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Posted on 24-10-2013 11:32
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Landscape is one thing, but, though Galibier might be different, they're not the only mountain pass with great landscapes.
There are many mountains both in the Alps and Pyrénées, some more famous or prestigious than the ones you mentioned, but that's mostly because they've been used frequently and that some action happened there.
If some new climbs are not introduced, and they could have as much potential as the famous ones, they'll never get a chance to become classics. |
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Posted on 24-10-2013 11:32
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Cossack wrote:
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Cyanide266 wrote:
I can't wait for this moment
Why? Quintana has nothing to gain from stage like this.
But it will be definitely a really exciting stage, imagine the 2013 crosswind stage with multiplied splits and cobbles. Any big crash/puncture may be crucial if you don't stay in front of peleton (and, as we know, everybody wanting to stay in front leads to more crashes) 
Yep, i am looking forward to that. I expect Cannondale and few others like Saxo setting massive tempo there,should be fun.
You're missing that OPQS is the strongest team on cobbles by far
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Posted on 24-10-2013 11:37
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kubys wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Cossack wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Cyanide266 wrote:
I can't wait for this moment
Why? Quintana has nothing to gain from stage like this.
But it will be definitely a really exciting stage, imagine the 2013 crosswind stage with multiplied splits and cobbles. Any big crash/puncture may be crucial if you don't stay in front of peleton (and, as we know, everybody wanting to stay in front leads to more crashes)
Yep, i am looking forward to that. I expect Cannondale and few others like Saxo setting massive tempo there,should be fun.
You're missing that OPQS is the strongest team on cobbles by far
At Paris Robuaix maybe.
At Tour they will be riding for Uran and set tempo he can follow. So it doesn't matter as much.
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Posted on 24-10-2013 11:40
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Alakagom wrote:
kubys wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Cossack wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Cyanide266 wrote:
I can't wait for this moment
Why? Quintana has nothing to gain from stage like this.
But it will be definitely a really exciting stage, imagine the 2013 crosswind stage with multiplied splits and cobbles. Any big crash/puncture may be crucial if you don't stay in front of peleton (and, as we know, everybody wanting to stay in front leads to more crashes)
Yep, i am looking forward to that. I expect Cannondale and few others like Saxo setting massive tempo there,should be fun.
You're missing that OPQS is the strongest team on cobbles by far
At Paris Robuaix maybe.
At Tour they will be riding for Uran and set tempo he can follow. So it doesn't matter as much.
You never can be sure, but I don't think, that Å tybar, Terpstra, Boonen, Steegmans, Martin and Cavendish will miss TdF. Probably Boonen is the only one from this squad who wouldn't start there, and Cavendish wouldn't work much. But still, this squad can really hurt the peloton.
Edited by kubys on 24-10-2013 11:41
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Posted on 24-10-2013 11:43
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Also Lefevere promised Uran TdF or just leadership on GT? I don't know if I missed something.
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Posted on 24-10-2013 11:48
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kubys wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
kubys wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Cossack wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Cyanide266 wrote:
I can't wait for this moment
Why? Quintana has nothing to gain from stage like this.
But it will be definitely a really exciting stage, imagine the 2013 crosswind stage with multiplied splits and cobbles. Any big crash/puncture may be crucial if you don't stay in front of peleton (and, as we know, everybody wanting to stay in front leads to more crashes)
Yep, i am looking forward to that. I expect Cannondale and few others like Saxo setting massive tempo there,should be fun.
You're missing that OPQS is the strongest team on cobbles by far
At Paris Robuaix maybe.
At Tour they will be riding for Uran and set tempo he can follow. So it doesn't matter as much.
You never can be sure, but I don't think, that Å tybar, Terpstra, Boonen, Steegmans, Martin and Cavendish will miss TdF. Probably Boonen is the only one from this squad who wouldn't start there, and Cavendish wouldn't work much. But still, this squad can really hurt the peloton.
For sure it can destroy the peleton. However they will not to that if Uran couldn't follow their pace.
Uran says he wants to do Tour. Mixed signals from sources, some say he'll do Tour, some Vuelta - Giro.
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Posted on 24-10-2013 14:30
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Everything in life could do with more cobbles. The TdF is certainly no exception.
It was eleven more than necessary.
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Posted on 24-10-2013 16:03
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Last thing I read about OPQS was that they would go for sprint wins with Cav, GC with Kwiatek and Giro-Vuelta double with Uran. Also, Boonen said he doesn't say no to racing the Tour again.
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Posted on 24-10-2013 16:30
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"MAYBE we should let Uran go for a Giro-Vuelta double"
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Posted on 25-10-2013 06:07
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kubys wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Cossack wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Cyanide266 wrote:
I can't wait for this moment
Why? Quintana has nothing to gain from stage like this.
But it will be definitely a really exciting stage, imagine the 2013 crosswind stage with multiplied splits and cobbles. Any big crash/puncture may be crucial if you don't stay in front of peleton (and, as we know, everybody wanting to stay in front leads to more crashes)
Yep, i am looking forward to that. I expect Cannondale and few others like Saxo setting massive tempo there,should be fun.
You're missing that OPQS is the strongest team on cobbles by far
Of course teams like Belkin and OPQS will be strong too, i was rather pointing to Saxo as the team with possible big GC favourite. And Cannondale was mentioned because we saw how much they love to tear peloton apart for Sagan, i expect them to go crazy there.
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Posted on 26-10-2013 02:40
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What's with the assumption that all the other GC people are substantially better than Froome?
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Posted on 26-10-2013 04:28
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547984 wrote:
What's with the assumption that all the other GC people are substantially better than Froome?
Do you mean Cobblestone? Probably because of Froome's bike handling. I think too that he will probably lose time to Contador or Nibali but in the end, well, he will probably be the one guy who profits from cbs.
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Posted on 26-10-2013 05:37
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I'm just thinking out loud here but when comparing Froome to Quintana on cobbles, shouldn't we be considering their height and weight? Froome is taller and heavier which, if I am not mistaken, gives something of an advantage on cobbles as you exert more downward pressure to keep stability. In fact I can't think of any really good lightweight cobblestone riders at the moment. Of course bike handling plays a huge role (Wiggins here would have been fuuuun) but there are other factors.
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Posted on 26-10-2013 06:37
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CountArach wrote:
I'm just thinking out loud here but when comparing Froome to Quintana on cobbles, shouldn't we be considering their height and weight? Froome is taller and heavier which, if I am not mistaken, gives something of an advantage on cobbles as you exert more downward pressure to keep stability. In fact I can't think of any really good lightweight cobblestone riders at the moment. Of course bike handling plays a huge role (Wiggins here would have been fuuuun) but there are other factors.
Don't know if you count them as lightweight, but Langeveld and Å tybar...
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Posted on 26-10-2013 13:22
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Van den Broeck says he's quiet good on cobbles (for a climber) and he does have a strong team (Roelandts, Bak, Greipel, Sieberg). It would be awesome if Lotto/OPQS/Cannondale/Saxo/Belkin tear the peleton apart and drop Froome, but I fear that there won't happen very much. Probably all GC-team will take it easy "because cobbles are unfair" and they won't care if Sagan takes 5 minutes or so. |
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Posted on 26-10-2013 14:31
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kubys wrote:
CountArach wrote:
I'm just thinking out loud here but when comparing Froome to Quintana on cobbles, shouldn't we be considering their height and weight? Froome is taller and heavier which, if I am not mistaken, gives something of an advantage on cobbles as you exert more downward pressure to keep stability. In fact I can't think of any really good lightweight cobblestone riders at the moment. Of course bike handling plays a huge role (Wiggins here would have been fuuuun) but there are other factors.
Don't know if you count them as lightweight, but Langeveld and Å tybar...
Ah yes of course, and both are lighter than Froome.
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Posted on 26-10-2013 14:45
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Power and weight, while important, come second to knowing how to navigate cobbles to save energy.
It's why Hagen sucks on them and someone like Hayman is excellent
Definitely but when neither of them really know how to navigate the cobbles and neither of them are in a team that is particularly good over them, then we have to look to these other things in order to split the difference.
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Posted on 26-10-2013 14:56
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CountArach wrote:
I'm just thinking out loud here but when comparing Froome to Quintana on cobbles, shouldn't we be considering their height and weight? Froome is taller and heavier which, if I am not mistaken, gives something of an advantage on cobbles as you exert more downward pressure to keep stability. In fact I can't think of any really good lightweight cobblestone riders at the moment. Of course bike handling plays a huge role (Wiggins here would have been fuuuun) but there are other factors.
https://www.procyc...?id=104232
Look who finished 25th 
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Posted on 26-10-2013 15:41
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It would also be really funny if Wiggins gains a minute on Froome. Imagine the butthurt within Team Sky.
Also if Sky doesn't bring Eisel next year, they're utterly retarded.
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Posted on 26-10-2013 16:30
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Jesleyh wrote:
CountArach wrote:
I'm just thinking out loud here but when comparing Froome to Quintana on cobbles, shouldn't we be considering their height and weight? Froome is taller and heavier which, if I am not mistaken, gives something of an advantage on cobbles as you exert more downward pressure to keep stability. In fact I can't think of any really good lightweight cobblestone riders at the moment. Of course bike handling plays a huge role (Wiggins here would have been fuuuun) but there are other factors.
https://www.procyc...?id=104232
Look who finished 25th
Oh wow, that is not what I would expect. Then again he was a prologue rider in those days so probably more suited to the stronger short-term efforts that you need.
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