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Critérium du Dauphiné 2013
maxime86
Gallopin 3rd overall!! and third on the stage!!
 
Avin Wargunnson
Alakagom wrote:
EBH is not a sprinter, him training to be a sprinter would be a waste. Same as he's targeting PR and cobbles - waste. He should target more hillier races.

Swift is similar to EBH, doesn't have the top speed. It was known from the start. However he showed great climbing skills in Mallorca ( tbf ages ago already at the U23 Worlds he showed it ) before getting in a crash, he could become quite a solid punchy rider with good/okay-ish sprint on him.

In terms of possessing pure sprint speed, Sky don't have anyone.

EBH is like Sagan, just a bit worse in every aspect. I doubt he will ever win a cobbled or hilly or sprinters monument, he is just perfect stage hunter and great teammate. But he can of course develop further into some specialized rider and thus win something bigger than G-W.
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issoisso
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
EBH is like Sagan, just a bit worse in every aspect.


Time trials that aren't extremely short? Climbs that aren't extremely short?
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Avin Wargunnson
issoisso wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
EBH is like Sagan, just a bit worse in every aspect.


Time trials that aren't extremely short? Climbs that aren't extremely short?

True, i rather meant in those areas that are their main specialites, or where they compete with the best (hilly classics, sprinting, cobbles).

Also i think if Sagan would for whatever reason change his training and bodytype, he would be maybe stronger also on longer climbs than EBH, but that is just pure speculation. Look at last years July Sagan, how he performed at longer mountains in long range attacks (that is also speciality of EBH though).

Longer TTs are better for Eddie for sure, but does it matter for races where they want to suceed at these points of their careers? Sagan does not give a s*it about long TTs...
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 04-06-2013 08:56
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Alakagom
Seems Sky are actually working for Eddy today.
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Ian Butler
They probably overheard our conversation Pfft
 
Alakagom
And EBH wins showing Meersman sucks Pfft Just kidding. Still shows he lacks top speed.

What a leadout by G though!
Edited by Alakagom on 04-06-2013 13:51
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ianrussell
So it was worth trying EBH! Pfft
 
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roturn
Bouhanni was coming fast but got blocked by Chavanel and Thomas.
Would have liked to see his end speed today.
 
ianrussell
Couldn't watch it and I know there was a technical run in but a bit surprised that neither Viviani or Bouhani weren't top 3.
Edited by ianrussell on 04-06-2013 13:52
 
cio93
Van Rensburg with a nice speed in the end, he had a gap of like 5 bike lenghts to Bouhanni after the last corner.
 
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Ian Butler
Alakagom wrote:
And EBH wins showing Meersman sucks Pfft Just kidding. Still shows he lacks top speed.

What a leadout by G though!


Hey!

Hope he can take Green home, though, 2x 2nd and 1x 3rd is pretty consistent, probably most consistent here so far Wink

And, to be honest, most consistent Belgian of the year Grin Pfft
 
Alakagom
EBH - G combo is indeed a good one. 2011 was their best year together and it seems we finally have them back Pfft

G doing Tour will be massive asset for EBH and Sky overall.
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Jesleyh
@Ian ok, but the most consistent Belgian rider of the moment overall is De Greef, you can't disagree on that with me. Look at his GT results Pfft
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Ian Butler
:lol: very true.

Though if VDB makes 4th in the Tour this year, the price is his! Pfft
 
Alakagom
Ian Butler wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
And EBH wins showing Meersman sucks Pfft Just kidding. Still shows he lacks top speed.

What a leadout by G though!


Hey!

Hope he can take Green home, though, 2x 2nd and 1x 3rd is pretty consistent, probably most consistent here so far Wink

And, to be honest, most consistent Belgian of the year Grin Pfft


He's having a very good season, no doubt about that.

Being consistent in a mediocore sprinter field isn't that great, still he's doing very well so far in this race. Although when EBH beats you on flat finish this season, not a great sign Pfft

He's good, I quite like him but some comments earlier in this thread made him look like a god in those sprints Pfft
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ianrussell
Alakagom wrote:
EBH - G combo is indeed a good one. 2011 was their best year together and it seems we finally have them back Pfft

G doing Tour will be massive asset for EBH and Sky overall.


Yes indeed. Begs the question why was he leading out Kennaugh yesterday?! Has EBH been sick or some such :/
Edited by ianrussell on 04-06-2013 14:00
 
johnnyjur
roturn wrote:
Bouhanni was coming fast but got blocked by Chavanel and Thomas.
Would have liked to see his end speed today.


He was really fast before he got blocked, but once again showing his inability to position himself.
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Ian Butler
Alakagom wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
And EBH wins showing Meersman sucks Pfft Just kidding. Still shows he lacks top speed.

What a leadout by G though!


Hey!

Hope he can take Green home, though, 2x 2nd and 1x 3rd is pretty consistent, probably most consistent here so far Wink

And, to be honest, most consistent Belgian of the year Grin Pfft


He's having a very good season, no doubt about that.

Being consistent in a mediocore sprinter field isn't that great, still he's doing very well so far in this race. Although when EBH beats you on flat finish this season, not a great sign Pfft

He's good, I quite like him but some comments earlier in this thread made him look like a god in those sprints Pfft


Well we might have gotten ahead of ourselves here Rolling Eyes. But everybody is guilty of that a lot on this site Pfft
 
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