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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 13-07-2012 20:58
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Aquarius wrote:
Until he signs with Sky, this is going to remain off-topic, but, to explain my feelings about Hesjedal :
- Performing close or slightly above the limits of acceptable.
- Trains in Gijona, of all places (might as well be training in Saint-Moritz or Tenerife).
- Has ridden for a nice collection of teams : US Postal, Discovery, Phonak, Garmin Reserve, Garmin.
- Former good MTBer (I admit it's being a little unfair, but MTBers don't really have a reputation of cleanness).
I know it's no proof or even hardly solid evidence, but let's say there are reasons to put a question mark on him.
I agree it's a little bit suspicious. But when has Garmin been dirty? And it is unfair to call all mtb doped, look at Evans. Also, a lot of cyclists are in Girona. However, having the US Postal and Phonak teams, doesn't help.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 13-07-2012 21:01
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I'm just connecting the dots, but I admit there are no hard evidences against him. But the whole picture just looks fishy, IMO. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 13-07-2012 21:02
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Until he signs with Sky, this is going to remain off-topic, but, to explain my feelings about Hesjedal :
- Performing close or slightly above the limits of acceptable.
- Trains in Gijona, of all places (might as well be training in Saint-Moritz or Tenerife).
- Has ridden for a nice collection of teams : US Postal, Discovery, Phonak, Garmin Reserve, Garmin.
- Former good MTBer (I admit it's being a little unfair, but MTBers don't really have a reputation of cleanness).
I know it's no proof or even hardly solid evidence, but let's say there are reasons to put a question mark on him.
I agree it's a little bit suspicious. But when has Garmin been dirty? And it is unfair to call all mtb doped, look at Evans. Also, a lot of cyclists are in Girona. However, having the US Postal and Phonak teams, doesn't help.
If you look at who is at Garmin (staff and riders) you might start to get some suspicions.
Its hard to tell if MTN Bikers are doped, I dont really think its any more than others...
And a lot of doped cyclists are in Girona. There were rumours a year or two ago of a potential massive doping ring bust, after some group was after someone who apparently spilled the beans on the doping ring., I think.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 13-07-2012 22:41
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valverde321 wrote:There were rumours a year or two ago of a potential massive doping ring bust, after some group was after someone who apparently spilled the beans on the doping ring., I think.
Read this
https://www.cyclin...g-the-dots
Xavier never got to ride for Garmin. He died 3 months later 
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| CLURPR |
Posted on 13-07-2012 23:11
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Interesting quote from Vaughters:
'The logic is that if a rider/director/manager/doctor had any sort of association with another rider/manager/director/doctor that has been accused or associated with doping in the past, then all parties are guilty.' |
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| Likkivi |
Posted on 14-07-2012 16:11
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The dope train for the lead out today.
Wiggins is probably so numb from all the dope that he can't feel any pain. That's the only reason to lead-out EBH. |
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 14-07-2012 16:12
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Wiggins didn't even look tired after the finish.
Seems legit 
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 14-07-2012 16:14
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Likkivi wrote:
The dope train for the lead out today.
Wiggins is probably so numb from all the dope that he can't feel any pain. That's the only reason to lead-out EBH.
What I mean is:
kumazan wrote:
Oh come on. Sky is supicious, but no need to make ridiculous statements. It just strengthen the point of those how think we're just haters.
Edited by Teddy The Creator on 14-07-2012 16:16
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| kumazan |
Posted on 14-07-2012 16:15
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Oh come on. Sky is supicious, but no need to make ridiculous statements. It just strengthen the point of those who think we're just haters.
Edited by kumazan on 14-07-2012 16:16
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| CountArach |
Posted on 14-07-2012 16:16
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I don't know why people would complain about today's effort in the finale from Wiggins - this is what he is best suited to as a time trialist.
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 14-07-2012 16:17
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CountArach wrote:
I don't know why people would complain about today's effort in the finale from Wiggins - this is what he is best suited to as a time trialist.
Did people not watch the WC's? Wiggins did this for the entire finale, blew the attackers apart. Voeckler probably would have won if not for him.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 14-07-2012 16:26
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kumazan wrote:
Oh come on. Sky is supicious, but no need to make ridiculous statements. It just strengthen the point of those who think we're just haters.
+1000
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| Likkivi |
Posted on 14-07-2012 16:41
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Oh come on. Sky is supicious, but no need to make ridiculous statements. It just strengthen the point of those who think we're just haters.
+1000
It's funny cause your own post goes under the quoted category. |
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 14-07-2012 16:59
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Likkivi wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Oh come on. Sky is supicious, but no need to make ridiculous statements. It just strengthen the point of those who think we're just haters.
+1000
It's funny cause your own post goes under the quoted category.
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| Likkivi |
Posted on 14-07-2012 17:11
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No one cares about +1 posts |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 14-07-2012 17:12
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Likkivi wrote:
No one cares about +1 posts
You must have a big knowledge to claim this with such certainty. |
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 14-07-2012 17:12
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What the hell are you on about?
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 14-07-2012 17:32
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Teddy The Creator wrote:
What the hell are you on about?
It seems like Sky are not the only one possibly on the dope here 
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| Ybodonk |
Posted on 14-07-2012 18:38
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Wiggins have just stated that he would like to show he's blood values and numbers, but he cant. The reason for this is , that the doctors/medical staff on Sky has adviced him not to, since the numbers and values can easily be misunderstood. And the numbers itself wouldn't show or proof whether you are doped or not. Very interesting statement. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 14-07-2012 18:46
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Ybodonk wrote:
Wiggins have just stated that he would like to show he's blood values and numbers, but he cant. The reason for this is , that the doctors/medical staff on Sky has adviced him not to, since the numbers and values can easily be misunderstood. And the numbers itself wouldn't show or proof whether you are doped or not. Very interesting statement.
Somehow sounds like "I'd like to show you I don't dope, but I do" 
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