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| Dippofix |
Posted on 14-11-2014 22:37
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CountArach wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Cannondale-Garmin Pro Cycling for 2015:
Janier Acevedo, Jack Bauer, Alberto Bettiol, Nathan Brown, André Cardoso, Tom Danielson, Joe Dombrowski, Davide Formolo, Nathan Haas, Lasse Hansen, Ryder Hesjedal, Alex Howes, Ben King, Ted King, Kristjian Koren, Sebastian Langeveld, Alan Marangoni, Dan Martin, Matej Mohoric, Moreno Moser, Ramunas Navardauskas, Kristoffer Skjerping, Tom Jelte Slagter, Andrew Talansky, Dylan Van Baarle, Davide Villella and Ruben Zepuntke
In: Dombo, Skjerping, Zepuntke
Looks like a typical Vaughters team, no stand out rider but everyone is solid and capable of a win on their day.
Dan Martin strongly disagrees.... 
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| viking90 |
Posted on 15-11-2014 10:49
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Sorry if this already is posted. Have not been so active on the site lately.
But a new Swedish cycling team with Thomas Löfkvist as manager.
https://www.teamtr... |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 15-11-2014 12:36
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Dippofix wrote:
CountArach wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Cannondale-Garmin Pro Cycling for 2015:
Janier Acevedo, Jack Bauer, Alberto Bettiol, Nathan Brown, André Cardoso, Tom Danielson, Joe Dombrowski, Davide Formolo, Nathan Haas, Lasse Hansen, Ryder Hesjedal, Alex Howes, Ben King, Ted King, Kristjian Koren, Sebastian Langeveld, Alan Marangoni, Dan Martin, Matej Mohoric, Moreno Moser, Ramunas Navardauskas, Kristoffer Skjerping, Tom Jelte Slagter, Andrew Talansky, Dylan Van Baarle, Davide Villella and Ruben Zepuntke
In: Dombo, Skjerping, Zepuntke
Looks like a typical Vaughters team, no stand out rider but everyone is solid and capable of a win on their day.
Dan Martin strongly disagrees....
I don't think Martin is in the top caliber of riders. He is great and easily the best on that team but he will rarely go into a race as the favourite IMO.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 15-11-2014 14:15
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viking90 wrote:
Sorry if this already is posted. Have not been so active on the site lately.
But a new Swedish cycling team with Thomas Löfkvist as manager.
https://www.teamtr...
Niklas Gustavsson should get them some sprint wins  |
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| Anderis |
Posted on 15-11-2014 21:45
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CountArach wrote:
I don't think Martin is in the top caliber of riders. He is great and easily the best on that team but he will rarely go into a race as the favourite IMO.
I do think he is the best in the world in hilly classics. He could've won 3 monuments in 2 years if didn't fall down on the last corner of Liege this year. I don't know what does he need to do more to get the recognition he deserves. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 16-11-2014 00:04
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Anderis wrote:
CountArach wrote:
I don't think Martin is in the top caliber of riders. He is great and easily the best on that team but he will rarely go into a race as the favourite IMO.
I do think he is the best in the world in hilly classics. He could've won 3 monuments in 2 years if didn't fall down on the last corner of Liege this year. I don't know what does he need to do more to get the recognition he deserves.
In actual ability, I dont see him as the top hilly rider. What he does have, is that he is tactically above a lot of other riders. He gets in the right moves often.
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 16-11-2014 00:12
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valverde321 wrote:
Anderis wrote:
CountArach wrote:
I don't think Martin is in the top caliber of riders. He is great and easily the best on that team but he will rarely go into a race as the favourite IMO.
I do think he is the best in the world in hilly classics. He could've won 3 monuments in 2 years if didn't fall down on the last corner of Liege this year. I don't know what does he need to do more to get the recognition he deserves.
In actual ability, I dont see him as the top hilly rider. What he does have, is that he is tactically above a lot of other riders. He gets in the right moves often.
Yeah, I have to agree with valverde there (both with you and real Valverde probably )
Also, if he didn't fall, Gerrans was catching to fast for Martin to win Liege-Bastonge-Liege this year, Gerrans would still have won, Martin might have come second though.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 16-11-2014 00:13
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Anderis wrote:
CountArach wrote:
I don't think Martin is in the top caliber of riders. He is great and easily the best on that team but he will rarely go into a race as the favourite IMO.
I do think he is the best in the world in hilly classics. He could've won 3 monuments in 2 years if didn't fall down on the last corner of Liege this year. I don't know what does he need to do more to get the recognition he deserves.
If you solely look at the palmares, there is really no contest. Valverde is head and shoulders above the rest, whether or not you call me a fanboy is up to you.
Edit: Gerrans is probably the only close to Valverde, but the thing about Valverde is he will win the 'easy' hilly classics and the harder ones. Gerrans cant win Lombardia and harder WC routes, while Martin struggles when its too easy.
Edited by Riis123 on 16-11-2014 00:15
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| CountArach |
Posted on 16-11-2014 00:40
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valverde321 wrote:
Anderis wrote:
CountArach wrote:
I don't think Martin is in the top caliber of riders. He is great and easily the best on that team but he will rarely go into a race as the favourite IMO.
I do think he is the best in the world in hilly classics. He could've won 3 monuments in 2 years if didn't fall down on the last corner of Liege this year. I don't know what does he need to do more to get the recognition he deserves.
In actual ability, I dont see him as the top hilly rider. What he does have, is that he is tactically above a lot of other riders. He gets in the right moves often.
This. He can read a race better than almost any other leader in the race (I think that he could be a great DS one day) but he just can't develop the same power as guys like Valverde or Rodriguez.
Edit: Gerrans is probably the only close to Valverde, but the thing about Valverde is he will win the 'easy' hilly classics and the harder ones. Gerrans cant win Lombardia and harder WC routes, while Martin struggles when its too easy.
Gerrans again can't develop quite the wattage of many other guys but he always rides within himself, as he did with his MSR victory.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 16-11-2014 01:18
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I dont know what it has to do with my point, but anyways, he has kinda proved he doesnt need to do that in order to win hilly classics. His win speaks for themselves |
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| MrUfo87 |
Posted on 18-11-2014 11:33
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The woman who was hit by Johan Vansummeren at the Ronde van Vlaanderen will be paralysed for the rest of her life 
Source (Dutch): https://www.wielerrevue.nl/2014/11/18/...nsummeren/
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 18-11-2014 11:46
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For those of us that don't speak dutch could you/someone provide a summary of the details?
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| MrUfo87 |
Posted on 18-11-2014 11:55
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TheManxMissile wrote:
For those of us that don't speak dutch could you/someone provide a summary of the details?
I'll give it a try. Sorry if there are any mistakes in it.
After the accident the doctors said that she would recover, but after two weeks they said that the right side of the body would be paralysed forever, so things like talking would be very difficult.
It's not clear yet who's guilty for the accident. Because of that, the costs of the hospital go to the victim at the moment. The woman is requiring help for the rest of her life.
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| roturn |
Posted on 18-11-2014 12:45
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While MTN Quebeka was adding a lot of Internationals for next season, they also will introduce an full African feeder team for 2015.
They will mainly stay in Africa but for development reasons also ride in amateur and UCI .2 races in Europe for 2-3 months the year.
With the great name "MTN-Qhubeka World Cycling Centre Africa Feeder Team" they will have 10 riders, 7 South Africans and 3 Eritrean:
Tesfom Okubamariam, Metkel Eyob, Meron Teshome (ERI), Oliver Stapleton-Cotton, Jayde Julius, Gustav Basson, Graeme Ockhuis, Clint Hendricks, Nicholas Dlamini, Stefan De Bod (RSA) |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 18-11-2014 17:07
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That is really sad news for the woman involved, that will prey on Van Summerens mind for the rest of his life  |
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| MARSUPILAMI |
Posted on 18-11-2014 17:20
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Poor woman
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| CountArach |
Posted on 19-11-2014 10:54
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Wow Astana. Just. Wow.
Edited by CountArach on 19-11-2014 10:56
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 19-11-2014 11:00
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Well as you can see it's the development squad, so has no connection in any way with the WT team, staff and riders. Therefore this will have no impact on the liscense review. Vino is just innocent and anyone who says otherwise is lieing as he is clearly a reformed individual with no remaining links to doping.
Honestly guys this isn;t news
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| sgdanny |
Posted on 19-11-2014 11:00
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Astana to become the new Festina ? ^^
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 19-11-2014 11:23
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That Van Summeren thing in English:
https://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/wom..._accident/
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