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Strydz
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
He couldn't have picked much better in my opinion, good move for both Gallopin and Lotto.



Agree, though it might be close for Lotto to stay in the world tour this year

with Vacansoleil and Euskaltel (presumely) quitting I doubt any team will relegate this year

If those 2 are gone who comes up to WT?
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Strydz wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
He couldn't have picked much better in my opinion, good move for both Gallopin and Lotto.



Agree, though it might be close for Lotto to stay in the world tour this year

with Vacansoleil and Euskaltel (presumely) quitting I doubt any team will relegate this year

If those 2 are gone who comes up to WT?


Depens on who has the best season end. IAM seems most likely. Maybe Tinkoff if he can sign some big names.
 
FroomeDog99
Strydz wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
He couldn't have picked much better in my opinion, good move for both Gallopin and Lotto.



Agree, though it might be close for Lotto to stay in the world tour this year

with Vacansoleil and Euskaltel (presumely) quitting I doubt any team will relegate this year

If those 2 are gone who comes up to WT?

The WT will probably return to 18 teams so only 1 will come up.
Edited by FroomeDog99 on 06-08-2013 17:06
 
Mwuhi
Hm, nice move for Lotto, Gallopin too, but not that expected. Will be interesting what kind of function he gets in the team.
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Alakagom
FroomeDog99 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
He couldn't have picked much better in my opinion, good move for both Gallopin and Lotto.



Agree, though it might be close for Lotto to stay in the world tour this year

with Vacansoleil and Euskaltel (presumely) quitting I doubt any team will relegate this year

If those 2 are gone who comes up to WT?

The WT will probably return to 18 teams so only 1 will come up.


WT could also be with 17 teams only. Just one more invitation sent to PCT teams.

Inner Ring did an article on this few days ago.
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Ian Butler
Ollfardh wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
He couldn't have picked much better in my opinion, good move for both Gallopin and Lotto.



Agree, though it might be close for Lotto to stay in the world tour this year


Another proof the points system fails miserably. Well, not that Lotto did so well, but Greipel should be worth more than he is RiderValuePoints wise.
 
sieve
Alakagom wrote:WT could also be with 17 teams only. Just one more invitation sent to PCT teams.

Inner Ring did an article on this few days ago.


That would be interesting.
Says a lot about the economics of the sport.
 
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Great that Gallopin signed with Lotto, shows that he isn't doing it for the money. It almost seems like Sky, Astana and OPQS are buying all the good riders (just like BMC a few years ago).
 
sutty68
Wonder how he will get on in his first season with the team Wink
 
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Martinelli says he wants Nieve and Landa

Costa's agent says that 'Realistically, Garmin is the almost certain destination'. Will not stay at Movistar
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samdiatmh
issoisso wrote:
Costa's agent says that 'Realistically, Garmin is the almost certain destination'. Will not stay at Movistar


more one week stage racers?!
cause Stetina, Danielson, Martin, Talansky aren't enough?
 
Anderis

more one week stage racers?!
cause Stetina, Danielson, Martin, Talansky aren't enough?

Yes, they aren't. To make the matter worse, there were rumours that Garmin already have signed Slagter, and they're also interested in Nieve and Anton. Pfft

Stetina was rumoured to leave, though.

But Garmin are targetting stage races recently and they really need more climbing power to have proper leadership+domestiques for more races. Vaughters seems to enjoy having multiple GC options what allows him to ride like in USA Pro Cycling Challenge last year, or in Catalunya this year.
 
Miguel98
Slagter wasn't rumoured. Pretty sure it was confirmed.
 
Anderis
I'm pretty sure there was a news that Slagter signed Garmin, and then it was denied by Slagter himself (he stated he was yet to make a final decision).
Edited by Anderis on 07-08-2013 11:47
 
Aquarius
Anderis wrote:
But Garmin are targetting stage races recently and they really need more climbing power to have proper leadership+domestiques for more races. Vaughters seems to enjoy having multiple GC options what allows him to ride like in USA Pro Cycling Challenge last year, or in Catalunya this year.

But having more climbing material is useful when you've got the leader on your team. Now if your leader's goal is only to hang on to the Sky train for as long as possible, having other climbers, be it one or half a dozen, around him is not going to make much of a difference.
 
Pellizotti2
samdiatmh wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Costa's agent says that 'Realistically, Garmin is the almost certain destination'. Will not stay at Movistar

more one week stage racers?!
cause Stetina, Danielson, Martin, Talansky aren't enough?

Hesjedal is offended by your comment Pfft

Anyway, the addition of Costa shouldn't be much of a problem. Stetina's likely leaving and Danielson isn't good enough anymore. That leaves Hesjedal, Martin and Talansky - all of which are mostly interested in the GTs, whereas Costa is better suited for week-long stage races.

The only major clashes I can see are the Ardennes and the Tour.
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Anderis
Aquarius wrote:
But having more climbing material is useful when you've got the leader on your team. Now if your leader's goal is only to hang on to the Sky train for as long as possible, having other climbers, be it one or half a dozen, around him is not going to make much of a difference.

Well, you never know if you end up with unexpected lead and you need to control the race. Danielson was sent this year for Giro, because Hesjedal was one of the main favourites and you never know what would happen. Skt doesn't necessarily have to make a train each time it would be useful for Garmin. Without Danielson that team seemed to be too weak to protect Ryder. This also caused that Danielson was completely off-form during TdF and they don't have many options for Vuelta either. It looks like they lacked at least one more good climber this year. With Vande Velde retiring, it would be useful for them to sign at least 2 more good climbers- even 3 if rumours about Stetina leaving will turn out to be true.

And as I said- Vaughters enjoys having multiple GC options, to put them in dangerous breakaways. Doing that, he can often find out his rider in a succesfull breakaway and win a race with not having the strongest rider. It happened this year in Catalunya. It also helped to achieve success in Liege-Bastogne-Liege and last year's USA Pro Cycling Challenge. That's their strategy. They don't have Froome in their team, but having 3 or 4 guys who can win a race being in the right break-away certainly gives more options and more possibility of success than just having one strong rider. Even if you don't win GC, you can collect some stage wins, or KOM classification wins in the process. You also minimise the risk of failing to get into top10 at the end of the race.
Edited by Anderis on 07-08-2013 12:34
 
Alakagom
Miguel98 wrote:
Slagter wasn't rumoured. Pretty sure it was confirmed.


Nope. He's leaving, but the team he's joining is yet uncofirmed.

https://www.rtvnoo...p?p=123621

Meier and Weening (soon) sign 2 year extensions at Orica.
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Miguel98
Okay. So he only confirmed he would be leaving, but the team hasn't been announced.
 
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