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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-06-2012 22:07
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Worth pointing out that it has changed since that was posted. Still quite similar to that, but a bit different.
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 14-06-2012 22:21
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In the run-up to the off season are there things the freeloaders amongst us can do? Perhaps we can crowdsource some of the more menial tasks.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-06-2012 23:19
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The off season is further away than some people seem to think. I might put a call out for a couple more reporters to speed things up, but theres not much else at the moment.
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| Rin |
Posted on 27-09-2012 10:53
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A long time since the last question and we are getting very close to the off season 
After the last races of the CT and PT, then there will be "just" the national championships?
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 27-09-2012 12:29
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Qestionon on top of Rin's will we have to enter national champs? Is there a max number of riders from 1 team? |
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| roturn |
Posted on 27-09-2012 12:31
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SN already made the startlists for the Nationals.
Not sure how he made it exactly. I think if you have too many riders from one country, you should already have got a PM by him to select your riders. If you had less than the maximum all your riders participate I guess.
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| Heine |
Posted on 27-09-2012 12:49
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Might also be that the "best" automaticly got selected ;-)
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 27-09-2012 22:25
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Most countries see every rider on a contract ride. Theres only a few where there are more than 24 teams with riders from that country, and I aimed to pick the best 24 from those teams.
Alstom are riding the French champs, jt, which I presume is what you most wanted to know
And yes, Rin. The National championships will take place, alongside new applications and other stuff
Edited by SportingNonsense on 27-09-2012 22:26
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| cio93 |
Posted on 27-09-2012 22:29
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What came to my mind lately:
In which way do results in targeted races influence my team next season?
Any financial bonus or just for fun?
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 27-09-2012 22:56
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Still to be decided!
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| jack888 |
Posted on 28-09-2012 05:28
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I say your budget should be multiplied by the amount of goals you achieve, and multiplied again if you achieve 5/5
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 28-09-2012 08:08
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jack888 wrote:
I say your budget should be multiplied by the amount of goals you achieve,
Its been like that for years
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| jph27 |
Posted on 29-09-2012 15:50
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What happens to riders who increase a level in experience, but ride for disbanding teams? Do they get stat increases or not, and if they do then how are they decided? |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 29-09-2012 15:53
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jph27 wrote:
What happens to riders who increase a level in experience, but ride for disbanding teams? Do they get stat increases or not, and if they do then how are they decided?
I decide the category
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| Rin |
Posted on 02-10-2012 16:25
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beagle wrote:
I complained in 1st post, yes. Next stuff is about trying to understand game better.
Obviously it is completely OT, so you can delete this from beginning easily.
You can take a edited PCM12 DB (as PCM12 is next up for the Man-Game) and try to resemble it with similar riders or edit them so they resemble your riders from your team like some people do
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guessing which race and which riders could be ok for the team and races -> try and error, for example me as I don't have any PCM after 09
I guess no one can really understand the AI in the game as there happens a lot of.. "stuff":
Mad attacks from outsiders in the middle/beginning of a stage and winning the stage/race (for example Gil winning the spanish championship or De la Fuente or Lloret this season also winning races for me), big/good teams unwilling to relay, the pinnacle of this the "relaxed crusiing" with absolutely no one really willing to relay, Ciolek abandoning without any reason etc. which happens very random
So the good managers have good race plans/team setups and some luck how the AI races their team
I had a lot of luck this season with even throwing some races away which could have been better.. like taking Drenthe as a cobble race without having a cobble rider (my stupid fault -> try and error), riders underperforming or simply wrong AI attacks too early or too late or the good old team doesn't relay.
But then the team performed a lot as a team some how. Also Jayco is very interesting to look at as I wouldn't have picked them for a Top 3 place before the season.
My route was to have (at least for the classics or stage races) to have 2 similar good riders as I think the game doesn't handle star teams very well with 3 or more similar riders as favourites in it. At least it was at the PCM04-09 like this.
But no one can really say why their team is successful otherwise then a team with a depth so a lot of riders could manage some results. Because the rest is luck how the AI takes on your team.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 02-10-2012 16:57
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I've noticed that some riders dates of birth in the database don't match the age they are listed as by CQ ranking. Is that something that would be changed or not? For example, Potential 8 Kangarid Naran is listed as being born in 1986, but CQ has him as being born in 1989. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 02-10-2012 17:00
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jph27 wrote:
I've noticed that some riders dates of birth in the database don't match the age they are listed as by CQ ranking. Is that something that would be changed or not? For example, Potential 8 Kangarid Naran is listed as being born in 1986, but CQ has him as being born in 1989.
There is far worse. Romain is 4 months older than Brice Feillu 
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| beagle |
Posted on 02-10-2012 17:46
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Rin, really appreciate your attention and help!
The thing is, however, that I want to test only 2 aspects of the game right now:
1) AI behaviour, when same start lists are set up by different ways (it´s not ignorance, I just still don´t believe there is zero impact on game)
2) AI behaviour, when team has 1 clear leader and 2 different leaders (in our case pure sprinter/GC rider with high cobble stat). Here I want to thank to mb2612 for hint
Yes, I can edit riders and teams in PCM DB. I still need data of Tour du Faso´s stages though having conditions as much similar as possible, which are included in DB file only, if I´m not mistaken...
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| kumazan |
Posted on 02-10-2012 17:54
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beagle wrote:
(it´s not ignorance, I just still don´t believe there is zero impact on game)
It is ignorance. I don't really mean this in a bad way, because we all are ignorant of many things, but it really is. There's absolutely zero impact in the game from how the starlist is done. A startlist is just a string of numbers that define which riders take part in what race. That's it.
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| Rin |
Posted on 02-10-2012 21:26
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The start list could even left out the numbers because the numbers doesn't mean anything (or doesn't mean a lot). I checked my race wins to look at.
Ok some races were won by the rider who is named first on my team but these races aren't sprint classics where Mohs would be first. At these hilly or mountain races it's obvious when you have De la Fuente or Cobo, that they are 1st and not Ciolek.
The rider with the 1 or last number 1 isn't a guarantee that he will win.
For example the Philadelphia Classic which was a hilly race with a flat finish and had the green flat logo so was more for the sprinters. Guess who won: Number 143 De la Fuente. The 141 was Lequatre and I haven't sent Ciolek there as I thought would be weird that 75% of the stage is rather hilly which would destroy a lot of sprinters without the support stats.. Number 1 was Bennati. Ok the race was a crash affected race but still. But that was a crazy race where I think De la Fuente attacked very early and the peloton didn't relay hard the crash was just a "plus" or the icing on the cake.
Or Giro del Capo: 21 was Cobo but 23 De la Fuente took the GC
I took part at the first season in the Tour of Faso when I had Eichler and Kopp who were okish cobble riders.
I wouldn't really waste the race days for that race for a sprinter because of the cobbled part which will be taken by a cobbler plus the GC. If there would be cobbler/sprinters and some are in the DB then you could forget that race.
Mohs won't win the GC which is the most important thing to win (or have some riders in the Top 10) rather than stages, a chance of the green jersey and some 10-20th place at the GC I guess.
I would have used Mohs in a lot more shorter stage races with sprint stages or better stage races like the Tour of Southland were you took part but Mohs didn't. Especially in support to races if you have a mountain rider or classics rider who could take the GC and the sprinter just the green jersey.
It was one of the stage races where I sent also Ciolek but was 8th and 3rd in the sprints.. A bit disappointing but that can happen.
I think the AI can handle two leaders for the GC and a good sprinter for the sprints. And I think it does very well. But not more then 3 GC leaders as the 3rd one would be just the relay helper or won't bring results as the 2nd one would be tied up infront of rider 1 who should take the GC.
I remember the Deutschland Tour where Lloret should have been the leader and Ciolek won the green jersey by just 2 points. Ciolek won a stage there.
Unfortunetly the race was pretty much ridiculous because a breakaway came through with a lot of bonus minutes so even the favourites couldn't manage to close the gap at the last stage which was a mountain stage but even there a breakaway came through..
Lloret as the first "real" GC rider and he was 13rd.. Even Aramendia was placed infront of Lloret at 12nd.
Also I remember my first season with LEGO (and stupid mistakes like taking Gil and sending money plus Roelandts to Unicef.. My only donation to Unicef ever  Even though I took also Petacchi for money from Unicef) where I had a weird team. A lot of sprinters but only Ciolek could shine as he was the best by miles and 2 track riders with Thorsen who was close to win a stage and Hochmann who won a stage.
No race win or green jersey, but a stage win at the ProTour with Ciolek at the very prestigious Internationale Österreich Rundfahrt which was relegated afterwards to the Continental Tour 
https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=10633
Those were times when CrueTrue was a reporter
Also the other stuff with the race list. Actually they (Admins, reporters) just type the 8 rider IDs into a editor which puts out the start list file for the race. The game loads that file so the rest (who is first on the list etc.) is done by the game and not the reporters.
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