they stopped. I was too late to notice and fell down the GC ranking and was unable to rectify in the last stage which was flat)
Jerseys:
Sprinter: De Gendt 2nd (-2 pts)
Youmg Rider: Hue
Podium finishes:
1st: De Gendt x2 | Goss
Podium: Vermote, De Gendt x2
Tirr-Adriactico
2nd: Sagan "28
Jerseys:
Sprinter: Sagan
Young Rider: Alvarado
Podium finishes:
1st: Sagan x4
Podium: Phinney, Sagan
Milan-San Remo
2nd: Goss 29"
3rd: Sagan 55"
4th: Keirsbulck
10th: De Gendt
E3:
1st: Peter Sagan
4th: Keirsbulck
6th: Phinney
9th: De Bie
Gent-Wevelgem
1st: Peter Sagan
3rd: Taylor Phinney
Volta Catalunya
1st: De Gendt
4th: Nerz +39"
Jerseys:
Sprinter: De Gendt
Young rider: Hue
Stage Wins: Goss x2 | De Gendt
Podium: De Gendt x4 | Demare
Ronde-Vlaanderen
2nd: Sagan
3rd: Keirsbulck
Pais Vasco
1st: Nerz
Jerseys
Sprinter: Nerz
Young Rider: Hue
Stage Win: Nerz x2 | Goss
Podium: Nerz x2 | Demare
Paris-Roubaix
1st: Peter Sagan
2nd: Keirsbulck
Amstel Gold Race
1st: Sagan
La Fleche Wallonne
4th: Sagan
Liege - Bastogne - Liege
1st: Sagan
Tour de Romandie
7th: Aru +2'17"
9Th: Talansky +2'38"
Young rider: Seth Jones
Podium: G. Thomas x2
Giro de Italia
1st: Aru
Jerseys
Sprinter: Aru
KOM: Jones
Young rider: Jones
Stage Win: Aru x2 | Swift x2 | Jones x2 | Thomas
Podium: Aru x5 | Swift x5 | Talansky x3 | Jones | Poppel
Aside from the odd mistakes and poor results it's been a great season so far. Most AI riders seemed out of form in the Giro, so I expect a very difficult Tour once again. The double in Paris-Roubaix means whatever happen I'm more than satisfied.
Edited by eple on 25-08-2013 17:25
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| Stijn96 |
Posted on 28-08-2013 16:33
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I'm in 1st season with team La Pomme-Marseille and I want to sign Jerome Coppel.
Does anybody know his potential as a climber? What mountain rating will he reach in 2-3 years time? He's now at 75
Edited by Stijn96 on 28-08-2013 16:34
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 28-08-2013 16:36
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If you really want to know, you can always look in the editor (DYN_cyclist -> limits). Although I personally think that it's also a fun part of the game not to know those kinds of things and be surprised or disappointed at times as well. But that's of course up to you 
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| Stijn96 |
Posted on 28-08-2013 16:48
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cunego59 wrote:
If you really want to know, you can always look in the editor (DYN_cyclist -> limits). Although I personally think that it's also a fun part of the game not to know those kinds of things and be surprised or disappointed at times as well. But that's of course up to you
Yes but I just don't know whether to sign Fuglsang or Coppel. I would sign Fuglsang because he has a better mountain rating (76 vs 75) and he's cheaper (15000 vs 18000). On the other hand, I'd take Coppel just because he's younger (26 vs 27). |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 28-08-2013 17:16
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The price somewhat indicates the potential of a young rider. If both riders have similar age and stats, then the expensive rider should have more potential.
But anyway, the only way to find the potential is looking into the save of your career. |
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 28-08-2013 17:23
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Stijn96 wrote:
cunego59 wrote:
If you really want to know, you can always look in the editor (DYN_cyclist -> limits). Although I personally think that it's also a fun part of the game not to know those kinds of things and be surprised or disappointed at times as well. But that's of course up to you
Yes but I just don't know whether to sign Fuglsang or Coppel. I would sign Fuglsang because he has a better mountain rating (76 vs 75) and he's cheaper (15000 vs 18000). On the other hand, I'd take Coppel just because he's younger (26 vs 27).
personally I'd go for Coppel because he's another frenchman so fits your team better and I'd expect them both to have similar potentials in terms of maountain stats. The price difference leads me to believe that Coppel might be a little more rounded when he's reached his potential then Fuglsang but it's more likely that it's an indication of their roles on their current teams.
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 29-08-2013 07:52
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Doesn't fame play a role too in the salary that they want? Anyway, for a French team, Coppel would be the one to go for.
I dropped my Flaminia career for a full-blown Italian experience with Bardiani. Talented young squad, many cool races to ride (we're doing the full Italian calendar with only a handful of other races) and Francesco Bongiorno is one of my personal favourites. |
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| Stijn96 |
Posted on 29-08-2013 08:49
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I played a bit Yesterday evening. I had decided to take Coppel, then I offered him 16000 euros instead of 18000 (per month) for 2 years. Unfortunately, Omega Pharma-Quickstep signed him. Sky had just re-signed Porte, so I had to try to get Fuglsang.
I finally made it: 2-years contract @14000 euros. It's very cheap, so I'm quite satisfied, even though I would have preffered Coppel!
Edited by Stijn96 on 29-08-2013 11:09
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| Stijn96 |
Posted on 31-08-2013 09:14
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Just started season 2, I have some interesting, Young and cheap riders on my team.
Fuglsang is now at 77 mountain and he has one more point of potential
I won Tour of Malaysia and finished 3rd in Vuelta Ciclistica a Cataluna with him behind A.Schleck and Wiggins
Edited by Stijn96 on 01-09-2013 10:29
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| Shonak |
Posted on 08-09-2013 10:47
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I'm still in season 6 (I think) and right now racing the TdF. It seems to be like I have the... issue, Blueprint mentioned earlier. Riders stay in a pack the whole way up to the Mountain Stage. Many try to attack but Froome/Sky constantly pull them back in, and the only time differences amongst the top 6-7 only occur on the last 1 km when they start to sprint. This is the first time this is "happening", although the Giro this season was already a bit like that. However, now that everbody is in top shape there doesn't seem to be much difference. I truly hope that this is just a one-time occurence during the Tour (maybe it's the stages, who knows) and MTO stages get a bit more exciting in the last week.
Edited by Shonak on 08-09-2013 10:52
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 09-09-2013 07:10
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Shonak wrote:
I'm still in season 6 (I think) and right now racing the TdF. It seems to be like I have the... issue, Blueprint mentioned earlier. Riders stay in a pack the whole way up to the Mountain Stage. Many try to attack but Froome/Sky constantly pull them back in, and the only time differences amongst the top 6-7 only occur on the last 1 km when they start to sprint. This is the first time this is "happening", although the Giro this season was already a bit like that. However, now that everbody is in top shape there doesn't seem to be much difference. I truly hope that this is just a one-time occurence during the Tour (maybe it's the stages, who knows) and MTO stages get a bit more exciting in the last week.
Maybe the Resistance stat got up too high, can you check that one for the main GC riders in your savegame? They should be somewhere between 70 and 76, definitely not higher.
I restarted with Astana myself, this time with Nibali aiming for the Tour de France, instead of Giro and Vuelta. It will be tough, but the parcours should suit him well. Also, next year, the sponsor contract runs out, so it will be better to have a more or less guaranteed Giro victory in 2014.
Season highlights so far include winning Tour Down Under (as usual a 1-2 with Iglinskiy & Gasparotto), Tirreno-Adriatico (Nibali), Gent-Wevelgem (Bozic with a mighty sprint), Pais Vasco (Iglinskiy) and the Amstel Gold Race (Gasparotto). I was less happy about Paris-Nice (8th with Fuglsang), Milano-Sanremo (attacks on Poggio failed this time, so had to settle for 6th with Bozic) and Romandie (Brajkovic not even in the top-10). Mixed feelings about Liege-Bastogne-Liege, where Gasparotto and Iglinskiy ended on the podium behind winner Gilbert.
Currently riding the Giro, where Astana turned the first hilly stage into a true apocalypse by taking advantage of the wind. Things were looking really good for Brajkovic in a group of 30, but unfortunately a second group with guys like Scarponi, Hesjedal and Van Garderen managed to come back in the uphill part. Still got Basso down for 6 minutes though and some outsiders lost time too, so Brajkovic did a good job for his top-10 GC target. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 09-09-2013 11:57
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Actually the problem resolved itself. The following stages were all back to "normal", whilst Froome still dominated in the same way, it was much earlier now.
Does resistance determine how good other riders can keep up with an attack? If that's the case I check it in Lachis editor. There is definitely a lack of "impact" on many MTO stages. Riders lose way too much energy compared to the time/meter gap they gain.
I actually edited some stats for the first time a few days before, although I didn't change any of my own rider stats. Mostly I just increased the Age of Decline for some famous, "enemy" riders in my career (Froome, Nibali, Pinot, Terpstra and so forth) to have enough and stiff competition the coming seasons.
Seasonwise: Things are looking good. As usual. Breschel won later Vattenfall Cyclassics and San Sebastian. He should be in tremendous form for the WC. Sagan injured. I hired a talent, whose potential is completely through the roof (at least for once the scouts did their job good) and managed to sign Degenkolb. So I have now two sprinter-captains. I see the slight transition from a once pure GC-squad to a specialization on One-Day Classics, One Week-Races & GT stages. I'd have loved to sign Tony Martin but he always signs a few days before transfer window opens with his old team...
Actually, another question, as usual: What excatly do I have to change to make ExxonMobil (once Omega Pharma) a belgian team? Do I have to change sponsor nationality, something in the team sheets? Now that Lotto Belisol (Team Dexia-Telenet) look to fall out of UCI World Tour, I think it's important to have a belgian team still in the race. There are way too many american sponsors anyway.
Edited by Shonak on 09-09-2013 11:59
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 09-09-2013 12:16
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Resistance is related to the yellow bar. The higher it is, the slower the yellow drops and the longer a rider can deliver a high power output. It's not about attacking (therefore you need acceleration, red bar), but about keeping up and closing gaps at a high pace. Simply put: good climbers with high resistance are damn hard to drop. So better check your savegame with Lachis Editor.
If you want ExxonMobil to be Belgian, the best way to go is changing the sponsor's nationality in the off-season, so before the new season kicks in. Another reason why I tweaked so many things in my own variation of PCM.Daily database: creating more balance in nationalities of top sponsors, instead of just letting the big American companies dominate the cycling world. What you could also do, is changing the sponsor contract from ExxonMobil to a Belgian sponsor without a team. This requires some tweaking of DYN_Team and DYN_Sponsor if I remember correctly. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 10-09-2013 12:41
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I see, thanks mate. I looked up the Resistance stats. Nibali, Kelderman, Pinot and Froome and some others have have over 76. Schleck has 76, thus I will decrease it accordingly too. I will make a back-up though. However, I noticed that Resistance must be important for Time Trial as Velits, Boom and others are over 76? Can I edit the whole bunch of rider without messing up Time Trials as they are? If I edit Kelderman it's obvious that I have to edit all other riders too to keep the time trials at least interesting.
Most importantly: By how much shall I decrease? A quick sample: Boom 84, Velits 82, Kelderman 80, Nibali 78, Froome 77, Pinot 77, Schleck 76 (my team), Breschel 76 (team), Cavendish 76, Terpsta 75, Sagan 75 (team)
Everyone over 76 gets 76 or shall I decrease accordingly or in more variant steps (more stat deduction for GT/MTO riders, less for pure Time Trialists and Sprinters?)
I suppose for Nibali and Kelderman I could rise their MTO stats as a way of compensating.
Is there also any way of limiting Resistance in the future for generated riders?
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 10-09-2013 13:24
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For generated riders, you can use my XML files, see this post: https://pcmdaily.c...ost_692880
Not sure if it works with ongoing careers though, although I assume it will be used from the start of your next season.
I don't know exactly how to proceed with lowering the resistance stats, but you could just drop the top ones to 76 and lower the rest a little bit too. Might be quite some work though, especially as you will also need to adjust their resistance limits to prevent them from bouncing back up. |
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