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Giro d'Italia Week 3
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:57
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Any one got a preview of tomorrow's stage? |
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:57
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1) Quintana did not attack, he merely followed wheels as he saw Rolland or Europcar making a move (I may be wrong about this but this is what I've heard) and considered him a potential threat/ally
2) The descent was NOT neutralised. Full stop. Notice how the teams who are complaining are Belkin, OPQS and Saxo? I wonder what they've got in common... Oh yes - a rider that lost time today. They would complain wouldn't they? 
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| Kritzo |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:03
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@Shonak:
Oh, I did not see that post and the article at all.
Well, it seems that the descent was not neutralised at all, and now I'm just facepalming myself on behalf of Majka. Clearly Quintana, Rolland and Hesjedal is more experienced.
I hope he will recover well though, and will take a stage win either on friday or saturday! 
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:06
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Great stuff. So one way or another Nairo killed the descent and not forgetting the final climb even more so (was there any decent coverage of the descent btw?).
Hesjedal what a great effort - I was willing him to make up those few metres at the end even if I knew it was never going to happen.
A real changing of the guard this Giro out with the old and in with reams of new young talent.
Also I love how all the sickness gets exaggerated most of the time - Quintana's raging fever and ear infection = a dry throat? Pozzo's bronchitis = he coughed a couple of times?  |
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:09
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ianrussell wrote:
Great stuff. So one way or another Nairo killed the descent and not forgetting the final climb even more so (was there any decent coverage of the descent btw?).
Iirc they didn't show any of the favourites once on the entire descent... the first time we got to see Quintana after cresting the summit he was suddenly two minutes ahead of Uran and co. and pushing on in the valley 
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:14
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Sporza did a phone call to Lotto's DS during today's broadcast and he said there was no official mention of a neutralised descent. |
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:20
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Right, just to clear everything up, here's an official statement from the Giro officials:
“In consideration of audio recordings of instructions relayed to [team directors] during today’s stage, the directors of the Giro d’Italia would like to clarify that Race Radio provided an inaccurate interpretation of the indications stipulated by the directors. As previously stated, the intention was to guarantee rider safety during the first section of the descent (the first six hairpins, approximately 1500 m) of the Passo dello Stelvio, where visibility was restricted due to low cloud and fog. At no point did Race Radio or the Directors of the Giro make reference to the possible neutralization of any part of the descent.”
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:26
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Stromeon wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
Great stuff. So one way or another Nairo killed the descent and not forgetting the final climb even more so (was there any decent coverage of the descent btw?).
Iirc they didn't show any of the favourites once on the entire descent... the first time we got to see Quintana after cresting the summit he was suddenly two minutes ahead of Uran and co. and pushing on in the valley
That's what I thought, thanks. Frustrating but I guess it was too dangerous for the camera bikes to be close and no helicopter given the weather.
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| Smoku |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:30
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The radio message has actually been revealed https://www.cyclin...S12_01.mp3
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:33
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Is it just me or is it always Movistar doing stuff like this?
And the confusion is the race jury's fault, saying on twitter it would be neutralized. Understandably that Lefevre is mad, then again, after a few minutes he could've realised Quintana was gone and gone after him? |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:34
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The radio message didn't mention a neutralization, but it did say that motos with flags would be inserted to prevent attacks and make sure that riders keep their positions ... which, I suppose, is de facto neutralization. |
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:34
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Kelderman by the way:
“While climbing the Stelvio, I warmed up again. At the top, I took my time to put on a raincoat as the jury had announced that the downhill would be neutralised. When I made my way back to the main group, however, Quintana, Hesjedal and Rolland were gone. Looking back on that, it’s a bit unfair because I wouldn’t have stopped if I hadn’t heard about the neutralisation. Rolland is now ahead of me in the overall. Normally, I think I could have followed him.”
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:40
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TimoCycling wrote:
Kelderman by the way:
“While climbing the Stelvio, I warmed up again. At the top, I took my time to put on a raincoat as the jury had announced that the downhill would be neutralised. When I made my way back to the main group, however, Quintana, Hesjedal and Rolland were gone. Looking back on that, it’s a bit unfair because I wouldn’t have stopped if I hadn’t heard about the neutralisation. Rolland is now ahead of me in the overall. Normally, I think I could have followed him.”
Again, just bad information. I can understand why he feels like that, but then again, this is cycling. Apparantly 80% of the peloton knew there was new neutralization. Those things happens. Rodriguez would probably also have ended above Kelderman but he abandoned. Same thing
And what you mean with Movistar doing "stuff like this"?
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:42
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Riis123 wrote:
TimoCycling wrote:
Kelderman by the way:
“While climbing the Stelvio, I warmed up again. At the top, I took my time to put on a raincoat as the jury had announced that the downhill would be neutralised. When I made my way back to the main group, however, Quintana, Hesjedal and Rolland were gone. Looking back on that, it’s a bit unfair because I wouldn’t have stopped if I hadn’t heard about the neutralisation. Rolland is now ahead of me in the overall. Normally, I think I could have followed him.”
Again, just bad information. I can understand why he feels like that, but then again, this is cycling. Apparantly 80% of the peloton knew there was new neutralization. Those things happens. Rodriguez would probably also have ended above Kelderman but he abandoned. Same thing
And what you mean with Movistar doing "stuff like this"?
Movistar is often on the "right side" with things like this. By that I mean they often profit from these kind of situations. They really ride only to win and don't care about anything. Anyways, imo they weren't wrong in this case. |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:45
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I really don't understand there logic: "seems that there are still people riding and there aren't many that wait to change clothing at the top like me. perhaps there it isn't neutralised as the jury said. naaah, the jury is always right"
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:48
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
I really don't understand there logic: "seems that there are still people riding and there aren't many that wait to change clothing at the top like me. perhaps there it isn't neutralised as the jury said. naaah, the jury is always right"
Yeah I do understand it, it's extremely cold, and they probably heard it from the DC's. It was chaos and when you're that cold you are not thinking about stuff like that and just trust your DC. |
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:49
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Even though I'm not in favour of the teams complaining, I feel this was a bad stage. Firstly because it was decided on that technicality on the descent of the Stelvio, and secondly because the winner of the Giro has already been found.
All the thrill of having a 6 men race for the win, as been turned into a 7 (maybe 8) men fight for the podium, which despite being far from boring, is a bit anticlimactic to me.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:50
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TimoCycling wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
TimoCycling wrote:
Kelderman by the way:
“While climbing the Stelvio, I warmed up again. At the top, I took my time to put on a raincoat as the jury had announced that the downhill would be neutralised. When I made my way back to the main group, however, Quintana, Hesjedal and Rolland were gone. Looking back on that, it’s a bit unfair because I wouldn’t have stopped if I hadn’t heard about the neutralisation. Rolland is now ahead of me in the overall. Normally, I think I could have followed him.”
Again, just bad information. I can understand why he feels like that, but then again, this is cycling. Apparantly 80% of the peloton knew there was new neutralization. Those things happens. Rodriguez would probably also have ended above Kelderman but he abandoned. Same thing
And what you mean with Movistar doing "stuff like this"?
Movistar is often on the "right side" with things like this. By that I mean they often profit from these kind of situations. They really ride only to win and don't care about anything. Anyways, imo they weren't wrong in this case.
Movistar is often on the "right side" with things like this. By that I mean they often profit from these kind of situations. They really ride only to win and don't care about anything. Anyways, imo they weren't wrong in this case.[/quote]
Well, I cant see anything wrong with what they did either. And in the end of the day, it really doesnt matter. If Quintana is in this shape, he will destroy second-tier climbers.
I was just about to bring up what Belkin did in the Tour last year (I did kinda anyways) as a counterargument, but then again, I think we have discussed that enough,.,. right? |
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:53
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@Riis, they paybacked Belkin for that anyways, that's cycling. I don't remember which race though. And I agree, Quintana was way too strong anyways, still I hate that that sleazy Rolland (unsympathetic rider imo) slips into the GC . But that's just me. Not saying it's unfair so don't bash me. |
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| Anderis |
Posted on 27-05-2014 22:53
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What a ride by Ryder.
It's a pity he has almost no team-mates left. Apart from strong Cardoso. |
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