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PCM 2013
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| Arebuen |
Posted on 10-05-2013 19:21
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Amateur
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PCM$: 200.00
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Shame to see that there is no leadout stat. Take a guy like Renshaw, not really a top end sprinter, but one of the best leadout men in the world. But Trying to use him in game you often loose positions before your main sprinter launches his sprint. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 10-05-2013 19:22
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World Champion
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Arebuen wrote:
Shame to see that there is no leadout stat. Take a guy like Renshaw, not really a top end sprinter, but one of the best leadout men in the world. But Trying to use him in game you often loose positions before your main sprinter launches his sprint.
There's a flat stat, which helps a lot being in a leadout...
Feyenoord(football) and Kelderman fanboy
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| Malkael |
Posted on 10-05-2013 20:31
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Do the Sprint and Acceleration ratings not matter most by the time Renshaw takes over lead out duties? Assuming he's the last man in the train before your main sprinter shouldn't he be within the game's Sprinting Zone and likely sprinting?
(On hard) Trying to DOT at 90-99 within that 3km finishing stretch once everyone starts winding up just leaves my lead out train too outpaced unless I also sprint. For everything else their people like Adam Hansen and their awesome Flat stat.
Edited by Malkael on 10-05-2013 20:32
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 10-05-2013 20:35
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Malkael wrote:
Do the Sprint and Acceleration ratings not matter most by the time Renshaw takes over lead out duties? Assuming he's the last man in the train before your main sprinter shouldn't he be within the game's Sprinting Zone and likely sprinting?
(On hard) Trying to DOT at 90-99 within that 3km finishing stretch once everyone starts winding up just leaves my lead out train too outpaced unless I also sprint. For everything else their people like Adam Hansen and their awesome Flat stat.
When Renshaw isn't sprinting yet, but having a hard pace(so last 4km) ACC mainly matters(red bar), along with RES(yellow bar) and Flat. When Renshaw is sprinting, it's about his SP stat mainly, but also ACC, FL and RES(little bit) ofcourse.
Feyenoord(football) and Kelderman fanboy
PCMdaily Awards: 12x nomination, 9x runner-up, 0x win.
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| PCM rulezz |
Posted on 11-05-2013 20:51
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Posts: 1446
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PCM$: 200.00
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Is there any new already revealed about the system requirements?
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
It's difficult not to be happy when you're surrounded by Belgians. - Mark Cavendish
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 11-05-2013 20:52
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If you can play PCM12, you'll be able to play PCM13.
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| PCM rulezz |
Posted on 11-05-2013 20:56
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Alakagom wrote:
If you can play PCM12, you'll be able to play PCM13.
That's good news, thanks 
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
It's difficult not to be happy when you're surrounded by Belgians. - Mark Cavendish
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 11-05-2013 22:00
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Tour de France Champion
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Take it with a pinch of salt, though. I can't remember the last time PCM wasn't said to be "backwards compatible" - e.g. PCM07 required the same as PCM06, PCM08 same as PCM07 etc. The requirements are upped a little every time, never huge leaps, but enough to make the water flood over if your computer is already on its limits. |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 11-05-2013 22:09
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Classics Specialist
Posts: 3648
Joined: 31-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
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Yesterday I opened Solitare and the fan started working so hard I thought my computer would take of 
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 11-05-2013 22:10
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Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4813
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cactus-jack wrote:
Yesterday I opened Solitare and the fan started working so hard I thought my computer would take of
Perhaps get a cooler?
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| Ad Bot |
Posted on 05-12-2025 22:28
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 11-05-2013 22:10
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cactus-jack wrote:
Yesterday I opened Solitare and the fan started working so hard I thought my computer would take of
I know that feel bro 
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 11-05-2013 22:21
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Classics Specialist
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The only good thing is that I know I can use it to keep warm... or perhaps melt the polar ice caps.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 12-05-2013 06:34
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Tour de France Champion
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cactus-jack wrote:
The only good thing is that I know I can use it to keep warm... or perhaps melt the polar ice caps.
Then don't buy PCM2013. Really, you want to be solely responsile for melting those nice caps? What did they ever did to you? |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 12-05-2013 13:34
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Ian Butler wrote:
cactus-jack wrote:
The only good thing is that I know I can use it to keep warm... or perhaps melt the polar ice caps.
Then don't buy PCM2013. Really, you want to be solely responsile for melting those nice caps? What did they ever did to you?
Freeze my blood.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 12-05-2013 15:41
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Sprinter
Posts: 1962
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Play the game everyday now. Some of the things I'd like to see improved are in the graphics and other details. I find the gampley in general ok now that I'm mastering more things.
For example some of the classics lack realistic visuals on the terrain. Take the final capos in Milan San-Remo, they're too rural looking in the game to be realistic and there needs to be greater emphasis on the cobbled climbs in the Flanders' classics as I'm never sure which one I'm going up, as the in game profile never indicates which climb you're on and neither does the commentator.
So far I've only done the season using the 2013 database upto the Dwars Door Vlaanderen. So can't comment on the rest of the terrain.
Also like to see greater detail on the riders faces in the close ups, but I guess with every rider having to wear a helmet these days, the importance of face and hair close ups are not so important.
Edited by Tafiolmo on 12-05-2013 15:46
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| roturn |
Posted on 12-05-2013 15:45
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You might be one of the very few players, who are fine with the gameplay and not so much with the graphics.
Of course the graphic can always be improved. In especially with isolated buildings, that make the big classics more outstanding.
But in general the gameplay definitely needs bigger work imo.
And not to forget about the (missing) manager part. |
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 12-05-2013 15:57
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Sprinter
Posts: 1962
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roturn wrote:
You might be one of the very few players, who are fine with the gameplay and not so much with the graphics.
Of course the graphic can always be improved. In especially with isolated buildings, that make the big classics more outstanding.
But in general the gameplay definitely needs bigger work imo.
And not to forget about the (missing) manager part.
I've had the game a couple of months now and never even knew that it existed before this. So as a cycling fanatic I'm intrigued with it and am playing it on 'normal difficulty level' and find it well balanced, so no point in moving up a level yet. When I first started I couldn't do anything properly. Now after a few months I can win bunch sprints, run sprint trains, use the team to help control races, plan when to attack, how to conserve energy, honing my time trial skills still (even though I'm not that great on team trials still) in fact the only thing I'm having problems with is winning in breakaway sprints, which just seems to be down to bad timing by me and still learning the best tactics for stage races and at the moment have only done week tours long such as Paris-Nice, Tirreno-Adriatico and Tour of Catalunya to pick just three.
Have picked up most of this info from tactics in this forum and on You Tube. So I still don't have any big issues with gamplay. What type of problems do you and others find? |
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| anderspcm |
Posted on 12-05-2013 16:32
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Sprinter
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I think the gameplay is fine as it is right now. It is definitely not because of the gameplay, I loose motivation. It is more the manager-part, which is almost non-excistent. As a shirtmaker, I would also like to have improved the graphics of many things. Finally you'll be able to make jerseys, where you can actually identify the logos ingame, and it makes the game a lot better for me. Also the terrain is boring to race in.
Actually I think, that if the terrain would be a lot more detailed, the game would be a lot funnier too. It is the same in real life, if a race have a lot of nature, buildings, citys and so on(like in the giro), it makes the race a lot more exciting, imo. 
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| Lachi |
Posted on 12-05-2013 16:38
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Grand Tour Champion
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I don't care about nature, building, cities and whatsoever when watching a cycling race. They could ride in a totally grey environment. The only thing I am interested in is what the riders do and the gaps between them.
The same is for the game. The road sides and the spectators look the same anyway, so it only lasts a second or so until I know that I am looking at a game anyway.
And we really cannot speak about realism as long as the stages are scaled. In case you did not notice, the roads are in 1:10 scale, so every hill, mountain, house is wrongly scaled as well. But I guess you are happy with the illusion of having nice looking buildings...
Edited by Lachi on 12-05-2013 16:45
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 12-05-2013 16:53
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Sprinter
Posts: 1962
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Like most things in life, the game needs to have quality gameplay and quality and realistic graphics as well. One of the big attractions for cycling is the environment anyway and I at least think the developers should get the correct looking terrain for the really big races and also to get loads of people for the main climbs.
Another point and I don't know if this is possible. At the moment the in game weather is random, can it be changed manually for each race?
Edited by Tafiolmo on 12-05-2013 16:53
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