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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 14-10-2011 15:14
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
Neat, I knew who Ruben Lampe was before Pedro Merino, who rode for a PT team. 
And I also couldn't resist googling Ruben Lampe and found some funny, yet weird, things.
Did you know, Ruben is a world Famous Mountain Biker?
He certainly is, with 65 votes for the best MTB of 2005 
I've heard of that, yes, but what I found had nothing to do with MTB...  |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 14-10-2011 15:49
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FreitasPCM wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
Neat, I knew who Ruben Lampe was before Pedro Merino, who rode for a PT team.
And I also couldn't resist googling Ruben Lampe and found some funny, yet weird, things.
Did you know, Ruben is a world Famous Mountain Biker?
He certainly is, with 65 votes for the best MTB of 2005
I've heard of that, yes, but what I found had nothing to do with MTB...
This?
https://mirror.unc...mas_Dekker
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| ruben |
Posted on 14-10-2011 16:01
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Lol, that's from the CyM2/CyM3 time. With Andy McDobbin and his downhill speeds |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 14-10-2011 16:06
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valverde321 wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
Neat, I knew who Ruben Lampe was before Pedro Merino, who rode for a PT team.
And I also couldn't resist googling Ruben Lampe and found some funny, yet weird, things.
Did you know, Ruben is a world Famous Mountain Biker?
He certainly is, with 65 votes for the best MTB of 2005
I've heard of that, yes, but what I found had nothing to do with MTB...
This?
https://mirror.unc...mas_Dekker
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 14-10-2011 17:28
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Finally.. our first race(s) of the season! In general, I don't used to do reports for National Championships, but things have changed with Allan Davis joining our team 
Complete Startlist RR:
Spoiler GreenEdge
1. H.Haussler
2. G.M.Bates
3. B.Cooke
4. C.Evans
5. S.Gerrans
6. T.Meyer
7. M.Rogers
8. W.Sulzberger
9. R.Sutherland
The Shack
11. M.Lloyd
12. S.Clarke
13. T.Lowe
Leopard
21. R.Porte
22. T.Nankervis
23. M.Renshaw
Dark Dog
31. A.Davis
32. J.Bobridge
33. N.Grimshaw
34. L.Howard
35. C.Sutton
Pegasus
41. C.Meyer
Skil
51. M.Docker
Rabobank
61. M.Matthews
62. G.Brown
63. R.Dennis
Saxo Bank
71. D.Tanner
72. L.Roberts
Telenet - Fidea
81. B.Lancaster
Liquigas
91. C.Wurf
UnitedHealthcare
101. J.Clarke
102. H.Clarke
103. K.Menzies
Sky
111. Z.Dempster
112. M.Hayman
Team Type 1
121. Benj.King
122. F.Calabria
Garmin
131. S.Bryce
North Face - BMC
141. T.Roe
Veranda's
151. D.Kemp
Endura Racing
161. J.Anderson
PSK Whirlpool
171. J.Prete
Complete Startlist ITT:
Spoiler Rabobank
1. M.Matthews
2. G.Brown
3. R.Dennis
GreenEdge
11. C.Evans
12. B.Cooke
13. L.Durbridge
14. M.Goss
15. H.Haussler
16. T.Meyer
17. M.Rogers
18. R.Sutherland
19. J.Walker
Dark Dog
21. J.Bobridge
22. C.Sutton
Leopard
31. R.Porte
32. T.Nankervis
33. M.Renshaw
Pegasus
41. C.Meyer
Garmin
51. S.Bryce
Liquigas
61. C.Wurf
Telenet - Fidea
71. B.Lancaster
Veranda's
81. D.Kemp
Sky
91. Z.Dempster
92. M.Hayman
Team Type 1
101. Benj.King
102. F.Calabria
Skil
111. M.Docker
Saxo Bank
121. L.Roberts
122. D.Tanner
Endura Racing
131. J.Anderson
North Face - BMC
141. T.Roe
The Shack
151. T.Lowe
152. S.Clarke
153. M.Lloyd
UnitedHealthcare
161. J.Clarke
162. H.Clarke
163. K.Menzies
PSK Whirlpool
171. J.Prete
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| rorzcp |
Posted on 14-10-2011 18:07
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GreenEDGE Can hold the race together so easily, |
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| vangerner |
Posted on 14-10-2011 18:18
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rorzcp wrote:
GreenEDGE Can hold the race together so easily,
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 14-10-2011 21:40
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@vangerner/rorzcp: Yep
Here's the RR-report..
Complete Results
Spoiler | 1 | Heinrich Haussler | GreenEdge Cycling | 4h31'05 | | 2 | Hilton Clarke | UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 3 | Graeme Brown | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 4 | Gene Michael Bates | GreenEdge Cycling | s.t. | | 5 | Matthew Lloyd | RadioShack - Nissan Cycling Team | s.t. | | 6 | Matthew Hayman | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 7 | Tommy Nankervis | Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 8 | Allan Davis | Team Dark Dog - Sinopec | s.t. | | 9 | Michael Rogers | GreenEdge Cycling | s.t. | | 10 | Cadel Evans | GreenEdge Cycling | s.t. | | 11 | Michael Matthews | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 12 | Richie Porte | Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 13 | Simon Gerrans | GreenEdge Cycling | s.t. | | 14 | Brett Lancaster | Telenet - Fidea | s.t. | | 15 | Jonathan Clarke | UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 16 | Jack Anderson | Endura Racing | s.t. | | 17 | Benjamin King | Team Type 1 | s.t. | | 18 | David Kemp | Veranda's Willems - Accent | s.t. | | 19 | Cameron Meyer | Team Pegasus | s.t. | | 20 | Simon Clarke | RadioShack - Nissan Cycling Team | s.t. | | 21 | Stu Bryce | Team Garmin - Cervélo | s.t. | | 22 | Zakkari Dempster | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 23 | David Tanner | Saxo Bank SunGard | s.t. | | 24 | Cameron Wurf | Liquigas - Cannondale | s.t. | | 25 | Christopher Sutton | Team Dark Dog - Sinopec | s.t. | | 26 | Mark Renshaw | Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 27 | Joshua Prete | PSK Whirlpool - Author | s.t. | | 28 | Baden Cooke | GreenEdge Cycling | s.t. | | 29 | Karl Menzies | UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 30 | Rohan Dennis | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 31 | Fabio Calabria | Team Type 1 | s.t. | | 32 | Rory Sutherland | GreenEdge Cycling | s.t. | | 33 | Mitchell Docker | Skil - Shimano | s.t. | | 34 | Timothy Roe | The North Face - BMC | s.t. | | 35 | Travis Meyer | GreenEdge Cycling | s.t. | | 36 | Trent Lowe | RadioShack - Nissan Cycling Team | s.t. | | 37 | Luke Roberts | Saxo Bank SunGard | s.t. | | 38 | Leigh Howard | Team Dark Dog - Sinopec | s.t. | | 39 | Nik Grimshaw | Team Dark Dog - Sinopec | + 59 | | 40 | Wesley Sulzberger | GreenEdge Cycling | + 2'46 | | 41 | Jack Bobridge | Team Dark Dog - Sinopec | + 3'07 |
NEW FEATURE - Pic(k) of the day
Spoiler 
Travis Meyer celebrates his teammate's win..
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 14-10-2011 21:53
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Too bad Davis had lost too much energy.
I like the pic of the day feature 
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| dienblad |
Posted on 14-10-2011 21:56
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The start is promising and familiar as usual. Keep it up!
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 15-10-2011 13:40
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@Spilak23: I better had waited for the bunch-sprint with Davis  But Lloyd's attack and Haussler's counter looked strong. If Bobridge would have been in the pack, too, we would have tried to counter with him and not Davis..
And thanks: Glad you like the Pic of the day! It's for the people, who still prefer this single-pics-reports
@dienbald: Thanks for your support!
The ITT-report will be online later this day! Stay tuned.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 15-10-2011 13:44
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Too bad Davis tired out. Still a nice result though.
And as the others, I like the pic of the day. Nice idea.
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| vangerner |
Posted on 15-10-2011 19:55
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And I also like the pic of the day
Too bad that Davis was too tired from his earlier attack.. And Haussler can thank his team mates for keeping the whole race together ! |
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 15-10-2011 20:14
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Thank you, Pelli2 and vangerner! Davis tired out, my fault He did well in the sprint though, yes, but we could have achieved more with Bobridge not crashing.. and again, glad you like the pic of the day
Here's the ITT-result and our (short) calendar for January 2013:
Complete Results:
Spoiler | 1 | Michael Matthews | Rabobank Cycling Team | 54'41 | | 2 | Cadel Evans | GreenEdge Cycling | + 2 | | 3 | Stu Bryce | Team Garmin - Cervélo | + 6 | | 4 | Michael Rogers | GreenEdge Cycling | + 7 | | 5 | Heinrich Haussler | GreenEdge Cycling | + 17 | | 6 | Jack Bobridge | Team Dark Dog - Sinopec | + 21 | | 7 | Johnnie Walker | GreenEdge Cycling | + 24 | | 8 | Richie Porte | Leopard Trek | + 34 | | 9 | Rohan Dennis | Rabobank Cycling Team | + 40 | | 10 | Cameron Wurf | Liquigas - Cannondale | + 1'00 | | 11 | Cameron Meyer | Team Pegasus | + 1'09 | | 12 | Rory Sutherland | GreenEdge Cycling | + 1'11 | | 13 | Travis Meyer | GreenEdge Cycling | s.t. | | 14 | Jack Anderson | Endura Racing | + 1'17 | | 15 | Zakkari Dempster | Sky ProCycling | + 1'18 | | 16 | David Kemp | Veranda's Willems - Accent | + 1'24 | | 17 | Brett Lancaster | Telenet - Fidea | + 1'26 | | 18 | Luke Roberts | Saxo Bank SunGard | + 1'28 | | 19 | Luke Durbridge | GreenEdge Cycling | + 1'36 | | 20 | Baden Cooke | GreenEdge Cycling | + 1'37 | | 21 | Benjamin King | Team Type 1 | + 1'43 | | 22 | Tommy Nankervis | Leopard Trek | + 2'03 | | 23 | Mitchell Docker | Skil - Shimano | + 2'09 | | 24 | Matthew Hayman | Sky ProCycling | + 2'16 | | 25 | Matthew Goss | GreenEdge Cycling | + 2'20 | | 26 | David Tanner | Saxo Bank SunGard | s.t. | | 27 | Christopher Sutton | Team Dark Dog - Sinopec | + 2'21 | | 28 | Karl Menzies | UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling | + 2'24 | | 29 | Matthew Lloyd | RadioShack - Nissan Cycling Team | + 2'25 | | 30 | Timothy Roe | The North Face - BMC | + 2'31 | | 31 | Trent Lowe | RadioShack - Nissan Cycling Team | + 2'33 | | 32 | Joshua Prete | PSK Whirlpool - Author | + 2'42 | | 33 | Hilton Clarke | UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling | + 2'45 | | 34 | Jonathan Clarke | UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling | + 2'49 | | 35 | Simon Clarke | RadioShack - Nissan Cycling Team | + 3'11 | | 36 | Fabio Calabria | Team Type 1 | + 3'14 | | 37 | Graeme Brown | Rabobank Cycling Team | + 3'15 | | 38 | Mark Renshaw | Leopard Trek | + 3'17 |
Team Dark Dog's schedule for January 2013:
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 15-10-2011 20:26
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It's funny how Matthews is a rather weak sprinter but developed in such an extraordinary time trialist.
I really like the story so far (of course I didn't expect anything else ) and I'm sure the results will be corresponding soon!
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 15-10-2011 20:31
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Same thing happens with Kittel sometimes, gets high values at time-trial, and then average ones in sprint.
Positive start, with a top-10. Bobridge did his best, that's for sure. |
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| laidbackmarc |
Posted on 15-10-2011 20:35
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No glory for Dark Dog yet, but the screens is really looking great to me!
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| ruben |
Posted on 15-10-2011 21:21
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FreitasPCM wrote:
Same thing happens with Kittel sometimes, gets high values at time-trial, and then average ones in sprint.
Positive start, with a top-10. Bobridge did his best, that's for sure.
Well until his last year U23 rider, he was always a better time triallist than a sprinter, and he had to work for Degenkolb in the sprints.
At Skil however they did some tests and they said Kittel should focus on his sprint and they made him a train with Veelers as last man. And there he really discovered he's more of a sprinter.
So it's not all that weird, you can never guess how a rider develops. Jurgen vandenbroeck was world champion ITT at the juniors, and now he is far better as a climber, and only has a very average ITT |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-10-2011 21:36
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ruben wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
Same thing happens with Kittel sometimes, gets high values at time-trial, and then average ones in sprint.
Positive start, with a top-10. Bobridge did his best, that's for sure.
Well until his last year U23 rider, he was always a better time triallist than a sprinter, and he had to work for Degenkolb in the sprints.
At Skil however they did some tests and they said Kittel should focus on his sprint and they made him a train with Veelers as last man. And there he really discovered he's more of a sprinter.
So it's not all that weird, you can never guess how a rider develops. Jurgen vandenbroeck was world champion ITT at the juniors, and now he is far better as a climber, and only has a very average ITT
Prime example: in espoirs Boonen used to be a leadout man for Jurgen Van Loocke
EDIT: As for Matthews the only sprints he's good in are uphill sprints. In a flat sprint, don't expect him to ever be great.
But of course you can't make that distinction in PCM, which means it's impossible to give him realistic stats
Edited by issoisso on 15-10-2011 21:59
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 15-10-2011 22:20
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FreitasPCM wrote:
Same thing happens with Kittel sometimes, gets high values at time-trial, and then average ones in sprint.
issoisso wrote:
But of course you can't make that distinction in PCM, which means it's impossible to give him realistic stats
Plus the fact, that I've started this career with a 2010-DB.. so, like Ruben mentioned, Kittel (for example) was better known as an ITT-specialist.
@cunego59: Thanks! Glad you like it! I still have to get used to PCM11, so you better don't expect too much wins early in the season
@laidbackmarc: Yeah, your shirts have been prominent in Australian NCs
@FreitasPCM: Bobridge did his best, yes. He has been a Top-3-favourite though.. but.. well, you may remember that I suck in PCM-TTs
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