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| 001RusKZ |
Posted on 22-04-2012 19:49
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Hahaha. There are funny people and write a funny speech.
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| 001RusKZ |
Posted on 22-04-2012 19:50
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Maxim Iglinskiy is really strong rider!!!
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| 001RusKZ |
Posted on 22-04-2012 19:51
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Kazakh Maxim Iglinskiy took a solo victory in the Liege-Bastogne-Liege Classic, one of cycling's top five races!!!
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| 001RusKZ |
Posted on 22-04-2012 20:02
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Astana are kings of Ardennes this year!!! =) Accept) All is fair! 
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 22-04-2012 20:04
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Where's the post saying Iglinskiy's going to win the Tour? |
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| MrDemus |
Posted on 22-04-2012 20:05
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FreitasPCM wrote:
Where's the post saying Iglinskiy's going to win the Tour?
He will have to battle Danny Pate though
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| litllemagnum |
Posted on 22-04-2012 20:09
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lluuiiggii wrote:
sam1196 wrote:
lluuiiggii wrote:
And by that you guys are reassuring what I said: F. Schleck was badly positioned, Gilbert was out of form, Valverde isn't a real favorite + punctured in a horrible time, Vino is no real favorite/wasn't racing, Cunego didn't recover well, etc... after all, Iglinsky didn't beat a lot of top names in top shape, mainly Rodriguez (who could either have had a bad day or not recovered much from Fleche, proved by ending in 15th), and Nibali, who bust all his energy too early.
Nibali couldn't afford to wait for Saint-Nicolas so Iglinskiy had the luck that Nibali was the only one in form.
Exactly, meaning that Iglinskiy didn't put in an 'extraordinarily amazing out-of-this-world' performance today, and can't be labelled 'doper' right away.
I wasn't saying Iglinski is doped but was arguing that almost everyone was in top shape but did nothing for an entire race. Also it was an amazing ride by him. He was clearly the strongest in the race. If you can close a gap of 45 seconds in 5k and then win with 20 seconds difference, you clearly had an amazing ride.
Pozzato sucks!
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| 001RusKZ |
Posted on 22-04-2012 20:10
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In all the countries of the former Soviet Union are now rejoicing!!! Amstel Gold Race - Astana (Kazakhstan), Flèche Wallonne - Katusha (Russia) and Liège - Bastogne - Liège - Astana (Kazakhstan) 
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| markene2 |
Posted on 22-04-2012 20:16
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@litllemagnum
From the Rodriguez and Iglinsky group the gap was 26 second at the botom of the climb acording to Sporza
Venga Vino
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| Deda |
Posted on 22-04-2012 20:21
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My two cents, literally: great race!
If offense is the best defence, does it mean that defence is the worst defence?
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| litllemagnum |
Posted on 22-04-2012 20:22
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They were saying 45 seconds though so my bad if it was only 26 but it is still an amazing ride
Pozzato sucks!
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 22-04-2012 20:23
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001RusKZ wrote:
In all the countries of the former Soviet Union are now rejoicing!!! Amstel Gold Race - Astana (Kazakhstan), Flèche Wallonne - Katusha (Russia) and Liège - Bastogne - Liège - Astana (Kazakhstan)
count me out. Soviet Union is gone 20 years already ..do you know that? |
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| 001RusKZ |
Posted on 22-04-2012 20:33
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Guido Mukk wrote:
001RusKZ wrote:
In all the countries of the former Soviet Union are now rejoicing!!! Amstel Gold Race - Astana (Kazakhstan), Flèche Wallonne - Katusha (Russia) and Liège - Bastogne - Liège - Astana (Kazakhstan)
count me out. Soviet Union is gone 20 years already ..do you know that?
Do you know word "former, ex, old" etc.?
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 22-04-2012 21:27
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issoisso wrote:
What?
Igli.....what?
I left when Nibali had 45 seconds.....what?
I......what?
EDIT: And the guy's been one of the most obvious dopers in the peloton for years now. He's been named in like 3 different investigations. I thought Vino winning was bad, but this is a new low
The 45 seconds was always to Gilbert. Iglinski was never more than 20 back.
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 22-04-2012 21:46
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001RusKZ wrote:
Astana are kings of Ardennes this year!!! =) Accept) All is fair!
What do you know about it ? Hasn't history taught you a lesson when Vino, Kash, Fofonov, etc. got their wins stripped away ? |
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| sam1196 |
Posted on 22-04-2012 21:54
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Aquarius wrote:
001RusKZ wrote:
Astana are kings of Ardennes this year!!! =) Accept) All is fair!
What do you know about it ? Hasn't history taught you a lesson when Vino, Kash, Fofonov, etc. got their wins stripped away ?
It might be suspicious but it is unfair to judge Iglinskiy because of what other Kazachs have done in the last years.
VINO VINO VINO VINO VINO VINO VINO VINO VINO
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 22-04-2012 21:56
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Same team, named in may affairs, surprising performance. Plus I'm not judging (until proven otherwise I'm not a court). |
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| dienblad |
Posted on 22-04-2012 22:26
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Watched the race a few hours later, and I'm very surprised.
1. Iglinskiy looked to be the strongest, and deserves the victory.
2. The other riders did not want to or could not chase him. Were they all dead, or just looking at each other?
3. A lot of teams were working at the wrong time, and when the final started, they were nowhere to be seen (Radio Shack) or they their leaders were isolated (Lotto, BMC, Rabobank).
4. Nibali showed some guts, unfortunately for him a little bit too early.
To me, it's understandable that people start questioning the victories of Gasparotto and Iglinsky. 2 good riders, who have never won that much, now suddenly win 2 World Tour races against the big names, both riding for a team with a questionable history....
But like others have said: a negative doping test will mean that Astana had a perfect training plan and strategy for their riders.
And 001RusKZ: The Fleche was won by a Spanish guy (who happens to ride for a Russian team), just as an Italian guy won the AGR......
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 22-04-2012 22:47
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001RusKZ wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
001RusKZ wrote:
In all the countries of the former Soviet Union are now rejoicing!!! Amstel Gold Race - Astana (Kazakhstan), Flèche Wallonne - Katusha (Russia) and Liège - Bastogne - Liège - Astana (Kazakhstan)
count me out. Soviet Union is gone 20 years already ..do you know that?
Do you know word "former, ex, old" etc.?
This is as stupid as say ..All ex. Roman empire will celebrate Gasparotto win. |
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| lagetcher |
Posted on 22-04-2012 22:50
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Here are some Iglinskiy facts:
Had won 1 race in the last 3 years.
Last year his best result was an 11th place in a TdF stage (though maybe there was a good reason for lack of performance last year - and drink driving doesn't count)
Best result in the Ardennes before this year was 17th in Fleche Wallonne.
So he's a decent hilly classics rider (I wouldn't say under-rated though), but suddenly the strongest man in LBL?
Now, we could ignore these facts if we wanted to, but looking at Astana's incredibly successful Ardennes performance suggests these facts should probably not be ignored.
Edited by lagetcher on 22-04-2012 22:50
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