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calculated stats based on FINAL results

TankNL

#61

Posted on 10-08-2014 00:33

Domestique

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Ok, I have updated the stats and now they include the points accumulated by the domestic helpers. I must say, personally I'm finding them pretty accurate.

https://dl.dropbo...%20v2.xlsx

Sure, especially the top riders in any category need manual adjustment (in Mountain, Hill, Cobble and ITT), but overall I think this can be a steady base for any database that is being build.

TankNL

#62

Posted on 10-08-2014 11:18

Domestique

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I was thinking... The fighter stat, only is used by the AI to determine if and how often a rider attacks to get in breaks?

If so, I would be far more logical that a lower stat rider would have a higher fighter stat right? I could then give fighter stats based on the reverse of the Mountain, Hill, Sprint stat... (stat-85)*-1+50 or something like that... could be worth an experiment right? Or are the any other good suggestions on how to calculate the fighter stat.

TankNL

#63

Posted on 10-08-2014 19:51

Domestique

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I'm also thinking of creating a .cdb file with the stats in order to experiment. I created a mapping with The PackITA 2014 and A.S.O. DB 2014. If some of you are interested to help me play through a season, that would be appreciated. Which of the 2 would you prefer I use as a basis?

TankNL

#64

Posted on 10-08-2014 23:19

Domestique

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TankNL wrote:
I'm also thinking of creating a .cdb file with the stats in order to experiment. I created a mapping with The PackITA 2014 and A.S.O. DB 2014. If some of you are interested to help me play through a season, that would be appreciated. Which of the 2 would you prefer I use as a basis?

So not so much interest? I'll go for the ASO one for myself then

TankNL

#65

Posted on 11-08-2014 11:24

Domestique

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I did an update with all the races up until 10-08-2014
Excel file is here; https://dl.dropbo...%20v2.xlsx

Any thought on what could be nerved... bear in mind, that adjusting an individual can always be done, but I a group comes up to high, than the algorithm has to be investigated and perhaps altered.

top 20 flat

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nr	CyclistName	FLA	MOU	HIL	TT	PRL	COB	SPR	ACC	DHL	FTR	STA	RES	REC	POP
1	SAGAN Peter	80	66	81	72	80	83	83	80	78	0	80	80	74	87
2	DEGENKOLB John	80	60	76	57	50	79	83	79	74	0	80	76	74	85
3	KRISTOFF Alexander	79	67	76	60	56	77	83	80	58	0	80	77	76	86
4	CANCELLARA Fabian	79	56	76	79	82	83	76	77	73	0	80	77	67	83
5	GREIPEL AndrÃ©	78	61	74	55	59	62	83	79	63	0	75	74	75	85
6	MARTIN Tony	77	76	76	84	76	58	75	72	75	0	63	78	77	83
7	TERPSTRA Niki	77	75	75	75	74	83	75	74	69	0	79	78	76	83
8	DEMARE Arnaud	77	67	74	61	50	76	82	76	58	0	76	75	75	83
9	VAN AVERMAET Greg	77	61	79	53	50	82	76	76	78	0	79	78	74	83
10	BOONEN Tom	77	60	72	59	60	83	77	75	53	0	77	75	74	82
11	KITTEL Marcel	77	59	56	63	79	51	83	77	50	0	74	73	74	84
12	BOUHANNI Nacer	77	54	73	52	50	57	83	77	66	0	74	73	73	83
13	CAVENDISH Mark	76	60	74	59	74	57	83	77	52	0	74	74	74	83
14	VANMARCKE Sep	76	55	75	52	50	83	75	74	73	0	76	75	68	81
15	SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel	75	77	76	75	50	50	65	72	75	0	72	76	76	81
16	CHAVANEL Sylvain	75	76	76	79	81	77	75	74	74	0	74	77	77	83
17	FEDRIGO Pierrick	75	65	74	58	54	50	66	70	73	0	71	74	74	79
18	BOASSON HAGEN Edvald	75	64	76	63	75	77	77	76	74	0	75	76	74	82
19	GENE Yohann	75	54	56	52	50	59	74	74	52	0	63	67	71	78
20	HENDERSON Gregory	75	54	60	52	57	50	75	71	53	0	64	66	66	78

top 40 Mountains

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nr	CyclistName	FLA	MOU	HIL	TT	PRL	COB	SPR	ACC	DHL	FTR	STA	RES	REC	POP
1	VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro	74	84	83	77	80	55	76	80	82	0	79	82	82	87
2	NIBALI Vincenzo	73	84	79	79	73	74	75	77	82	0	74	82	82	87
3	RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquim	73	84	82	76	50	50	74	76	82	0	77	82	82	87
4	FROOME Chris	73	83	76	81	75	50	75	73	79	0	71	81	82	86
5	MAJKA Rafal	71	83	77	76	50	50	67	74	81	0	73	79	79	84
6	QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander	66	83	76	77	50	50	60	73	79	0	72	81	82	85
7	CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto	72	82	78	78	50	53	74	74	79	0	72	82	82	86
8	PINOT Thibaut	70	82	75	76	51	52	61	73	79	0	71	79	80	83
9	VAN GARDEREN Tejay	72	81	75	78	79	52	71	73	78	0	71	80	82	84
10	PERAUD Jean-Christophe	71	81	75	77	77	51	67	73	77	0	71	79	81	84
11	POZZOVIVO Domenico	71	81	78	77	50	50	60	73	77	0	73	80	80	84
12	MOLLEMA Bauke	73	80	80	76	74	59	75	75	80	0	75	80	79	85
13	COSTA Rui Alberto Faria	73	80	78	76	59	52	75	73	81	0	75	81	81	85
14	BARDET Romain	72	80	77	69	50	52	74	74	78	0	73	79	79	83
15	URAN URAN Rigoberto	72	80	77	77	61	50	68	73	77	0	72	78	78	83
16	PORTE Richie	71	80	75	77	77	53	64	72	77	0	69	78	79	82
17	MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel	71	80	81	67	50	50	69	74	78	0	74	79	78	84
18	ROCHE Nicolas	71	80	75	75	50	50	74	73	77	0	72	77	77	82
19	HORNER Chris	60	80	75	68	50	50	67	72	76	0	70	78	79	82
20	EVANS Cadel	72	79	77	77	75	51	74	73	78	0	72	80	81	84
21	KÃ–NIG Leopold	68	79	74	76	50	51	57	72	76	0	68	76	77	81
22	ULISSI Diego	73	78	81	76	53	52	75	74	78	0	73	78	75	83
23	NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel	73	78	75	59	50	51	62	72	76	0	72	76	76	81
24	FUGLSANG Jakob	72	78	75	73	73	74	72	72	76	0	71	77	78	81
25	KELDERMAN Wilco	72	78	75	76	75	54	68	72	75	0	71	78	79	82
26	SCARPONI Michele	72	78	76	74	50	50	63	72	76	0	72	77	77	81
27	ROGERS Michael	72	78	75	75	73	50	74	72	76	0	72	77	77	81
28	TALANSKY Andrew	71	78	75	76	73	52	66	71	75	0	62	77	78	81
29	KREUZIGER Roman	70	78	77	76	71	53	63	73	75	0	74	77	77	82
30	FRANK Mathias	68	78	75	76	75	50	62	71	75	0	71	77	79	82
31	ROLLAND Pierre	63	78	75	75	50	50	60	72	76	0	71	76	77	81
32	TEN DAM Laurens	62	78	74	66	57	57	58	72	75	0	71	75	76	80
33	SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel	75	77	76	75	50	50	65	72	75	0	72	76	76	81
34	HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis	74	77	77	66	50	50	66	72	75	0	72	76	76	81
35	VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen	72	77	75	66	73	54	65	71	75	0	64	76	76	80
36	INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA BeÃ±at	72	77	75	75	51	50	60	71	75	0	69	76	77	81
37	GESINK Robert	72	77	76	71	53	50	67	72	77	0	73	77	77	81
38	KANGERT Tanel	71	77	75	76	56	59	60	71	75	0	75	76	76	80
39	BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto	71	77	77	70	50	51	71	72	75	0	72	77	77	81
40	HESJEDAL Ryder	71	77	76	70	73	50	63	72	76	0	73	76	75	81

top 40 Hills

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nr	CyclistName	FLA	MOU	HIL	TT	PRL	COB	SPR	ACC	DHL	FTR	STA	RES	REC	POP
1	VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro	74	84	83	77	80	55	76	80	82	0	79	82	82	87
2	RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquim	73	84	82	76	50	50	74	76	82	0	77	82	82	87
3	GILBERT Philippe	73	75	82	71	78	60	76	77	75	0	77	78	74	83
4	MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel	71	80	81	67	50	50	69	74	78	0	74	79	78	84
5	ULISSI Diego	73	78	81	76	53	52	75	74	78	0	73	78	75	83
6	KWIATKOWSKI Michal	74	76	81	77	81	74	75	75	76	0	75	79	77	84
7	GERRANS Simon	72	75	81	56	73	50	75	75	76	0	78	77	75	82
8	SAGAN Peter	80	66	81	72	80	83	83	80	78	0	80	80	74	87
9	MOLLEMA Bauke	73	80	80	76	74	59	75	75	80	0	75	80	79	85
10	NIBALI Vincenzo	73	84	79	79	73	74	75	77	82	0	74	82	82	87
11	MARTIN Daniel	71	77	79	61	50	50	62	73	77	0	74	77	76	81
12	VAN AVERMAET Greg	77	61	79	53	50	82	76	76	78	0	79	78	74	83
13	CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto	72	82	78	78	50	53	74	74	79	0	72	82	82	86
14	POZZOVIVO Domenico	71	81	78	77	50	50	60	73	77	0	73	80	80	84
15	COSTA Rui Alberto Faria	73	80	78	76	59	52	75	73	81	0	75	81	81	85
16	GALLOPIN Tony	74	75	78	63	74	74	75	73	77	0	75	77	74	81
17	SLAGTER Tom-Jelte	72	75	78	63	73	51	74	73	75	0	74	76	75	81
18	MAJKA Rafal	71	83	77	76	50	50	67	74	81	0	73	79	79	84
19	BARDET Romain	72	80	77	69	50	52	74	74	78	0	73	79	79	83
20	URAN URAN Rigoberto	72	80	77	77	61	50	68	73	77	0	72	78	78	83
21	EVANS Cadel	72	79	77	77	75	51	74	73	78	0	72	80	81	84
22	KREUZIGER Roman	70	78	77	76	71	53	63	73	75	0	74	77	77	82
23	HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis	74	77	77	66	50	50	66	72	75	0	72	76	76	81
24	BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto	71	77	77	70	50	51	71	72	75	0	72	77	77	81
25	PELLIZOTTI Franco	71	77	77	71	50	50	63	72	76	0	72	76	75	81
26	BAKELANTS Jan	73	76	77	60	60	61	74	72	77	0	73	77	76	81
27	VOECKLER Thomas	72	76	77	65	50	72	69	72	77	0	73	76	74	81
28	CUNEGO Damiano	71	76	77	62	64	51	68	72	75	0	72	76	75	80
29	GESCHKE Simon	72	75	77	56	67	50	69	72	75	0	73	75	73	80
30	VANENDERT Jelle	63	62	77	51	50	50	55	72	73	0	73	74	59	79
31	ALBASINI Michael	72	60	77	52	73	53	75	73	75	0	74	74	64	80
32	GASPAROTTO Enrico	71	60	77	51	59	51	65	72	74	0	75	74	62	79
33	LEUKEMANS BjÃ¶rn	73	59	77	53	50	76	74	73	75	0	74	75	73	80
34	FROOME Chris	73	83	76	81	75	50	75	73	79	0	71	81	82	86
35	QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander	66	83	76	77	50	50	60	73	79	0	72	81	82	85
36	SCARPONI Michele	72	78	76	74	50	50	63	72	76	0	72	77	77	81
37	SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel	75	77	76	75	50	50	65	72	75	0	72	76	76	81
38	GESINK Robert	72	77	76	71	53	50	67	72	77	0	73	77	77	81
39	HESJEDAL Ryder	71	77	76	70	73	50	63	72	76	0	73	76	75	81
40	MARTIN Tony	77	76	76	84	76	58	75	72	75	0	63	78	77	83

top 25 Time Trail

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nr	CyclistName	FLA	MOU	HIL	TT	PRL	COB	SPR	ACC	DHL	FTR	STA	RES	REC	POP
1	MARTIN Tony	77	76	76	84	76	58	75	72	75	0	63	78	77	83
2	FROOME Chris	73	83	76	81	75	50	75	73	79	0	71	81	82	86
3	CANCELLARA Fabian	79	56	76	79	82	83	76	77	73	0	80	77	67	83
4	CHAVANEL Sylvain	75	76	76	79	81	77	75	74	74	0	74	77	77	83
5	WIGGINS Bradley	73	76	74	79	82	75	62	71	74	0	71	76	77	81
6	NIBALI Vincenzo	73	84	79	79	73	74	75	77	82	0	74	82	82	87
7	DUMOULIN Tom	73	75	76	79	82	56	75	73	74	0	72	76	76	81
8	CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto	72	82	78	78	50	53	74	74	79	0	72	82	82	86
9	VAN GARDEREN Tejay	72	81	75	78	79	52	71	73	78	0	71	80	82	84
10	KWIATKOWSKI Michal	74	76	81	77	81	74	75	75	76	0	75	79	77	84
11	VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro	74	84	83	77	80	55	76	80	82	0	79	82	82	87
12	BARTA Jan	71	68	69	77	73	55	55	59	61	0	59	74	74	79
13	PORTE Richie	71	80	75	77	77	53	64	72	77	0	69	78	79	82
14	EVANS Cadel	72	79	77	77	75	51	74	73	78	0	72	80	81	84
15	PERAUD Jean-Christophe	71	81	75	77	77	51	67	73	77	0	71	79	81	84
16	POZZOVIVO Domenico	71	81	78	77	50	50	60	73	77	0	73	80	80	84
17	URAN URAN Rigoberto	72	80	77	77	61	50	68	73	77	0	72	78	78	83
18	QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander	66	83	76	77	50	50	60	73	79	0	72	81	82	85
19	MALORI Adriano	72	58	62	77	73	50	55	56	61	0	55	73	73	78
20	THOMAS Geraint	74	75	74	76	78	78	74	72	73	0	74	76	76	81
21	PHINNEY Taylor	73	58	67	76	77	75	74	72	51	0	72	74	73	79
22	WESTRA Lieuwe	71	75	74	76	77	74	57	72	74	0	56	75	75	79
23	SERGENT Jesse	71	55	59	76	78	63	53	58	55	0	59	73	73	75
24	MOLLEMA Bauke	73	80	80	76	74	59	75	75	80	0	75	80	79	85
25	KANGERT Tanel	71	77	75	76	56	59	60	71	75	0	75	76	76	80

top 25 Cobbles

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nr	CyclistName	FLA	MOU	HIL	TT	PRL	COB	SPR	ACC	DHL	FTR	STA	RES	REC	POP
1	CANCELLARA Fabian	79	56	76	79	82	83	76	77	73	0	80	77	67	83
2	TERPSTRA Niki	77	75	75	75	74	83	75	74	69	0	79	78	76	83
3	SAGAN Peter	80	66	81	72	80	83	83	80	78	0	80	80	74	87
4	BOONEN Tom	77	60	72	59	60	83	77	75	53	0	77	75	74	82
5	VANMARCKE Sep	76	55	75	52	50	83	75	74	73	0	76	75	68	81
6	VAN AVERMAET Greg	77	61	79	53	50	82	76	76	78	0	79	78	74	83
7	VANDENBERGH Stijn	74	54	62	52	50	80	71	72	52	0	74	74	68	79
8	DEGENKOLB John	80	60	76	57	50	79	83	79	74	0	80	76	74	85
9	STYBAR Zdenek	74	65	75	57	50	79	75	73	73	0	76	76	75	81
10	THOMAS Geraint	74	75	74	76	78	78	74	72	73	0	74	76	76	81
11	BOOM Lars	74	65	74	75	73	78	75	72	64	0	72	75	75	80
12	LANGEVELD Sebastian	72	54	64	60	73	78	64	71	53	0	73	73	66	79
13	CHAVANEL Sylvain	75	76	76	79	81	77	75	74	74	0	74	77	77	83
14	BOASSON HAGEN Edvald	75	64	76	63	75	77	77	76	74	0	75	76	74	82
15	STANNARD Ian	72	59	66	63	70	77	67	71	53	0	71	74	74	79
16	KRISTOFF Alexander	79	67	76	60	56	77	83	80	58	0	80	77	76	86
17	TURGOT SÃ©bastien	72	53	65	52	73	77	71	71	59	0	73	73	66	79
18	VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume	72	66	60	70	74	76	66	71	50	0	71	75	75	79
19	DEMARE Arnaud	77	67	74	61	50	76	82	76	58	0	76	75	75	83
20	DRUCKER Jempy	72	60	71	58	77	76	75	72	58	0	72	74	74	79
21	HAUSSLER Heinrich	73	54	64	57	50	76	77	73	56	0	74	73	62	80
22	LEUKEMANS BjÃ¶rn	73	59	77	53	50	76	74	73	75	0	74	75	73	80
23	PAOLINI Luca	73	54	75	52	50	76	75	73	74	0	74	74	63	79
24	BOZIC Borut	73	53	70	52	73	76	76	73	61	0	73	73	59	79
25	WYNANTS Maarten	72	55	63	52	50	76	61	72	61	0	71	73	73	78

top 25 Sprint

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nr	CyclistName	FLA	MOU	HIL	TT	PRL	COB	SPR	ACC	DHL	FTR	STA	RES	REC	POP
1	SAGAN Peter	80	66	81	72	80	83	83	80	78	0	80	80	74	87
2	KITTEL Marcel	77	59	56	63	79	51	83	77	50	0	74	73	74	84
3	KRISTOFF Alexander	79	67	76	60	56	77	83	80	58	0	80	77	76	86
4	CAVENDISH Mark	76	60	74	59	74	57	83	77	52	0	74	74	74	83
5	DEGENKOLB John	80	60	76	57	50	79	83	79	74	0	80	76	74	85
6	GREIPEL AndrÃ©	78	61	74	55	59	62	83	79	63	0	75	74	75	85
7	BOUHANNI Nacer	77	54	73	52	50	57	83	77	66	0	74	73	73	83
8	DEMARE Arnaud	77	67	74	61	50	76	82	76	58	0	76	75	75	83
9	VIVIANI Elia	74	56	70	53	73	58	81	75	58	0	73	73	73	81
10	COQUARD Bryan	74	57	74	55	50	58	80	75	62	0	73	74	73	81
11	NIZZOLO Giacomo	73	55	72	56	77	52	79	74	62	0	73	73	73	81
12	DUMOULIN Samuel	74	66	76	55	50	51	79	75	75	0	74	75	74	82
13	FARRAR Tyler	74	57	69	54	74	75	79	75	51	0	74	74	73	81
14	BOS Theo	73	54	53	52	50	50	79	73	50	0	71	64	70	80
15	RENSHAW Mark	73	53	57	51	50	60	79	73	51	0	72	67	69	80
16	MODOLO Sacha	74	51	67	51	50	57	79	74	61	0	74	68	56	80
17	VAN STAEYEN Michael	74	52	62	51	50	54	79	74	55	0	73	64	57	80
18	ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin	74	75	76	54	53	59	78	74	75	0	73	75	74	81
19	MEZGEC Luka	73	53	71	51	50	55	78	73	65	0	72	73	66	80
20	NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas	72	65	75	65	80	50	77	73	73	0	73	74	74	80
21	MATTHEWS Michael	73	57	76	64	68	50	77	75	71	0	73	74	62	81
22	BOASSON HAGEN Edvald	75	64	76	63	75	77	77	76	74	0	75	76	74	82
23	BENNATI Daniele	73	54	74	63	74	61	77	74	73	0	73	74	64	80
24	MEERSMAN Gianni	73	70	76	60	76	50	77	73	76	0	71	76	75	81
25	BOONEN Tom	77	60	72	59	60	83	77	75	53	0	77	75	74	82

top 25 Stamina

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nr	CyclistName	FLA	MOU	HIL	TT	PRL	COB	SPR	ACC	DHL	FTR	STA	RES	REC	POP
1	SAGAN Peter	80	66	81	72	80	83	83	80	78	0	80	80	74	87
2	KRISTOFF Alexander	79	67	76	60	56	77	83	80	58	0	80	77	76	86
3	DEGENKOLB John	80	60	76	57	50	79	83	79	74	0	80	76	74	85
4	CANCELLARA Fabian	79	56	76	79	82	83	76	77	73	0	80	77	67	83
5	VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro	74	84	83	77	80	55	76	80	82	0	79	82	82	87
6	VAN AVERMAET Greg	77	61	79	53	50	82	76	76	78	0	79	78	74	83
7	TERPSTRA Niki	77	75	75	75	74	83	75	74	69	0	79	78	76	83
8	GERRANS Simon	72	75	81	56	73	50	75	75	76	0	78	77	75	82
9	BOONEN Tom	77	60	72	59	60	83	77	75	53	0	77	75	74	82
10	GILBERT Philippe	73	75	82	71	78	60	76	77	75	0	77	78	74	83
11	RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquim	73	84	82	76	50	50	74	76	82	0	77	82	82	87
12	DEMARE Arnaud	77	67	74	61	50	76	82	76	58	0	76	75	75	83
13	STYBAR Zdenek	74	65	75	57	50	79	75	73	73	0	76	76	75	81
14	VANMARCKE Sep	76	55	75	52	50	83	75	74	73	0	76	75	68	81
15	GREIPEL AndrÃ©	78	61	74	55	59	62	83	79	63	0	75	74	75	85
16	BOASSON HAGEN Edvald	75	64	76	63	75	77	77	76	74	0	75	76	74	82
17	KWIATKOWSKI Michal	74	76	81	77	81	74	75	75	76	0	75	79	77	84
18	MOLLEMA Bauke	73	80	80	76	74	59	75	75	80	0	75	80	79	85
19	COSTA Rui Alberto Faria	73	80	78	76	59	52	75	73	81	0	75	81	81	85
20	GALLOPIN Tony	74	75	78	63	74	74	75	73	77	0	75	77	74	81
21	POZZATO Filippo	73	52	75	52	75	75	75	74	74	0	75	74	57	80
22	BAZZANA Alessandro	71	52	69	51	50	56	74	71	64	0	75	69	58	78
23	GASPAROTTO Enrico	71	60	77	51	59	51	65	72	74	0	75	74	62	79
24	SELVAGGI Mirko	69	51	62	50	50	74	63	71	57	0	75	64	54	68
25	KANGERT Tanel	71	77	75	76	56	59	60	71	75	0	75	76	76	80

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nr	CyclistName	FLA	MOU	HIL	TT	PRL	COB	SPR	ACC	DHL	FTR	STA	RES	REC	POP
1	VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro	74	84	83	77	80	55	76	80	82	0	79	82	82	87
2	RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquim	73	84	82	76	50	50	74	76	82	0	77	82	82	87
3	NIBALI Vincenzo	73	84	79	79	73	74	75	77	82	0	74	82	82	87
4	CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto	72	82	78	78	50	53	74	74	79	0	72	82	82	86
5	QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander	66	83	76	77	50	50	60	73	79	0	72	81	82	85
6	FROOME Chris	73	83	76	81	75	50	75	73	79	0	71	81	82	86
7	VAN GARDEREN Tejay	72	81	75	78	79	52	71	73	78	0	71	80	82	84
8	COSTA Rui Alberto Faria	73	80	78	76	59	52	75	73	81	0	75	81	81	85
9	EVANS Cadel	72	79	77	77	75	51	74	73	78	0	72	80	81	84
10	PERAUD Jean-Christophe	71	81	75	77	77	51	67	73	77	0	71	79	81	84
11	POZZOVIVO Domenico	71	81	78	77	50	50	60	73	77	0	73	80	80	84
12	PINOT Thibaut	70	82	75	76	51	52	61	73	79	0	71	79	80	83
13	MOLLEMA Bauke	73	80	80	76	74	59	75	75	80	0	75	80	79	85
14	BARDET Romain	72	80	77	69	50	52	74	74	78	0	73	79	79	83
15	MAJKA Rafal	71	83	77	76	50	50	67	74	81	0	73	79	79	84
16	KELDERMAN Wilco	72	78	75	76	75	54	68	72	75	0	71	78	79	82
17	FRANK Mathias	68	78	75	76	75	50	62	71	75	0	71	77	79	82
18	HORNER Chris	60	80	75	68	50	50	67	72	76	0	70	78	79	82
19	PORTE Richie	71	80	75	77	77	53	64	72	77	0	69	78	79	82
20	MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel	71	80	81	67	50	50	69	74	78	0	74	79	78	84
21	URAN URAN Rigoberto	72	80	77	77	61	50	68	73	77	0	72	78	78	83
22	FUGLSANG Jakob	72	78	75	73	73	74	72	72	76	0	71	77	78	81
23	SPILAK Simon	73	76	75	76	75	50	57	71	75	0	71	77	78	81
24	TALANSKY Andrew	71	78	75	76	73	52	66	71	75	0	62	77	78	81
25	KWIATKOWSKI Michal	74	76	81	77	81	74	75	75	76	0	75	79	77	84

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nr	CyclistName	FLA	MOU	HIL	TT	PRL	COB	SPR	ACC	DHL	FTR	STA	RES	REC	POP
1	VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro	74	84	83	77	80	55	76	80	82	0	79	82	82	87
2	RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquim	73	84	82	76	50	50	74	76	82	0	77	82	82	87
3	NIBALI Vincenzo	73	84	79	79	73	74	75	77	82	0	74	82	82	87
4	SAGAN Peter	80	66	81	72	80	83	83	80	78	0	80	80	74	87
5	CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto	72	82	78	78	50	53	74	74	79	0	72	82	82	86
6	FROOME Chris	73	83	76	81	75	50	75	73	79	0	71	81	82	86
7	KRISTOFF Alexander	79	67	76	60	56	77	83	80	58	0	80	77	76	86
8	QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander	66	83	76	77	50	50	60	73	79	0	72	81	82	85
9	COSTA Rui Alberto Faria	73	80	78	76	59	52	75	73	81	0	75	81	81	85
10	MOLLEMA Bauke	73	80	80	76	74	59	75	75	80	0	75	80	79	85
11	GREIPEL AndrÃ©	78	61	74	55	59	62	83	79	63	0	75	74	75	85
12	DEGENKOLB John	80	60	76	57	50	79	83	79	74	0	80	76	74	85
13	VAN GARDEREN Tejay	72	81	75	78	79	52	71	73	78	0	71	80	82	84
14	EVANS Cadel	72	79	77	77	75	51	74	73	78	0	72	80	81	84
15	PERAUD Jean-Christophe	71	81	75	77	77	51	67	73	77	0	71	79	81	84
16	POZZOVIVO Domenico	71	81	78	77	50	50	60	73	77	0	73	80	80	84
17	MAJKA Rafal	71	83	77	76	50	50	67	74	81	0	73	79	79	84
18	MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel	71	80	81	67	50	50	69	74	78	0	74	79	78	84
19	KWIATKOWSKI Michal	74	76	81	77	81	74	75	75	76	0	75	79	77	84
20	KITTEL Marcel	77	59	56	63	79	51	83	77	50	0	74	73	74	84
21	PINOT Thibaut	70	82	75	76	51	52	61	73	79	0	71	79	80	83
22	BARDET Romain	72	80	77	69	50	52	74	74	78	0	73	79	79	83
23	URAN URAN Rigoberto	72	80	77	77	61	50	68	73	77	0	72	78	78	83
24	CHAVANEL Sylvain	75	76	76	79	81	77	75	74	74	0	74	77	77	83
25	MARTIN Tony	77	76	76	84	76	58	75	72	75	0	63	78	77	83
26	TERPSTRA Niki	77	75	75	75	74	83	75	74	69	0	79	78	76	83
27	DEMARE Arnaud	77	67	74	61	50	76	82	76	58	0	76	75	75	83
28	ULISSI Diego	73	78	81	76	53	52	75	74	78	0	73	78	75	83
29	VAN AVERMAET Greg	77	61	79	53	50	82	76	76	78	0	79	78	74	83
30	GILBERT Philippe	73	75	82	71	78	60	76	77	75	0	77	78	74	83
31	CAVENDISH Mark	76	60	74	59	74	57	83	77	52	0	74	74	74	83
32	BOUHANNI Nacer	77	54	73	52	50	57	83	77	66	0	74	73	73	83
33	CANCELLARA Fabian	79	56	76	79	82	83	76	77	73	0	80	77	67	83
34	KELDERMAN Wilco	72	78	75	76	75	54	68	72	75	0	71	78	79	82
35	FRANK Mathias	68	78	75	76	75	50	62	71	75	0	71	77	79	82
36	HORNER Chris	60	80	75	68	50	50	67	72	76	0	70	78	79	82
37	PORTE Richie	71	80	75	77	77	53	64	72	77	0	69	78	79	82
38	KREUZIGER Roman	70	78	77	76	71	53	63	73	75	0	74	77	77	82
39	ROCHE Nicolas	71	80	75	75	50	50	74	73	77	0	72	77	77	82
40	GERRANS Simon	72	75	81	56	73	50	75	75	76	0	78	77	75	82
41	BOONEN Tom	77	60	72	59	60	83	77	75	53	0	77	75	74	82
42	BOASSON HAGEN Edvald	75	64	76	63	75	77	77	76	74	0	75	76	74	82
43	DUMOULIN Samuel	74	66	76	55	50	51	79	75	75	0	74	75	74	82
44	FUGLSANG Jakob	72	78	75	73	73	74	72	72	76	0	71	77	78	81
45	SPILAK Simon	73	76	75	76	75	50	57	71	75	0	71	77	78	81
46	TALANSKY Andrew	71	78	75	76	73	52	66	71	75	0	62	77	78	81
47	GESINK Robert	72	77	76	71	53	50	67	72	77	0	73	77	77	81
48	ROGERS Michael	72	78	75	75	73	50	74	72	76	0	72	77	77	81
49	BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto	71	77	77	70	50	51	71	72	75	0	72	77	77	81
50	SCARPONI Michele	72	78	76	74	50	50	63	72	76	0	72	77	77	81

Edited by TankNL on 11-08-2014 11:29

MARSUPILAMI

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Posted on 11-08-2014 11:28

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Thanks a lot TankNL !!!

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#67

Posted on 11-08-2014 11:30

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contador 82 and valverde 84.. lol

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Some of the stats look pretty decent, but MO is messed up xD

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@Dusen Of course!

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Posted on 11-08-2014 13:01

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Dusen wrote:
Some of the stats look pretty decent, but MO is messed up xD

Can you explain messed up?
Is it the fact that Contador is not the top mountain? Or that Valverde is first?

those top 10 riders can be altered in 2 minutes, when pasting the result in any .cdb file. I'm more interested in the rest. What do you think of the riders 10 to 40? Any surprises? are there riders missing?

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Posted on 11-08-2014 13:04

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maybe W. Barguil is missing in the MO

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I don't like your stats

Valverde 84 in mountain??? Sagan 83 in sprints??? And many more crazy stats!

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Posted on 11-08-2014 13:22

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Whats is the last stats? Popularity, what does it do in the game?

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zachbastian wrote:
maybe W. Barguil is missing in the MO

CyclistName	FLA	MOU	HIL	TT	PRL	COB	SPR	ACC	DHL	FTR	STA	RES	REC	POP
BARGUIL Warren	71	76	75	52	62	50	63	71	75	0	61	74	74	79

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Posted on 11-08-2014 13:56

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zachbastian wrote:
Whats is the last stats? Popularity, what does it do in the game?

that's the stat that the sponsor uses to see if a "big name" has entered a race. The popularity of a rider... this is messed up in every database that I've seen.

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AiZaK wrote:
I don't like your stats

Valverde 84 in mountain??? Sagan 83 in sprints??? And many more crazy stats!

again... your zooming in on 2 riders...

Sagan has scored sooooo many points in the last 3 years in sprint stages... that my algorithm gives him (among 7 others) the highest points; 83. Of course I can adjust this while copying and pasting it into a database. Give Kittel 84, Cavendish 83 and the rest 82... but that's all matter of opinion. I would like to see if the algorithm in general produces the right stats... So apart from maybe a couple of riders that need to be nerved... any other feedback?

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TankNL wrote:

zachbastian wrote:
Whats is the last stats? Popularity, what does it do in the game?

that's the stat that the sponsor uses to see if a "big name" has entered a race. The popularity of a rider... this is messed up in every database that I've seen.

OK. Looks pretty good. Needs a few adjustments here and there, but interesting! Good work so far!

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TankNL wrote:

zachbastian wrote:
Whats is the last stats? Popularity, what does it do in the game?

that's the stat that the sponsor uses to see if a "big name" has entered a race. The popularity of a rider... this is messed up in every database that I've seen.

OK. Looks pretty good. Needs a few adjustments here and there, but interesting! Good work so far!

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Posted on 11-08-2014 14:28

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TankNL wrote:

AiZaK wrote:
I don't like your stats

Valverde 84 in mountain??? Sagan 83 in sprints??? And many more crazy stats!

SAGAN:
But if a sprinter always finishes 4th or 5th...he isnt as good as the other sprinters...so just the points are not the only thing to look at...if kittel beats sagan all the time, sagan can not be the better sprinter...and if sagan wins small stages in smaller events against swift or renshaw, or whoever...it does not mean he is the greatest...so your "algorithm" is not perfect...

VALVERDE: if valverde would ride like his stats are here...he shold have won the tour by 8 mins or something like that.

OVERALL: does your "algorithm" mean, that if i would be a rider, and i would just participate in small events, and would win everything there...and if i would suck against nibali, froome... etc. i would still be the best rider overall?

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I think it's a question of changing the value for each race category (WT, .hc, .1 etc.) so the difference is bigger. That way the Tour for example will count even more and riders such as Sagan and Valverde will not be the best in sprints and mountains respectively.

EDIT: Also I don't know how well the stats will work ingame. One of the most concerning points is that Sagan (+ Kristoff and Degenkolb) scores most of their points in sprint stages with small hills in the end, and PCM can't see the difference from these stages and totally flat stages.. (Don't know if it has changed in PCM14..)

Edited by Wild Dog on 11-08-2014 14:42

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