|
2008 Tour suspicious samples to be retested
|
| CrueTrue |
Posted on 04-10-2009 13:04
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 29989
Joined: 20-10-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
Does anyone have a count of how many times that Cancellara has been linked to doping (specifically CERA)?  |
| |
|
|
| ember |
Posted on 04-10-2009 13:17
|
Team Leader
Posts: 6849
Joined: 27-03-2008
PCM$: 700.00
|
doddy13 wrote:
jack888 wrote:
how long will it take to completely finish all tests, days, weeks or months?
2 weeks we'll know the results.
I really don't know whether to be happy to see many of them get caught, or to be scared for what this will do with cycling....
I know it sounds strange, but I actually I hope that they don't catch too many, that will be disaster. |
| |
|
|
| issoisso |
Posted on 04-10-2009 14:17
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 22918
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
I'm not expecting many people, if any, to be caught. bah.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
|
| |
|
|
| Juan |
Posted on 04-10-2009 14:21
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1282
Joined: 09-12-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
issoisso wrote:
I'm not expecting many people, if any, to be caught. bah.
Why ?
|
| |
|
|
| issoisso |
Posted on 04-10-2009 14:25
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 22918
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Because the tests are unreliable. Specifically, the criteria to consider a test positive has to be impregnable...it has to guarantee 100% that one each million positives won't be a false positive so that innocents won't be charged.
The result of this is that the bar has to be set so insanely high that you can get away with almost anything. This is true for any test that doesn't have a boolean result, but a sliding scale.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
|
| |
|
|
| Ad Bot |
Posted on 24-11-2024 14:48
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
| IP: None |
|
|
| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 04-10-2009 14:26
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4790
Joined: 06-12-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
Looks better as well if they test and no-one is caught.  |
| |
|
|
| issoisso |
Posted on 04-10-2009 14:30
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 22918
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
That said, I'm almost sure Evans will get caught. Seriously, the moment the guy was told his samples would be retested, his performance went through the floor......and his explanation for it was wildly inconsistent. He even changed his story altogether after a couple months.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
|
| |
|
|
| rjc_43 |
Posted on 04-10-2009 14:39
|
Team Leader
Posts: 6716
Joined: 13-10-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
I thought the same during the Tour whilst watching him. It was rather obvious...
[url=cleavercycling.co.uk]  [/url] |
| |
|
|
| Shifty |
Posted on 04-10-2009 14:39
|
Neo-Pro
Posts: 298
Joined: 10-03-2009
PCM$: 300.00
|
CrueTrue wrote:
Does anyone have a count of how many times that Cancellara has been linked to doping (specifically CERA)?
I've always told myself that I would give up on cycling professionally if my cycling heroes tested positive (Vinokourov, Basso, Etc.) and it never really happened but I think if it were Fabian Cancellara I'd have some trouble for sure, that may be the end.
|
| |
|
|
| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 04-10-2009 14:41
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15830
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
no you dont. Cycling is great sport enough..even without some dopers.. |
| |
|
|
| jack888 |
Posted on 04-10-2009 14:46
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1280
Joined: 09-06-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
rjc_43 wrote:
I thought the same during the Tour whilst watching him. It was rather obvious...
here we go.....
So he just doesn't have natural talent like Contador or the Shlecks. After watching the tour i have also come to the conclusion that he must need drugs to keep up with these people.
Well, if you think that, then what does it tell you?
If Evans is on drugs then the people that fly past him on the climbs must be.
Also, about the 09 tour, once he was 5 minutes behind he knew it was over and pretty much gave up on GC.
|
| |
|
|
| issoisso |
Posted on 04-10-2009 14:57
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 22918
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
jack888 wrote:
If Evans is on drugs then the people that fly past him on the climbs must be.
Precisely 
One of the things that irks me is that some people (not talking about anyone specific) consider, for example, Saxo Bank a clean team despite all the smoke and Riis an honest man despite all the lies.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
|
| |
|
|
| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 04-10-2009 14:58
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 7681
Joined: 19-02-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
actually we think they're doped as well
|
| |
|
|
| Wiggo |
Posted on 04-10-2009 15:16
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3212
Joined: 07-06-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
jack888 wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
I thought the same during the Tour whilst watching him. It was rather obvious...
here we go.....
So he just doesn't have natural talent like Contador or the Shlecks. After watching the tour i have also come to the conclusion that he must need drugs to keep up with these people.
Well, if you think that, then what does it tell you?
If Evans is on drugs then the people that fly past him on the climbs must be.
Also, about the 09 tour, once he was 5 minutes behind he knew it was over and pretty much gave up on GC.
I think that rjc thinks that too. |
| |
|
|
| jack888 |
Posted on 04-10-2009 15:40
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1280
Joined: 09-06-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
yea, i wasnt being sarcastic
|
| |
|
|
| issoisso |
Posted on 05-10-2009 11:31
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 22918
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
The AFLD has announced a press conference for Wednesday at 10am to divulge the results of the testing
Oh boy...
Edited by issoisso on 05-10-2009 11:37
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
|
| |
|
|
| rjc_43 |
Posted on 05-10-2009 11:36
|
Team Leader
Posts: 6716
Joined: 13-10-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Something BIG...
[url=cleavercycling.co.uk] [/url] |
| |
|
|
| CrueTrue |
Posted on 05-10-2009 14:39
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 29989
Joined: 20-10-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
Can't they just come ahead and say that they didn't find anything? |
| |
|
|
| ruben |
Posted on 05-10-2009 14:59
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 7721
Joined: 23-10-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
oh well all my heroes have sooner or later been caught on doping. And the not-caught ones will probably once get caught anyway
Only one not officially caught is Boogerd from my personal favorite list, and that's just because he quitted in time. Ofcourse he has been named in several scandals, but nothing has been verified. |
| |
|
|
| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 05-10-2009 15:53
|
Team Manager
Posts: 33046
Joined: 08-03-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
issoisso wrote:
The AFLD has announced a press conference for Wednesday at 10am to divulge the results of the testing
Oh boy...
If its any big names, it will be leaked before the conference. Thats my guess.
|
| |
|
