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ICL19 - General | Rider Development
Ripley
Top  #581 Print Post
Posted on 10-11-2020 22:56
Nice! We were able to sign a big talent, Wayne Richards, an 18-year old sprinter with pot 7 and AVG 67. He's still very young, in his first season he'll lead out Broomhead (pot 5, SPR 70).

We also signed the only semi-decent British puncher (pot 5, 69.6) and climber (pot 5, 67.3), there weren't any better options for those terrains. No acceptable cobbler or stage racer, sadly. Wow, Van Hoogten too good for the U23!
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DaveTwoBob
Top  #582 Print Post
Posted on 10-11-2020 23:11
Ollfardh wrote:
I probably overpayed mine a bit but yeah, my other riders are just disappointing anyway Pfft

I have been overbid for a Pot 7 talent Smile Tried to be more sensible this year but will no doubt regret it when Van Hoogten is winning Paris Roubaix!
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Ulrich Ulriksen
Top  #583 Print Post
Posted on 10-11-2020 23:13
Very happy with Micoud, very solid stats at 19. Will fit nicely with our other young TTers.

Scout missed Molnar, the potential 7 in Hungary, good thing she is related to McRettin or heads might have rolled. We also missed Van Hoogten but weren't going to sign him regardless.
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ivaneurope
Top  #584 Print Post
Posted on 11-11-2020 07:30
Since I didn't participate in the scouting, I can't sign any more talents, nor ask for the stats of an individual riderr? I was highly hoping to sign Brochet and Richards and it was all for nothing. Now all I have is two "projects" that I can't find good use for them
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Ripley
Top  #585 Print Post
Posted on 11-11-2020 08:27
So you bought scouting packages and Richards was in there? Thank god you didn't make a higher bid, I would have been very upset to lose out on the only decent British talent around.

There should still be a draft coming up and you can spend your last coins to find out the exact stats beforehand. And you might have the first pick, so it'd be worth it.
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ivaneurope
Top  #586 Print Post
Posted on 11-11-2020 08:59
One issue: I've burned out my entire budget on scouting packs Grin
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Bikex
Top  #587 Print Post
Posted on 11-11-2020 14:07
Ulrich Ulriksen wrote:
Scout missed Molnar, the potential 7 in Hungary, good thing she is related to McRettin or heads might have rolled. We also missed Van Hoogten but weren't going to sign him regardless.


Yeah I got a little bit lucky there. Missed out on Linz, but in general I'm quite happy with my three talents. Only wish I also would've found a decent Italian.

@ivaneurope: Only thing you can do now, is to take a risk with a rider that did well in the U21 World Championships. Wink
 
ivaneurope
Top  #588 Print Post
Posted on 11-11-2020 14:29
Can we still sign talents in this case?
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Bikex
Top  #589 Print Post
Posted on 11-11-2020 15:04
ivaneurope wrote:
Can we still sign talents in this case?


Yes there is still one talent signing round, you can use the file I provided for the last one.
 
Vali
Top  #590 Print Post
Posted on 11-11-2020 22:16
Very nice to sign this years biggest swiss talent. Grin
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Bikex
Top  #591 Print Post
Posted on 12-11-2020 20:48
If you still want to sign talents and/or finish scouting until r10 please do so within the next two days.

Also, do you want to have a draft again or is it not needed?
 
Ripley
Top  #592 Print Post
Posted on 12-11-2020 21:28
I'm still looking for riders, so I would join the draft, but I'd be fine with the next FA market, too.
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df_Trek
Top  #593 Print Post
Posted on 12-11-2020 22:43
for me too, I need more riders but I can rummage between FA
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Shonak
Top  #594 Print Post
Posted on 12-11-2020 22:45
No draft needed imho since its mostly lottery anyway, better to have the fa market insights.
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Croatia14
Top  #595 Print Post
Posted on 13-11-2020 12:38
I liked the draft
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Bikex
Top  #596 Print Post
Posted on 13-11-2020 14:38
In case you are wondering how old a talent is, you can check the spoiler. I think this information should be available Smile

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Bikex
Top  #597 Print Post
Posted on 15-11-2020 13:40
Riders Development

Download: Link
Open Office: https://www.mediafire.com/file/1wdlxb6...e.ods/file (activate macros)

Time for the last task of ICL19, decide the training for your riders.

If you do not care about how development exactly works, you can skip to the part where the file is explained.

Development Mechanics
Behind each stat there is a number that is between 0 and 1000. A basestat of 1000 will give the rider a stat of 85, 0 50. Which basestat is required for which stat can be seen in table 3.
Depending on the training you choose for a rider, there will be points added to his basestats. Each rider has 3 hidden development point pools, randomly assigned depending on his potential. Each season a rider gets points out of these pools to use for development: Points #1,#2,#3. The amount of points depends on various factors like age, potential, belonging to a dev team, race days used, success during the season, points left in pool.
Points #1 will be used for the main training you choose out of 7 options: Stage Race, Mountains, Time Trial, Sprint, Hills, Cobbles, Flat. Getting many points here will result in a high achievable main stat.
Points #2 will be used for a secondary focus you choose. The available secondary focusses depend on the first choice you did. Each choice has a standard option which will boost all backup stats. If you choose something else you might loose some points of your main stat gained from Points #1. For your secondary training you can choose a rate from 1-5 determining how much the rider wants to focus on his secondary choice. 5 being the maximum. If you choose anything lower, the remaining points will distributed according to the Standard training of your choice.
Points #3 are points spent on your Rider Personality. This influences the energy stats (Sta, Res, Rec), as well as Dh and Fi. You have 6 different choices there.
All of these points are rather arbitrary numbers and won't be directly converted into points -> 1 dev point <> 1 base stat point.
It is now possible that riders loose some base stat points (apart from general decline), before development. All these points lost are reassigned during. This influences older riders more than younger riders. This should enable riders to refocus slightly and bring some dynamics into the database. This way it is also possible to slightly control how your rider declines naturally. This also means you get to do training choices for each of the riders on your team.
In some cases it can happen that riders that have not reached their age of decline yet can't maintain all of their stat points (NEW!). This can be a result of poor performances during the season or settings implemented to keep the database balanced. This allows in return to give some developing talents more points so they develop quicker.

The Development File
As always, begin by adding your team ID into C2 in the "Team" tab. In "Teams" you can check for your ID in case you have forgotten.
In "Riders" you will see all your riders listed with their points to spend. You can do your development choices here like in the past. If you want to do that read the part at the end.
Go to the "Cockpit" tab to use the Development Cockpit. Here you find much useful information on your riders while choosing their training. In row 11 you'll find 5 drop down selectors. Use them for your training choices. Start by selecting your first cyclist in the first selector. Information on him will appear. In the #1 selector you can choose the riders main training. In the #2 selector you can select the riders secondary training choice. In the R selector you can choose the 1-5 rate the rider is focusing on his secondary training. Even if selecting 5 the rider should usually progress stronger in your main choice. Exception could happen, if a rider gets much more #2 points than #1 points. In the P selector choose from the 6 possible rider personalities.
Information displayed in the Development cockpit:
Suggested: Suggests an automatically generated training plan for the rider. If you want to skip selecting trainings for some riders, these will be used for their development.
Riders Stats: In row 2 you see the riders actual stats. After selecting a training for him, they'll change to reflect the change. You can tick the "Hide Progress" box to show the old stats again.
Statpoints: There are 4 rows showing riders basestats: "Old Statpoints" showing the riders basestats of last season, "Change" will show the added points depending on your training selections, "New Statpoints" is obvious then, "Missing" are the points missing for the rider to improve this stat by 1.
Age(2019), Potential and Age of Decline of the rider are shown in V2-V4.
Statpoints: Below that you can see the statpoints to spend on a riders development. If #3 is 0, you do not need to choose any personality. If #2 is 0 still choose a secondary focus, as a small portion of #1 also goes there.
When done, check the "Riders" tab to make sure you have selected training for all the riders you want to select it for. Afterwards fo to the "PM" tab and send me columns B-F in a table format as a PM.
You do not like the cockpit? There is still the option to do your development in the "Riders" tab. Read on if you want to do that. In U-W you see the proposed trainings. The standard rate of the secondary choice is always 2. In column Z put 1-7 to get your first choice. In column ZZ your choice will pop up. In column AB put your secondary choice, by putting 1-x. As there are different amount of secondary choices depending on your first choice, x can be different values. You have to try it out or check the "Trainings" tab. To help you in column AB you'll see your choice. Next change the rate of the influence of your Training#2 selection. Put a number between 1 and 5 in column AD. In column AE put anything between A-F for your personality choice. It will appear in column AF. Note: If you have used the selector before you might see a Personality choice in column AG. Anything you put in AE will overwrite that.


Important: Don't try to sort the tables in this file! This will only mess up the file. It seemed like too much work for me to fix this issue, it's part of the file since the very first season. The only thing you can do to change the order of your riders is to sort in the "DB" tab only before(!) starting your development!
Edited by Bikex on 22-11-2020 13:01
 
Shonak
Top  #598 Print Post
Posted on 15-11-2020 15:02
Best file of the year, yippie. On a first glimpse the new details seem to work well, hopefully this doesn't lead to strong riders becoming much stronger and close misses becoming much weaker.
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jaxika
Top  #599 Print Post
Posted on 15-11-2020 15:09
I dont get it, i have a 7 pot 28 years old rider with 32 decline age and still decline...How is that possible?
 
Bikex
Top  #600 Print Post
Posted on 15-11-2020 18:57
I have sent out messages for rebids on talents bid on in this round by several teams. Talents in the spoiler were already signed.

Instructions same as before: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread...st_1375303

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