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Aquarius
"Look at the future and not the past", that's what all dopers say.
That's how you don't learn lessons from the past, and keep repeating mistakes. The past, and current present has to be sorted out before we can move on.
 
Ian Butler
Yeah...
You're overreacting, man. Don't live in the past. I don't say we don't have to learn out of the past, I don't say: forget the past.
I'm just sick of everyone all around the world, including here, associating cycling with doping and seeing nothing beyond it. Cycling is not doping, time you all got that.
 
Miguel98
Ian Butler wrote:
Yeah...
You're overreacting, man. Don't live in the past. I don't say we don't have to learn out of the past, I don't say: forget the past.
I'm just sick of everyone all around the world, including here, associating cycling with doping and seeing nothing beyond it. Cycling is not doping, time you all got that.


We know that. But most people think that Cycling is the ugly duck of sports.
 
kumazan
Cycling isn't doping, but if cycling wants to have a future as a pro sport it must clean all the shit it has accumulated, and keeps accumulating. Hiding it under the carpet won't work, because eventually someone will find out.

And cheaters must be exposed, if only because all the clean riders whose careers were ruined by these frauds.
 
tonymcf
Mario Cipollini was my cycling hero. He hasn't been a hero to me for some time now. A simple reason was this, in 1998 I watched my final Tour de France before reconnecting in 2003. The Festina scandal said "drug" and as a 14 year old boy, I hadn't grasped what that meant. Since coming back to cycling, the issue of doping has been inescapable.

Thus I learned more about what it actually involved. The more revelations and information that was disclosed about the 90's and from then on, the more I realised that I couldn't 100% trust that Cipollini was clean, so I don't really have cycling heroes as such now.

When I clicked on cyclingnews this morning and saw what's being reported, I didn't feel sad. I didn't feel betrayed or angry. It was more a feeling of acceptance, as if I somehow knew that something like this would happen. I think, ultimately, I was prepared for this.

Cycling must face it's past, from the top down, it's the only way to learn anything. I think the sport is cleaner today but doping still exists, so I'm prepared for any revelations still to come.
 
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kumazan
usto wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Any more news on Rodriguez? Will he stay or leave, different sources say different things atm.


He is waiting for the TAS sentence, and if Kathusa isn't WorldTour he will leave.
He has said that if in the end he goes he will do to least expected the team


Last rumour regarding Purito's future:



Edited by CrueTrue on 09-02-2013 17:21
 
Alakagom
Bram Tankink (BLA) got hit by a car during training camp. Off to hospital with suspected broken collarbone.
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Miguel98
Another one? This is getting really bad for ciclists. Looks like you can't train without having to look constantly to see if a car is coming.
 
sutty68
Has there been any update on Jonny Hoogerlands condition Frown
 
roturn
sutty68 wrote:
Has there been any update on Jonny Hoogerlands condition Frown

https://twitter.c...euwseleeuw
 
sutty68
Thanks roturn Wink
 
kumazan
Oh, so apparently we can embed twits again. Thanks Crue. Smile
 
issoisso
kumazan wrote:
usto wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Any more news on Rodriguez? Will he stay or leave, different sources say different things atm.


He is waiting for the TAS sentence, and if Kathusa isn't WorldTour he will leave.
He has said that if in the end he goes he will do to least expected the team


Last rumour regarding Purito's future:




Lampre, huh? Interesting
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
 
kumazan
Yep, if only because the sight of a Lampre rider winning regularly seems something from the past. Pfft Anyway, it makes sense, a team with a decent support for the mountains and the classics, plus they have 4 free spots.
Edited by kumazan on 10-02-2013 12:48
 
Aquarius
Leaving a team that can't make you race where you want because of its dubious ethics to join a team with... very dubious ethics as well.
Makes sense. Frown
 
kumazan
To be fair, at this point in the season, Purito doesn't have much of a chance to pick one or another team. No that I think he cares, though.
 
Wilier
Alakagom wrote:
Bram Tankink (BLA) got hit by a car during training camp. Off to hospital with suspected broken collarbone.


Oh god another Dutch rider...

Are we doomed or are we bad at steering?
 
baseballlover312
What is with every rider being hit by cars on training rides?
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SSJ2Luigi
first it were english riders getting hit by cars and now dutch riders. what's next: the german riders?
 
CrueTrue
kumazan wrote:
Oh, so apparently we can embed twits again. Thanks Crue. Smile


Realised I had forgot to activate it again after the last server move Wink
 
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