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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 16-04-2015 11:58
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Ollfardh wrote:
Wow, Van Avermaet is looking at a 2 year suspension 
Well that is the length of a doping ban so...
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 16-04-2015 12:05
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oh, ok, is the ban confirmed?
Really disappointing as Van Avermaet was one of my favourite riders... |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 16-04-2015 12:29
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trekbmc wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Wow, Van Avermaet is looking at a 2 year suspension
For the Ozone thing or crossing the train tracks!?!?
That was a good one. 
Anyway, caught doper is always thing to celebrate, not to mourn over.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 16-04-2015 12:34
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Well, good news then. After the recent cases, it's another sorta big name. He's one of my favourite riders and one of the most entertaining ones at that, sadly. I'll miss his racing but it's good he has to pay.
Will he be banned for two years now or will there be some retrospectice, result-cancelling ban? Anyway, guess there goes his chance of ever winning a monument.
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 16-04-2015 12:35
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
trekbmc wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Wow, Van Avermaet is looking at a 2 year suspension
For the Ozone thing or crossing the train tracks!?!?
That was a good one.
Anyway, caught doper is always thing to celebrate, not to mourn over.
Yeah, but why couldn't they catch Froome instead? 
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 16-04-2015 12:39
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Guys if you came 2nd 897 times you'd consider boosts too 
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 16-04-2015 14:04
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A good investigation should've caught 10 times as many riders. It's no secret almost whole local peloton was client to this doctor (and his father) starting in the 1980's. Feels like the detective's are too focused to hang a couple of big names instead of coming up with a good all around case.
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 16-04-2015 21:45
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Hell if he's banned that another leading cobbler out of the peloton. |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 16-04-2015 22:55
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Does this mean we are going to have a BMC hate thread |
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 17-04-2015 01:00
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What's the supposed ban for? The articles I've read state it's a ban for suspicion, which isn't a thing is it? You could ban half the peloton for suspicion.
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 17-04-2015 01:40
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Hm. I like GVA. But if he doped, then he should be banned.
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| Movistar |
Posted on 17-04-2015 02:00
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Spilak23 wrote:
A good investigation should've caught 10 times as many riders. It's no secret almost whole local peloton was client to this doctor (and his father) starting in the 1980's. Feels like the detective's are too focused to hang a couple of big names instead of coming up with a good all around case.
Just like with the baseball doping cases the detectives or investigators or whatever you want to call them, have shown time and again they are out for just as much glory as the athletes are for using drugs.
Instead of trying to make a splash and get their name in the news if these guys did a real investigation and not the im going to get that guy to become famous routine we would be in better shape all around. |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 17-04-2015 04:55
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Spilak23 wrote:
A good investigation should've caught 10 times as many riders. It's no secret almost whole local peloton was client to this doctor (and his father) starting in the 1980's. Feels like the detective's are too focused to hang a couple of big names instead of coming up with a good all around case.
Unfortunately most of the times they only catch riders because they stuff up in some way - transferring to the wrong bank account, calling the wrong phone, etc. So it is tough to put together these broader investigations without any real evidence from the outset. Plus stuff like getting warrants becomes really difficult (I imagine) if you don't have some reasonable evidence already. Finally, the statute of limitations comes in to play so he can't be charged for a lot of this stuff.
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 17-04-2015 08:28
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Eden95 wrote:
What's the supposed ban for? The articles I've read state it's a ban for suspicion, which isn't a thing is it? You could ban half the peloton for suspicion.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 17-04-2015 08:55
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Yeah, I thought it was such a weak case it wouldn't come to something. We'll, let's see what they decide.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| gargatouf |
Posted on 17-04-2015 09:30
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Eden95 wrote:
What's the supposed ban for? The articles I've read state it's a ban for suspicion, which isn't a thing is it? You could ban half the peloton for suspicion.
Same here, all I've read is that he never tested positive and never got caught with the products, so will be harsh if you ban him on hearsay. It's a fairly dangerous precedent to set. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 17-04-2015 09:39
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In emails between GvA and Mertens it`s going about the Corticoid Diprophos, which is forbidden in events and needs an exception and also Vaminolact, which is used for babys actually.
The recipt GvA got was never brought to the pharmacy though.
What is main suspicious and might be the reason why a 2-year ban is asked for, is the fact that in the emails between them it`s not really about what medicaments are able to heal him from his injury but instead, which and in what way, those medicaments will help him in races.
So while he might have had a reason to use those eventually due to injury, he asked for getting an advantage as well this way. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 17-04-2015 09:42
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As far as i understand it:
GVA worked with Dr. Mertens. Mertens has worked with many riders and allegedly Ozone doped Pieter Van Herck who was subsequently banned for doping (though maybe not the Ozone doping, articles are unclear). Tom Meeusen and Bart Wellens are also under the same investigation, their hearings were back in March whilst GVA's was moved to accomodate his racing schedule.
GVA is suspected of using Diprophos and Vaminolact. Diprophos is a corticoid which is banned in competition but can be used with a medical exemption. GVA used Diprophos to treat an heel issue. Vaminolact is a "fortifying baby food" that aids recovery and is banned if injected.
The crux of the case lies upon an email exchange between GVA and Mertens. I guess it will come down to whether GVA can provide proof he had medical exemption for Diprophos. No idea where Vaminolact comes in. Decision due 7th May.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 17-04-2015 10:22
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The heel problems for Van Avermaet are well known, question remains if that is really what it was for. It would've been a 1 time even anyway, according to the defence.
The problem with the Vaminolact is that it happened before the no-needle-policy was introduced. It remains a questionable event though.
Either way, the Belgian doping courts are quite strict, so a 2 year ban can be very likely.
Edited by Ollfardh on 17-04-2015 10:23
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 17-04-2015 17:34
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https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ticke...en-minutes
Proof that Wiggins is f*cking more popular than Jesus in the UK 
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