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Mountains and the peloton
MacC
Top  #81 Print Post
Posted on 18-07-2012 12:32
purepasd wrote:
MacC wrote:
I have to say i haven't done any big mountians atges yet but I have done the Mountain satge in Oman and Aundulicia ( I think) and the game play was fine- I even attacaked and all

That was in career mode with new patch and real name DB

I just did exactly the same stages, and the gameplay sucked.
1.2.0.0 and RSM.
The peloton came to the finish all together, in all the stages.



Really? Hmmm I will continue and report back.

I should say too that the hilly stages like the one in Australia played very well. again though i attacked and that tore up the bunch.

The races in besseges, marseille etc were realsitic too
 
Pascheck
Top  #82 Print Post
Posted on 18-07-2012 14:34
tellico wrote:
tozequio wrote:
Problem is not just moutain AI. I've run some tests in Amstel Gold Race using PCM 2011 and 2012, and it was defintely better in 2011. For example, in PCM 2011, 30 km from the line, there was already some selection, with a main peloton of some 60 riders, and lots of attacks. In PCM 2012 the pack is almost complete (170 riders), and the one or other attack is quickly overriden by the bunch, which is only natural as teams have all the riders to work.

All tests with the last patch and original Cyanide DB. It seems to me the AI is defintely broken.

I just played Amstel in career mode, and play was great. Lots of attacks, finish Gilbert, Vinokurov and my Chavanel. Next: few small groups and two main. For me its great. Patch 1.1.0.3, DB PCM France v3.




i don't know why you guys have so muany problems with the ai. had a pretty decent liege-bastogne-liege. lot's of attacks.

Spoiler
1Cadel EvansBMC Racing Team6h45'49
2Joaquím RodríguezKatusha Team+ 8
3Andy SchleckRadioShack - Nissan+ 1'11
4Philippe GilbertBMC Racing Team+ 1'20
5Vincenzo NibaliLiquigas - Cannondale+ 1'37
6Simon GerransOrica - GreenEdges.t.
7Thomas VoecklerTeam Europcar+ 1'51
8Enrico GasparottoAstana Pro Team+ 2'10
9Denis MenchovKatusha Team+ 2'45
10Robert GesinkRabobank Cycling Team+ 3'09
11Greg Van AvermaetBMC Racing Team+ 3'18
12Maxime MonfortRadioShack - Nissans.t.
13Daniel MorenoKatusha Teams.t.
14Jan BakelantsRadioShack - Nissans.t.
15Thomas De GendtVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
16Giovanni ViscontiMovistar Teams.t.
17Luis León SánchezRabobank Cycling Team+ 4'18
18Dries DevenynsOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team+ 4'52
19Tom SlagterRabobank Cycling Team+ 5'25
20Alexandre VinokourovAstana Pro Team+ 5'47
21Chris FroomeSky Procycling+ 5'54
22Marco MarcatoVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team+ 15'34
23Michael AlbasiniOrica - GreenEdges.t.
24Óscar FreireKatusha Teams.t.
25Thibaut PinotFDJ - BigMats.t.
26Lars Petter NordhaugSky Procyclings.t.
27Oliver ZauggRadioShack - Nissans.t.
28Vasil KiryienkaMovistar Teams.t.
29Chris HornerRadioShack - Nissans.t.
30Lieuwe WestraVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
31Tiago MachadoRadioShack - Nissans.t.
32Grega BoleLampre - ISDs.t.
33Johann TschoppBMC Racing Teams.t.
34Daniele PietropolliLampre - ISDs.t.
35Paul MartensRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
36Alexandr KolobnevKatusha Teams.t.
37Moreno MoserLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
38Carlos BarredoRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
39Cayetano SarmientoLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
40John DegenkolbTeam Argos - Shimanos.t.
41Wilco KeldermanRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
42Xavier FlorencioKatusha Teams.t.
43David MillarGarmin - Sharps.t.
44Marco PinottiBMC Racing Teams.t.
45Stephen CummingsBMC Racing Teams.t.
46Arthur VichotFDJ - BigMats.t.
47Edvald Boasson HagenSky Procyclings.t.
48Ion IzagirreEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
49Christophe Le MévelGarmin - Sharps.t.
50Zdenek StybarOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
51Pierrick FédrigoFDJ - BigMats.t.
52Joost PosthumaRadioShack - Nissans.t.
53Damiano CarusoLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
54Mauro SantambrogioBMC Racing Teams.t.
55Thomas DekkerGarmin - Sharps.t.
56Karsten KroonTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
57Yury TrofimovKatusha Teams.t.
58Maarten TjallingiiRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
59Danny PateSky Procyclings.t.
60Ben HermansRadioShack - Nissan+ 16'53
61Fredrik KessiakoffAstana Pro Teams.t.
62Paolo TiralongoAstana Pro Teams.t.
63Stijn DevolderVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
64Kevin De WeertOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
65Jérôme PineauOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
66Wout PoelsVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
67Tom DumoulinTeam Argos - Shimanos.t.
68Maxim IglinskiyAstana Pro Teams.t.
69Maarten WynantsRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
70Rui CostaMovistar Teams.t.
71Peter VelitsOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
72Mikel NieveEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
73Diego UlissiLampre - ISDs.t.
74Julien SimonSaur - Sojasuns.t.
75Bert De WaeleLandbouwkrediet - Euphonys.t.
76Roman KreuzigerAstana Pro Teams.t.
77Tejay Van GarderenBMC Racing Teams.t.
78Rubén PlazaMovistar Teams.t.
79Beñat IntxaustiMovistar Teams.t.
80Pieter WeeningOrica - GreenEdges.t.
81Marzio BruseghinMovistar Teams.t.
82Daniel NavarroTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
83Przemyslaw NiemiecLampre - ISDs.t.
84Fabian WegmannGarmin - Sharps.t.
85Nicki SørensenTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
86Cameron MeyerOrica - GreenEdges.t.
87Joost Van LeijenLotto Belisol Teams.t.
88Levi LeipheimerOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
89Jérôme CoppelSaur - Sojasuns.t.
90Matthew LloydLampre - ISDs.t.
91Leonardo BertagnolliLampre - ISDs.t.
92Sylwester SzmydLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
93Andrew TalanskyGarmin - Sharps.t.
94Johnny HoogerlandVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
95David LópezMovistar Teams.t.
96Stuart O'GradyOrica - GreenEdges.t.
97Mikel AstarlozaEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
98Leif HosteAccent Jobs - Willems Veranda'ss.t.
99Simon SpilakKatusha Teams.t.
100Matteo CarraraVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
101Anthony CharteauTeam Europcars.t.
102Amets TxurrukaEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
103Mathieu SprickTeam Argos - Shimanos.t.
104Jürgen Van de WalleLotto Belisol Teams.t.
105Nicolas RocheAG2R La Mondiales.t.
106Arnold JeannessonFDJ - BigMats.t.
107Staf ScheirlinckxAccent Jobs - Willems Veranda'ss.t.
108Egoi MartínezEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
109Pieter JacobsTopsport Vlaanderen - Mercators.t.
110Jérémy RoyFDJ - BigMats.t.
111Jérémie GallandSaur - Sojasuns.t.
112Pieter SerryTopsport Vlaanderen - Mercators.t.
113Kristjan KorenLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
114Koen De KortTeam Argos - Shimanos.t.
115Martin ElmigerAG2R La Mondiales.t.
116Kanstantsin SiutsouSky Procyclings.t.
117Tom DanielsonGarmin - Sharps.t.
118Eros CapecchiLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
119Vincent JérômeTeam Europcars.t.
120Davy CommeyneLandbouwkrediet - Euphonys.t.
121Tanel KangertAstana Pro Teams.t.
122Maciej PaterskiLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
123Thomas DegandAccent Jobs - Willems Veranda'ss.t.
124Alex HowesGarmin - Sharps.t.
125David ArroyoMovistar Teams.t.
126Juan José OrozEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
127Alexandre GeniezTeam Argos - Shimanos.t.
128Daryl ImpeyOrica - GreenEdges.t.
129Jonathan HivertSaur - Sojasuns.t.
130Tony MartinOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
131Sergey LagutinVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
132Thomas LöfkvistSky Procyclings.t.
133Preben Van HeckeTopsport Vlaanderen - Mercators.t.
134Christophe KernTeam Europcars.t.
135David VeilleuxTeam Europcars.t.
136Dimitriy MuravyevAstana Pro Teams.t.
137Benoît VaugrenardFDJ - BigMats.t.
138Blel KadriAG2R La Mondiales.t.
139Pablo UrtasunEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
140Sérgio PaulinhoTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
141Simon ClarkeOrica - GreenEdges.t.
142Michal GolasOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
143David Le LaySaur - Sojasuns.t.
144Davide MalacarneTeam Europcars.t.
145Bruno PiresTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
146Peter KennaughSky Procyclings.t.
147Guillaume LevarletSaur - Sojasuns.t.
148Gianni MeersmanLotto Belisol Teams.t.
149Cyril LemoineSaur - Sojasuns.t.
150Simon GeschkeTeam Argos - Shimanos.t.
151Pieter VanspeybroeckTopsport Vlaanderen - Mercators.t.
152Sébastien DelfosseLandbouwkrediet - Euphonys.t.
153Zico WaeytensTopsport Vlaanderen - Mercators.t.
154Christian KneesSky Procyclings.t.
155Rémi PauriolFDJ - BigMats.t.
156Julian DeanOrica - GreenEdges.t.
157Francis De GreefLotto Belisol Teams.t.
158Bart De ClercqLotto Belisol Teams.t.
159Morris PossoniLampre - ISDs.t.
160Kevyn IstaAccent Jobs - Willems Veranda'ss.t.
161Jurgen Van GoolenAccent Jobs - Willems Veranda'ss.t.
162Alexander KvachukLampre - ISDs.t.
163Jussi VeikkanenFDJ - BigMats.t.
164Frederik WillemsLotto Belisol Teams.t.
165Dennis VanendertLotto Belisol Teams.t.
166Olivier KaisenLotto Belisol Teams.t.
167Dirk BellemakersLandbouwkrediet - Euphonys.t.
168Bobbie TrakselLandbouwkrediet - Euphonys.t.
169Rinaldo NocentiniAG2R La Mondiales.t.
170Christopher Juul-JensenTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
171Thomas PetersonGarmin - Sharps.t.
172Sven NysLandbouwkrediet - Euphonys.t.
173Ricardo GarcíaEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
174Matteo PelucchiTeam Europcars.t.
175Sven VandousselaereTopsport Vlaanderen - Mercators.t.
176Chris Anker SørensenTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
177Troels Ronning VintherTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
178Dominique CornuTopsport Vlaanderen - Mercators.t.
179Sébastien TurgotTeam Europcars.t.
180Tobias LudvigssonTeam Argos - Shimano+ 20'00
181Eliot LietaerTopsport Vlaanderen - Mercators.t.
182Reinier HonigLandbouwkrediet - Euphony+ 20'21
183Stéphane PoulhièsSaur - Sojasuns.t.
184Stefan Van DijkAccent Jobs - Willems Veranda'ss.t.
185Evert VerbistAccent Jobs - Willems Veranda's+ 21'36
186Wim De VochtAccent Jobs - Willems Veranda'ss.t.
187Tom VeelersTeam Argos - Shimano+ 22'17
188Joeri StallaertLandbouwkrediet - Euphony+ 38'00
189John GadretAG2R La Mondiales.t.
190Matteo MontagutiAG2R La Mondiales.t.
191Romain BardetAG2R La Mondiales.t.
192Guillaume BonnafondAG2R La Mondiales.t.
 
Lachi
Top  #83 Print Post
Posted on 18-07-2012 14:36
@Pascheck: Which patch? Which DB? Which difficulty?
 
Pascheck
Top  #84 Print Post
Posted on 18-07-2012 15:12
Lachi wrote:
@Pascheck: Which patch? Which DB? Which difficulty?


patch 1.2.0.0
pcm daily expansion pack for patch 1.2.0.0
hard difficulty
only classic race mode, no career mode
took team argos and doing absolute nothing to see what will happen.
 
chraanz
Top  #85 Print Post
Posted on 18-07-2012 15:31
I just did the Mountain stage in Criterium International in carreer mode:
patch 1.2.0.0
pcm daily expansion pack for patch 1.2.0.0
Hard difficulty
I was riding with Francaise des Jeux, and I was not putting any pressure on the pack.

Spoiler
Rank Name Team Time
1 Marzio Bruseghin Movistar Team 4h55'47
2 Blel Kadri AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
3 Pierre Rolland Team Europcar + 17
4 Pierrick Fédrigo FDJ - BigMat + 32
5 Jérémy Roy FDJ - BigMat + 48
6 Giovanni Visconti Movistar Team + 58
7 Javier Moreno Movistar Team s.t.
8 David López Movistar Team s.t.
9 Stefano Locatelli Colnago - CSF Inox s.t.
10 Jesús Herrada Movistar Team s.t.
11 Dimitri Champion Bretagne - Schuller s.t.
12 Fabio Felline Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
13 Nicolas Vogondy Cofidis, le crédit en ligne s.t.
14 Sylvain Georges AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
15 Vegard Stake Laengen Team Type 1 - Sanofi s.t.
16 Mikel Nieve Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
17 Bartosz Huzarski Team NetApp s.t.
18 Reto Hollenstein Team NetApp + 1'28
19 Miguel Rubiano Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela + 2'13
20 Rory Sutherland UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling Team s.t.
21 Rudy Molard Cofidis, le crédit en ligne s.t.
22 David Arroyo Movistar Team + 3'46
23 José Rujano Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela + 3'55
24 Leopold König Team NetApp s.t.
25 Guillaume Bonnafond AG2R La Mondiale + 4'05
26 John Degenkolb Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
27 Boris Shpilevski AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
28 Yann Huguet Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
29 Mathieu Sprick Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
30 Jean-Marc Marino Saur - Sojasun + 4'40
31 José Serpa Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela + 5'12
32 Jackson Rodríguez Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
33 Filippo Savini Colnago - CSF Inox s.t.
34 Romain Hardy Bretagne - Schuller + 7'26
35 Geoffroy Lequatre Bretagne - Schuller s.t.
36 Jesús Rosendo Andalucía s.t.
37 Rémy Cusin Team Type 1 - Sanofi s.t.
38 Egoitz García Cofidis, le crédit en ligne s.t.
39 Ben Gastauer AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
40 Arthur Vichot FDJ - BigMat s.t.
41 Arnold Jeannesson FDJ - BigMat s.t.
42 Davide Frattini UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling Team s.t.
43 Guillaume Blot Bretagne - Schuller s.t.
44 Renaud Dion Bretagne - Schuller s.t.
45 Jérôme Baugnies Team NetApp s.t.
46 Thierry Hupond Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
47 Christopher Jones UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling Team s.t.
48 Thomas Bonnin Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
49 Yukihiro Doi Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
50 Giovanni Bernaudeau Team Europcar s.t.
51 Thomas Damuseau Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
52 Stefano Pirazzi Colnago - CSF Inox s.t.
53 Gregor Gazvoda AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
54 Yoann Bagot Cofidis, le crédit en ligne s.t.
55 Matthias Brändle Team NetApp s.t.
56 Tomás Gil Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela + 8'16
57 Cesare Benedetti Team NetApp + 8'59
58 Paul Poux Saur - Sojasun + 9'15
59 Tony Hurel Team Europcar s.t.
60 Javier Megías Team Type 1 - Sanofi + 10'22
61 Jeff Louder UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling Team + 10'45
62 Kevin Lalouette Roubaix Lille Métropole s.t.
63 Matteo Pelucchi Team Europcar s.t.
64 Luis Ángel Maté Cofidis, le crédit en ligne s.t.
65 Maxime Méderel Saur - Sojasun s.t.
66 Steve Houanard AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
67 Riccardo Chiarini Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
68 Matthieu Halleguen Bretagne - Schuller s.t.
69 Laurent Pichon Bretagne - Schuller s.t.
70 Florian Vachon Bretagne - Schuller s.t.
71 Paolo Locatelli Colnago - CSF Inox + 11'54
72 Roy Curvers Team Argos - Shimano + 12'22
73 Marco Coledan Colnago - CSF Inox + 17'11
74 Nicola Boem Colnago - CSF Inox + 17'50
75 Giairo Ermeti Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
76 Julien Guay Roubaix Lille Métropole + 19'56
77 Loïc Desriac Roubaix Lille Métropole + 20'04
78 Romain Lemarchand AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
79 Stéphane Poulhiès Saur - Sojasun s.t.
80 Joey Rosskopf Team Type 1 - Sanofi s.t.
81 Cyril Bessy Saur - Sojasun + 21'00
82 Cristian Delle Stelle Colnago - CSF Inox + 21'30
83 Ben Day UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling Team s.t.
84 Cédric Pineau FDJ - BigMat s.t.
85 Edwig Cammaerts Cofidis, le crédit en ligne s.t.
86 Jay Thomson UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling Team s.t.
87 Geoffrey Soupe FDJ - BigMat s.t.
88 José Luis Roldán Andalucía + 22'55
89 Javier Ramírez Abeja Andalucía + 23'26
90 Jose Aguilar Andalucía + 24'12
91 Michael Schwarzmann Team NetApp + 24'43
92 Robert Förster UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling Team s.t.
93 William Dugan Team Type 1 - Sanofi s.t.
94 Jordi Simón Andalucía s.t.
95 Anthony Colin Roubaix Lille Métropole s.t.
96 André Schulze Team NetApp s.t.
97 Juan José Lobato Andalucía s.t.
98 Jake Keough UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling Team s.t.
99 Arnaud Demare FDJ - BigMat s.t.
100 Boris Zimine Roubaix Lille Métropole s.t.
101 Antonio Cabello Andalucía s.t.
102 Denis Flahaut Roubaix Lille Métropole + 26'57
103 Andrea Piechele Colnago - CSF Inox + 27'30
104 José Luis Cano Andalucía + 27'52
105 Joe Eldridge Team Type 1 - Sanofi s.t.
106 Alex Bowden Team Type 1 - Sanofi s.t.


Pretty realistic result. Should say that Rolland attacked early on the second climb, and was caught by Bruseghin and Kadri, who was in the pack all the way.
The pack, which in the end consisted of 12 riders, was led by Movistar all the way in the climb, until Bruseghin attacked at the last 2 km's.
 
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purepasd
Top  #86 Print Post
Posted on 18-07-2012 15:38
Hmm.. Could be the RSM-News DB's fault, due to the general high stats, i don't know..
 
kirtley9
Top  #87 Print Post
Posted on 18-07-2012 20:24
Whats everyone tactics in the mountains and hills? I just played a hilly stage and on a small climb before the finish i put my rider on self effort 80 and most of the peloton just flew past him.
 
Lachi
Top  #88 Print Post
Posted on 18-07-2012 20:31
This is not the correct thread to discuss it.
Also this forum has a section called "tips and tricks" which should answer most of your questions: https://pcmdaily.c...tricks.php
 
Coramoor
Top  #89 Print Post
Posted on 20-07-2012 02:56
Are you sure you understand how to play mountain stage?

I've never had even slightly off results, Couple of times a strong rider bombed but that was probably a fitness issue. I'm talking staggered results from a 20-30 man group on moderate climbs and on the big HC climbs 5 men tops in the last 3km or so
 
lettini
Top  #90 Print Post
Posted on 20-07-2012 13:51
here is my first mountain stage with patch 1200 and pcm daily expansion pack
seems to me pretty realistic



Spoiler


Andy Schleck RadioShack - Nissan 5h56'12
Damiano Cunego Lampre - ISD + 1'26
Michele Scarponi Lampre - ISD + 2'06
Jurgen Van den Broeck Lotto Belisol Team + 2'27
Thomas De Gendt Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 2'58
John Gadret AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
Ryder Hesjedal Garmin - Sharp + 3'28
Cadel Evans BMC Racing Team + 4'15
José Rujano Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela + 6'02
Paolo Tiralongo Astana Pro Team s.t.
Ivan Basso Liquigas - Cannondale + 8'48
Tejay Van Garderen BMC Racing Team s.t.
Dario Cataldo Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
Domenico Pozzovivo Colnago - CSF Inox s.t.
Levi Leipheimer Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
Jakob Fuglsang RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
Franco Pellizotti Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
Rigoberto Urán Sky Procycling s.t.
Mikel Nieve Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
Nairo Quintana Movistar Team s.t.
Luis León Sánchez Rabobank Cycling Team + 9'29
Diego Ulissi Lampre - ISD s.t.
Nicolas Roche AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
Denis Menchov Katusha Team + 9'59
Wout Poels Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 10'22
Sergio Henao Sky Procycling + 12'54
Robert Kiserlovski Astana Pro Team + 13'02
Gianluca Brambilla Colnago - CSF Inox + 13'27
Steven Kruijswijk Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
Chris Anker Sørensen Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
Juan José Cobo Movistar Team s.t.
Tiago Machado RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
Daniel Navarro Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank + 13'58
Christophe Le Mével Garmin - Sharp + 14'17
Matteo Carrara Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
Sylwester Szmyd Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
Simon Spilak Katusha Team s.t.
Janez Brajkovič Astana Pro Team + 14'39
Vladimir Karpets Movistar Team s.t.
Lars Petter Nordhaug Sky Procycling + 14'49
Peter Velits Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
Richie Porte Sky Procycling + 14'58
Kanstantsin Siutsou Sky Procycling + 15'11
Giampaolo Caruso Katusha Team + 15'47
Javier Moreno Movistar Team + 16'17
Daniel Moreno Katusha Team + 16'48
Christian Vande Velde Garmin - Sharp + 16'59
Hubert Dupont AG2R La Mondiale + 17'54
Rubén Plaza Movistar Team + 18'01
Fredrik Kessiakoff Astana Pro Team s.t.
Sergey Lagutin Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
Tom Slagter Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
Sandy Casar FDJ - BigMat s.t.
Bradley Wiggins Sky Procycling s.t.
Cayetano Sarmiento Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
Rafael Valls Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
Peter Stetina Garmin - Sharp s.t.
Miguel Rubiano Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
Bruno Pires Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
Yury Trofimov Katusha Team s.t.
Daniele Pietropolli Lampre - ISD + 18'52
Matthias Frank BMC Racing Team s.t.
Ion Izagirre Euskaltel - Euskadi + 19'06
Leopold König Team NetApp s.t.
Dominik Nerz Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
Francis De Greef Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
Christian Knees Sky Procycling s.t.
Winner Anacona Lampre - ISD s.t.
Tanel Kangert Astana Pro Team + 19'47
Mathieu Perget AG2R La Mondiale + 20'07
Francesco Failli Farnese Vini - Selle Italia + 20'27
Luca Ascani Farnese Vini - Selle Italia s.t.
Stefano Pirazzi Colnago - CSF Inox s.t.
Sérgio Paulinho Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
David Zabriskie Garmin - Sharp + 20'46
Arnold Jeannesson FDJ - BigMat s.t.
Matteo Rabottini Farnese Vini - Selle Italia s.t.
Eros Capecchi Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
Thomas Rohregger RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
Wilco Kelderman Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
Emanuele Sella Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela + 21'14
Michael Rogers Sky Procycling s.t.
Przemyslaw Niemiec Lampre - ISD s.t.
Vladimir Gusev Katusha Team + 21'31
Gorka Verdugo Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
Oliver Zaugg RadioShack - Nissan + 21'43
David López Movistar Team s.t.
Guillaume Bonnafond AG2R La Mondiale + 21'51
Morris Possoni Lampre - ISD + 22'17
Kevin De Weert Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 22'43
Dries Devenyns Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 22'53
Blel Kadri AG2R La Mondiale + 23'18
Kevin Seeldraeyers Astana Pro Team + 23'59
Gustav Erik Larsson Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
Egoi Martínez Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
Bart De Clercq Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
Leonardo Bertagnolli Lampre - ISD + 24'25
Gorka Izagirre Euskaltel - Euskadi + 24'32
Serge Pauwels Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 24'47
Johann Tschopp BMC Racing Team + 24'57
Matthias Brändle Team NetApp + 25'17
Jonathan Monsalve Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela + 26'27
Alberto Losada Katusha Team + 26'58
Marco Marzano Lampre - ISD + 28'07
Alexsandr Dyachenko Astana Pro Team + 31'41
Philippe Gilbert BMC Racing Team s.t.
Amets Txurruka Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
Jan Bakelants RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
Mikel Astarloza Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
Damiano Caruso Liquigas - Cannondale + 31'58
Rémi Pauriol FDJ - BigMat s.t.
Jérémy Roy FDJ - BigMat s.t.
Alexandre Vinokourov Astana Pro Team s.t.
Jesús Hernández Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
Matthew Busche RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
José Serpa Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
Giovanni Visconti Movistar Team s.t.
Yaroslav Popovych RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
Pavel Brutt Katusha Team s.t.
Sylvain Georges AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
Jan Barta Team NetApp s.t.
Fabio Aru Astana Pro Team s.t.
Kenny Elissonde FDJ - BigMat s.t.
Pieter Weening Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
Grischa Niermann Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
Andrew Talansky Garmin - Sharp s.t.
Michael Albasini Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
Luca Mazzanti Farnese Vini - Selle Italia s.t.
Johnny Hoogerland Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
Enrico Battaglin Colnago - CSF Inox s.t.
Nicki Sørensen Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
Alfredo Balloni Farnese Vini - Selle Italia s.t.
Ángel Vicioso Katusha Team s.t.
Thomas Peterson Garmin - Sharp s.t.
Juan José Oroz Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
Bram Tankink Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
Tony Gallopin RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
David Millar Garmin - Sharp s.t.
Riccardo Chiarini Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
José Joaquín Rojas Movistar Team s.t.
Laurens Ten Dam Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
Thomas Dekker Garmin - Sharp s.t.
Cameron Meyer Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
Jackson Rodríguez Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
Moreno Moser Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
Jürgen Van de Walle Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
Stefano Locatelli Colnago - CSF Inox s.t.
Mikaël Chérel AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
Martin Elmiger AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
Filippo Savini Colnago - CSF Inox s.t.
Maciej Paterski Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
Romain Sicard Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
Romain Feillu Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
Kristjan Koren Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
Gianni Meersman Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
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Mauro Santambrogio BMC Racing Team + 37'58
Elia Favilli Farnese Vini - Selle Italia + 39'13
Benoît Vaugrenard FDJ - BigMat s.t.
Bartosz Huzarski Team NetApp s.t.
Fabio Felline Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
Carlos Barredo Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
Steve Chainel FDJ - BigMat s.t.
Stuart O'Grady Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
Luke Durbridge Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
Reto Hollenstein Team NetApp s.t.
Christian Meier Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
Volodymir Gustov Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
Jérôme Pineau Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
Michal Golas Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
Geoffrey Soupe FDJ - BigMat s.t.
Tosh Van der Sande Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
Nicola Boem Colnago - CSF Inox s.t.
Paolo Locatelli Colnago - CSF Inox s.t.
Marcel Wyss Team NetApp s.t.
Frederik Willems Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
Michael Schär BMC Racing Team + 44'24
Matteo Tosatto Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
Simon Clarke Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
Leonardo Giordani Farnese Vini - Selle Italia s.t.
Arthur Vichot FDJ - BigMat s.t.
Daryl Impey Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
Rafael de Mattos Andriato Farnese Vini - Selle Italia s.t.
Oscar Gatto Farnese Vini - Selle Italia + 44'46
Tomas Vaitkus Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
Daniel Schorn Team NetApp s.t.
Jérôme Baugnies Team NetApp s.t.
Joost Van Leijen Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
Francisco José Ventoso Movistar Team s.t.
Jürgen Roelandts Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
Mark Cavendish Sky Procycling s.t.
Marco Canola Colnago - CSF Inox + 45'21
Taylor Phinney BMC Racing Team + 51'15
Juan José Haedo Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
Kenny Van Hummel Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 51'38
Danilo Wyss BMC Racing Team + 53'28

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9-Ball
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Posted on 20-07-2012 16:09
I'm still getting only reasonable results using 1.2.0 and PCM Daily Expansion, on Hard difficulty. I think most of these wildly erroneous results people complain of are related to use of bad databases.
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
 
diogo288
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Posted on 20-07-2012 17:50
I'm playing with Daily Expansion Pack, Patch 1.2.0 and in Hard difficulty.
Every stage i race, the peloton only reduces into 30 riders on the last climb, with the attacks. I put my team working hard, and Cavendish wasn't dropped until the last climb...

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And this guy made it until the end with 58 on mountain!!

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Coramoor
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Posted on 20-07-2012 21:07
use the default stats then, i just had more of a breakup in the tour down under, in fact, at the top of the climb, there was only 6 people within 45 seconds of the leader, a group of 21 riders were 53 seconds back, including one guy who probably shouldn't have been, but he was probably just at better fitness then quite a few other guys who got dropped
 
valverde321
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Posted on 23-07-2012 05:06
Finally had time to play a mountain stage in Career on Patch 1.200 with the Daily db.
I played the first mountain stage of the Vuelta with Pinot at 78 Mountain.
I got to the climb, and I thought Pinot was doing well. Sitting at the front, then an attack went, so I decided to lift the pace with Jeannesson protecting him, and Pinot on 85 dot. To my surpsise, Pinot was not losing energy at all, but he quickly dropped to the back of the peloton.

I will test some more stages out, but I think earlier in the career attacking early, got me caught almost right away and then dropped.

I am fairly confident that the new patch does this, but if not, I guess the only guess would be the high RES stats in the Daily db.
I will test a few more career mountains with Daily, then if its hopeless try, a realname db in career.

If that doesn't work, I have 1.0.2.0 installed and can try that version.

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icksdeh
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Posted on 23-07-2012 09:53
valverde321 wrote:
Finally had time to play a mountain stage in Career on Patch 1.200 with the Daily db.
I played the first mountain stage of the Vuelta with Pinot at 78 Mountain.
I got to the climb, and I thought Pinot was doing well. Sitting at the front, then an attack went, so I decided to lift the pace with Jeannesson protecting him, and Pinot on 85 dot. To my surpsise, Pinot was not losing energy at all, but he quickly dropped to the back of the peloton.

I will test some more stages out, but I think earlier in the career attacking early, got me caught almost right away and then dropped.

I am fairly confident that the new patch does this, but if not, I guess the only guess would be the high RES stats in the Daily db.
I will test a few more career mountains with Daily, then if its hopeless try, a realname db in career.

If that doesn't work, I have 1.0.2.0 installed and can try that version.


My guess is that the different gameplay is due to AI riders being exhausted.
 
icksdeh
Top  #96 Print Post
Posted on 23-07-2012 09:53
valverde321 wrote:
Finally had time to play a mountain stage in Career on Patch 1.200 with the Daily db.
I played the first mountain stage of the Vuelta with Pinot at 78 Mountain.
I got to the climb, and I thought Pinot was doing well. Sitting at the front, then an attack went, so I decided to lift the pace with Jeannesson protecting him, and Pinot on 85 dot. To my surpsise, Pinot was not losing energy at all, but he quickly dropped to the back of the peloton.

I will test some more stages out, but I think earlier in the career attacking early, got me caught almost right away and then dropped.

I am fairly confident that the new patch does this, but if not, I guess the only guess would be the high RES stats in the Daily db.
I will test a few more career mountains with Daily, then if its hopeless try, a realname db in career.

If that doesn't work, I have 1.0.2.0 installed and can try that version.


My guess is that the different gameplay is due to AI riders being exhausted.
 
valverde321
Top  #97 Print Post
Posted on 25-07-2012 00:19
I dont know if this is normal, but playing on Extreme I dominated a mountain stage (against the relative GC riders) as a break was 15mins up the road.

Pinot followed a few attacks by Contador, Sanchez and Purito, then he went on 80 dot and kinda just rode 20 seconds ahead of the 67 man peloton. Frown

But at 4km left I upped his pace to 85 and then attacked with 2km to go. I pulled away from riders which were 5 mountain points higher (7 if you count Extreme difficulty.) As good as it seemed it just didn't seem right.

Also there weren't huge pelotons in the old patch.

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diogo288
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Posted on 25-07-2012 02:47
valverde321 wrote:

Also there weren't huge pelotons in the old patch.


Exaclty, without the last patch, gameplay is very good
 
valverde321
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Posted on 25-07-2012 03:27
I have come up with a theory:

The game is ruined. What the fuck have Cyanide done? I protected this game, because I found it really fun, up until this latest patch. But now, I am getting no enjoyment out of the game.

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baseballlover312
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Posted on 25-07-2012 03:57
valverde321 wrote:
I have come up with a theory:

The game is ruined. What the fuck have Cyanide done? I protected this game, because I found it really fun, up until this latest patch. But now, I am getting no enjoyment out of the game.


Try CYM 4! Pfft
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