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TdF'13 Stage 19 - Bourg-d'Oisans to Le Grand-Bornand (July 19)
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| kumazan |
Posted on 18-07-2013 21:58
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
How can you compare accidently causing a crash (Greipel) to purposely ruining the race for another rider (Mollema/Belkin)?
Yep, causing a crash is far worse.
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And besides, when have Movistar done the same thing in the past?
Ask Leipheimer.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 22:00
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Mwuhi wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
TimoCycling wrote:
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ruben wrote:
Yes you are bitter and pathetic. React like a child.. seriously. Grow the fuck up
Says the biggest fanboy and hypocrite on the forum
You are the biggest hypocrite yourself lol
Give me one reason why. It isnt me, in comparsion to your fellow dutchie over there, who has cried for several years about how unlucky and how teams have taken advantages of his preferred riders' crashed and so on. Now, on the other hand, its completely legitimate that 1 team (Yes, Belkin) completely destroy one man's GC (and no, i dont care if he is doped or not - fact is, they ruined 8 months of preparation).
So if someone have a flat tire, they always have to wait? Come on... Belkin was already riding(they actually had a deal with OPQS), so why should they stop when someone has a flat tire. I don't think anyone would stop when climbing the Alpe D'Huez when you competitor has a flat tire...
I'd guess we have had this discussion roughly 10-20 times on the forum. I can see the argument, but what you forget is there were a significant difference between the workload from Belkin before compared to after the bike-change. That's were my problem is. And I dont really think you can compare the 2 situations to each other, really
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| Wilier |
Posted on 18-07-2013 22:00
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Why are Contador, Valverde and co. suddenly regarded as saints again? Is it because Sky is dominating this sport now? A lot of people claim Sky ruins the race because they're doped. So what about Contador and Valverde, then? |
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| ruben |
Posted on 18-07-2013 22:02
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kumazan wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
How can you compare accidently causing a crash (Greipel) to purposely ruining the race for another rider (Mollema/Belkin)?
Yep, causing a crash is far worse.
Pellizotti2 wrote:
And besides, when have Movistar done the same thing in the past?
Ask Leipheimer.
Not to discuss the other shit Valverde has pulled in the past (and never admitting he did anything wrong which is the worst part). He deserves no sympathy really
(and before pulling the Dekker card, he actually admitted EVERYTHING now)
Edited by ruben on 18-07-2013 22:02
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 18-07-2013 22:07
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
what happend today is going to pull through tomorrow. Mollema/Ten Dam going down even more and the worse part (for me) is that I actually need to read the people are happy about that 
why did I post this, now we're having a useless/pointless discussion about everything again. sometimes I do hate myself
Edited by SSJ2Luigi on 18-07-2013 22:08
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| Farmer Sam |
Posted on 18-07-2013 22:09
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
what happend today is going to pull through tomorrow. Mollema/Ten Dam going down even more and the worse part (for me) is that I actually need to read the people are happy about that
why did I post this, now we're having a useless/pointless discussion about everything again. sometimes I do hate myself
WW3 has officially begun.
Edited by Farmer Sam on 18-07-2013 22:09
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 22:09
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It also seems like you do hate Valverde quite alot based on the post you wrote on the echelons-day (you basically said it was his own fault cause of he is/was doped)..
On your point Willier, I think you are right. 2 years ago, the frenchies hated Contador, but since Sky has dominated the race for 2 years, Contador is now more or less a saint which I think is pretty humanly. I don't think it necessarily it fair towards Froome (as Contador, Valverde and others have been implicated in some doping cases), but that's a normal reaction which I share. When Contador was superior, I didn't like him either |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 22:10
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Riis123 wrote:
Nah, why would i hate Quick-Step? It was legimate that they were pulling in contrary to Belkin who just happened to immediately fly to the front when Valverde changed his bike. That combined with the fact that I never have liked Rabobank since Michael Rasmussen was thrown out (despite they knew that he was doping, but acted well into the race when he was winning..) and you barely cant find any more boring riders than Ten Dam and Mollema. All these things combined makes me more or less hate Belkin (or at least hope that they dont do well, especially since i have been a Valv-fan since Couchevel and he almost never have had the opportunity to show his true potential in the Tour). So i guess I'm a very bitter, and as Valverde, I dont think i just would let it go...
I know i can sound fanatic, but that's just how I feel about it
Makes sense that you don't like Mollema or Ten Dam for being "boring", but you like Valverde, who is always attacking and stuff 
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| Wilier |
Posted on 18-07-2013 22:12
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
what happend today is going to pull through tomorrow. Mollema/Ten Dam going down even more and the worse part (for me) is that I actually need to read the people are happy about that
why did I post this, now we're having a useless/pointless discussion about everything again. sometimes I do hate myself
Don't blame yourself. This is a public forum. It's a place for discussion. (though I think it would be better if this discussion would move to another thread). |
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| XxMillad24Xx |
Posted on 18-07-2013 22:22
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Breakaway should take this. I hope Schleck gets in it. Even though he bonked today(and many others) He looke good on the climbs.
Edited by XxMillad24Xx on 18-07-2013 22:22
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| Daggen |
Posted on 18-07-2013 22:23
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 18-07-2013 22:27
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I'm going to stick my neck out and say that Cuddles will be in the break tomorrow 
I sense he's been hanging back a bit so he can be given license to go for the stage win, though I doubt that will happen.
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| Kimmage |
Posted on 18-07-2013 22:38
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Stromeon wrote:
I'm going to stick my neck out and say that Cuddles will be in the break tomorrow
I sense he's been hanging back a bit so he can be given license to go for the stage win, though I doubt that will happen.
And then allow me to stick my neck out and say that he won't have the legs to get into the break. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 19-07-2013 03:35
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alexkr00 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Nah, why would i hate Quick-Step? It was legimate that they were pulling in contrary to Belkin who just happened to immediately fly to the front when Valverde changed his bike. That combined with the fact that I never have liked Rabobank since Michael Rasmussen was thrown out (despite they knew that he was doping, but acted well into the race when he was winning..) and you barely cant find any more boring riders than Ten Dam and Mollema. All these things combined makes me more or less hate Belkin (or at least hope that they dont do well, especially since i have been a Valv-fan since Couchevel and he almost never have had the opportunity to show his true potential in the Tour). So i guess I'm a very bitter, and as Valverde, I dont think i just would let it go...
I know i can sound fanatic, but that's just how I feel about it
Makes sense that you don't like Mollema or Ten Dam for being "boring", but you like Valverde, who is always attacking and stuff
You need to comment at everything I write you, dont you?
As I also - dunno whether you read it or not.... - wrote, I dont like Belkin for several reasons. Also, I find Valverde a liiiitle bit less boring than Ten Dam and Mollema, but I guess that's rather subjective
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| Movistar |
Posted on 19-07-2013 03:43
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How about Cadel on a break for tomorrow. They tried with TVG today after he had been looking much worse than Evans and Evans tanked the TT and today. |
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| samdiatmh |
Posted on 19-07-2013 04:56
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Movistar wrote:
Evans tanked the TT and today.
Evans didn't tank the TT, he's sick
the illness is 'old man disease' and can't be recovered from
Edited by samdiatmh on 19-07-2013 04:56
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| welker3257 |
Posted on 19-07-2013 05:00
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samdiatmh wrote:
Movistar wrote:
Evans tanked the TT and today.
Evans didn't tank the TT, he's sick
the illness is 'old man disease' and can't be recovered from
Well I don't think that one of the effects of old man's disease is getting beaten in a Mountain TT by Mark Cavendish.
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 19-07-2013 06:36
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I hope that Gesink or Poels attack today! Hopefully in a break that stays till the end. But knowing the peloton, it will be tough...
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| vismitananda |
Posted on 19-07-2013 06:48
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I want to see Puncheurs take this out, maybe a Gilbert and Rodriguez win. Oh if Gilbert will leave his old mate Evans behind?
-Pain is temporary, Quitting lasts forever-
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 19-07-2013 07:34
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samdiatmh wrote:
Movistar wrote:
Evans tanked the TT and today.
Evans didn't tank the TT, he's sick
the illness is 'old man disease' and can't be recovered from
Either that or the famous BMC virus... |
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