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| TheHoeke |
Posted on 29-09-2014 09:45
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Valgren showed under the Vuelta that he is capable of the long races and was often seen in an important role for a rider in his first Grand Tour, but he is young and he only needs a small upgrade in the support stats and then the rest comes later 
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Posted on 22-11-2024 08:54
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| matt17br |
Posted on 29-09-2014 12:38
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Valgren already has 72 hill. Upgrading him to 73 will make him dominate hilly ct classics/stages. I think that a backup stats and minor stats update will absolutely suit, but other than that, I don't see too much.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 29-09-2014 12:47
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matt17br wrote:
Valgren already has 72 hill. Upgrading him to 73 will make him dominate hilly ct classics/stages. I think that a backup stats and minor stats update will absolutely suit, but other than that, I don't see too much.
As a rider on PT team I am not sure that matters 
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 29-09-2014 16:28
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I think that Valgren with 72 it´s ok |
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| Heksem |
Posted on 29-09-2014 22:39
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Why is the STA en RES so low? After a few seasons the best riders have over 80, and Contador, Nibali +++ is still 74/75 in RES. Why don't set the top stats to 83-85 in everything? |
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| Cossack |
Posted on 30-09-2014 09:19
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I think stat matrix used in this DB sticks to lower STA and RES values (to encourage gaps to appear), but it isn't reflected in the youngridercarac file properly.
I have a similar issue with REC: for a young climbers like A. Yates, Chaves or sprinters like Ewan it's quite possible to develop MO/SP of 80-82, but they usually develop only 2-3 points in REC, having a big disadvantage against the older riders who already start with ~80 REC.
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| matt17br |
Posted on 30-09-2014 12:39
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Cossack wrote:
I think stat matrix used in this DB sticks to lower STA and RES values (to encourage gaps to appear), but it isn't reflected in the youngridercarac file properly.
I have a similar issue with REC: for a young climbers like A. Yates, Chaves or sprinters like Ewan it's quite possible to develop MO/SP of 80-82, but they usually develop only 2-3 points in REC, having a big disadvantage against the older riders who already start with ~80 REC.
We will take a look into the xmls
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 05-10-2014 22:50
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What do you think about Tim Wellens??? |
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 06-10-2014 07:54
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I think it's worth considering 76 hill for him, along with high stamina. |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 06-10-2014 08:29
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Wellens needs an overal update I think. A very good Giro, then he got 2nd in TT NC, Eneco Tour win and 4th in Lombardia. A puncheur with allround abilities.
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| TankNL |
Posted on 06-10-2014 08:48
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from my stat calculations;
| CyclistName | FLA | MOU | HIL | TT | PRO | COB | SPR | ACC | DWN | FTR | STA | RES | REC | POP | | WELLENS Tim | 72 | 72 | 77 | 70 | 70 | 70 | 70 | 71 | 75 | 75 | 75 | 75 | 72 | 68 |
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| TheHoeke |
Posted on 06-10-2014 09:41
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TankNL wrote:
from my stat calculations;
| CyclistName | FLA | MOU | HIL | TT | PRO | COB | SPR | ACC | DWN | FTR | STA | RES | REC | POP | | WELLENS Tim | 72 | 72 | 77 | 70 | 70 | 70 | 70 | 71 | 75 | 75 | 75 | 75 | 72 | 68 |
Would say more like this based on yours :
Hill = 76
Downhill = 70
Stamina = 73
Resistance = 70
Sprint = 67
Acceleration = 73
Mountain = 73
Stats from DB :
Spoiler
Flat = 72
Mountain = 73
Downhill = 67
Cobble = 64
TT = 70
PRO = 71
Sprint = 66
Acceleration = 73
Endurance = 72
Resistance = 70
Recovery =70
Hill = 75
Fighter = 78
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| matt17br |
Posted on 06-10-2014 13:20
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We already fixed his stats. I won't spoil everything. I'll only say that he will have 76 on HI.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 06-10-2014 13:33
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I'd say Tank's stats are pretty much spot on, maybe slightly higher ACC and TT
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| toon83 |
Posted on 07-10-2014 19:01
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matt17br wrote:
We already fixed his stats. I won't spoil everything. I'll only say that he will have 76 on HI.
When will the new update be coming out? |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 07-10-2014 20:51
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toon83 wrote:
matt17br wrote:
We already fixed his stats. I won't spoil everything. I'll only say that he will have 76 on HI.
When will the new update be coming out?
Still no news, but the release date is always the same. ASAP.
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| Naskela |
Posted on 07-10-2014 21:01
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matt17br wrote:
toon83 wrote:
matt17br wrote:
We already fixed his stats. I won't spoil everything. I'll only say that he will have 76 on HI.
When will the new update be coming out?
Still no news, but the release date is always the same. ASAP.
Obviously for me ASAP has another meaning More like right away than as soon as possible! I saw you wrote that weeks ago and was excited about it going to come out soon, a little disappointed 
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| matt17br |
Posted on 07-10-2014 21:09
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Naskela wrote:
matt17br wrote:
toon83 wrote:
matt17br wrote:
We already fixed his stats. I won't spoil everything. I'll only say that he will have 76 on HI.
When will the new update be coming out?
Still no news, but the release date is always the same. ASAP.
Obviously for me ASAP has another meaning More like right away than as soon as possible! I saw you wrote that weeks ago and was excited about it going to come out soon, a little disappointed
Wow, it is already 2 weeks 
I'm really sorry and you're more than right. Though, 2 weeks ago we decided to wait for the WC's. The stats are ready, we try to update them basing on the races. For now I'll change that ASAP to a more realistic "I don't know".
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 10-10-2014 15:33
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Hello!
Caleb Ewan in V2 in SPR??? 73, 74,...??? |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 10-10-2014 15:34
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AiZaK wrote:
Hello!
Caleb Ewan in V2 in SPR??? 73, 74,...???
More than 73  We just had a discussion about that
Edited by matt17br on 10-10-2014 15:34
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