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| Alakagom |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:20
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marble wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
When have we ever seen a peloton of 4 riders from one team, with two other climbing specialists?
Never in the "clean" era. Further evidence. When would Rogers , Porte or Froome even be in this group before last year? Never.
I don't agree with that as an arguement, however I believe what Rogers is doing now is a bit extreme. Pinot though. He wasn't in that group before last year (and not even then) either for good reasons, so it's kind of stupid to use it as "evidence" for anything.
But yeah, I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but what Rogers is doing right now is insane nonetheless.
Seriously though, the fact that Pinot is still there, but so many others not.. It really seems like it isn't only Sky that's strong, but the others are weak. Some from crashes, and some from other things. Sucks for the excitement.
I would kinda agree with this at the moment in the stage. The fact Tejay dropped Evans says it all imo. Riders are even re-joining the group.
Edited by Alakagom on 12-07-2012 15:21
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:21
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Alakagom wrote:
marble wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
When have we ever seen a peloton of 4 riders from one team, with two other climbing specialists?
Never in the "clean" era. Further evidence. When would Rogers , Porte or Froome even be in this group before last year? Never.
I don't agree with that as an arguement, however I believe what Rogers is doing now is a bit extreme. Pinot though. He wasn't in that group before last year (and not even then) either for good reasons, so it's kind of stupid to use it as "evidence" for anything.
But yeah, I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but what Rogers is doing right now is insane nonetheless.
Seriously though, the fact that Pinot is still there, but so many others not.. It really seems like it isn't only Sky that's strong, but the others are weak. Some from crashes, and some from other things. Sucks for the excitement.
I would kinda agree with this. The fact Tejay dropped Evans says it all imo.
+1
doesnt this also make the breakthrough arguement validagain?
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| samdiatmh |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:28
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Pinot was up there in last year's Dauphine, in the stages that Joaquim won
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:29
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marble wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
When have we ever seen a peloton of 4 riders from one team, with two other climbing specialists?
Never in the "clean" era. Further evidence. When would Rogers , Porte or Froome even be in this group before last year? Never.
I don't agree with that as an arguement, however I believe what Rogers is doing now is a bit extreme. Pinot though. He wasn't in that group before last year (and not even then) either for good reasons, so it's kind of stupid to use it as "evidence" for anything.
But yeah, I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but what Rogers is doing right now is insane nonetheless.
Seriously though, the fact that Pinot is still there, but so many others not.. It really seems like it isn't only Sky that's strong, but the others are weak. Some from crashes, and some from other things. Sucks for the excitement.
Pinot is what? 22? Of course he didn't have any results! And FYI, he did. He won the mountains in Romandie at 20. Your arguement is worse.
Edited by baseballlover312 on 12-07-2012 15:30
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| litllemagnum |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:31
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Sky fanboys using Pinot as an excuse that sky isn't doping...
There are 4 Sky guys here who could win the tour if they didn't have to ride for eachother. Seriously come back to the real world.
Pozzato sucks!
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| marble |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:31
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baseballlover312 wrote:
marble wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
When have we ever seen a peloton of 4 riders from one team, with two other climbing specialists?
Never in the "clean" era. Further evidence. When would Rogers , Porte or Froome even be in this group before last year? Never.
I don't agree with that as an arguement, however I believe what Rogers is doing now is a bit extreme. Pinot though. He wasn't in that group before last year (and not even then) either for good reasons, so it's kind of stupid to use it as "evidence" for anything.
But yeah, I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but what Rogers is doing right now is insane nonetheless.
Seriously though, the fact that Pinot is still there, but so many others not.. It really seems like it isn't only Sky that's strong, but the others are weak. Some from crashes, and some from other things. Sucks for the excitement.
Pinot is what? 22? Of course he didn't have any results! Your arguement is worse.
He has improved, it's not like you can't improve once you're 32. A good example is Tondo. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:32
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litllemagnum wrote:
Sky fanboys using Pinot as an excuse that sky isn't doping...
There are 4 Sky guys here who could win the tour if they didn't have to ride for eachother. Seriously come back to the real world.
who?
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:32
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I mean, it wasn't even Evans vs. Sky, it was Evans vs. Rogers, come on, that just doesn't happen.
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:33
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TheManxMissile wrote:
litllemagnum wrote:
Sky fanboys using Pinot as an excuse that sky isn't doping...
There are 4 Sky guys here who could win the tour if they didn't have to ride for eachother. Seriously come back to the real world.
who?
Wiggins, Froome, Rogers, EBH 
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| marble |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:34
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litllemagnum wrote:
Sky fanboys using Pinot as an excuse that sky isn't doping...
There are 4 Sky guys here who could win the tour if they didn't have to ride for eachother. Seriously come back to the real world.
The fact that Rogers isn't dropping Pinot really shows how good Rogers is right? People are even getting back up in the group at the moment. As soon as someone decides to increase the pace a little, I'm sure Rogers will be gone. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:35
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marble wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
marble wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
When have we ever seen a peloton of 4 riders from one team, with two other climbing specialists?
Never in the "clean" era. Further evidence. When would Rogers , Porte or Froome even be in this group before last year? Never.
I don't agree with that as an arguement, however I believe what Rogers is doing now is a bit extreme. Pinot though. He wasn't in that group before last year (and not even then) either for good reasons, so it's kind of stupid to use it as "evidence" for anything.
But yeah, I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but what Rogers is doing right now is insane nonetheless.
Seriously though, the fact that Pinot is still there, but so many others not.. It really seems like it isn't only Sky that's strong, but the others are weak. Some from crashes, and some from other things. Sucks for the excitement.
Pinot is what? 22? Of course he didn't have any results! Your arguement is worse.
He has improved, it's not like you can't improve once you're 32. A good example is Tondo.
But you can't not getresults at all for years and then all of a sudden you can drop the best climbers in the world and stay on the front for 30 km up a HC climb. 
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| CountArach |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:35
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marble wrote:
litllemagnum wrote:
Sky fanboys using Pinot as an excuse that sky isn't doping...
There are 4 Sky guys here who could win the tour if they didn't have to ride for eachother. Seriously come back to the real world.
The fact that Rogers isn't dropping Pinot really shows how good Rogers is right? People are even getting back up in the group at the moment. As soon as someone decides to increase the pace a little, I'm sure Rogers will be gone.
That's ridiculous. Pinot is a far, far, far better climber than Rogers. Rogers was the one setting the pace that made this incredibly elite selection and dropped riders with a better track record of strong results in the mountains.
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| litllemagnum |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:36
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TheManxMissile wrote:
litllemagnum wrote:
Sky fanboys using Pinot as an excuse that sky isn't doping...
There are 4 Sky guys here who could win the tour if they didn't have to ride for eachother. Seriously come back to the real world.
who?
Wiggins,Porte, Froome and Rogers.
Pozzato sucks!
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:37
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marble wrote:
litllemagnum wrote:
Sky fanboys using Pinot as an excuse that sky isn't doping...
There are 4 Sky guys here who could win the tour if they didn't have to ride for eachother. Seriously come back to the real world.
The fact that Rogers isn't dropping Pinot really shows how good Rogers is right? People are even getting back up in the group at the moment. As soon as someone decides to increase the pace a little, I'm sure Rogers will be gone.
He's the one that dropped them in the first place.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:37
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litllemagnum wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
litllemagnum wrote:
Sky fanboys using Pinot as an excuse that sky isn't doping...
There are 4 Sky guys here who could win the tour if they didn't have to ride for eachother. Seriously come back to the real world.
who?
Wiggins,Porte, Froome and Rogers.
Even Knees dropped half the peli.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:39
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baseballlover312 wrote:
litllemagnum wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
litllemagnum wrote:
Sky fanboys using Pinot as an excuse that sky isn't doping...
There are 4 Sky guys here who could win the tour if they didn't have to ride for eachother. Seriously come back to the real world.
who?
Wiggins,Porte, Froome and Rogers.
Even Knees dropped half the peli.
i meant who was using pinot as an arguement
i asked if it was possible to use
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| litllemagnum |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:39
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marble wrote:
litllemagnum wrote:
Sky fanboys using Pinot as an excuse that sky isn't doping...
There are 4 Sky guys here who could win the tour if they didn't have to ride for eachother. Seriously come back to the real world.
The fact that Rogers isn't dropping Pinot really shows how good Rogers is right? People are even getting back up in the group at the moment. As soon as someone decides to increase the pace a little, I'm sure Rogers will be gone.
Hahahahahaha
Please stop you are being an idiot. Pinot is way more talented uphill than ROgers
Pozzato sucks!
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:41
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TheManxMissile wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
litllemagnum wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
litllemagnum wrote:
Sky fanboys using Pinot as an excuse that sky isn't doping...
There are 4 Sky guys here who could win the tour if they didn't have to ride for eachother. Seriously come back to the real world.
who?
Wiggins,Porte, Froome and Rogers.
Even Knees dropped half the peli.
i meant who was using pinot as an arguement
i asked if it was possible to use
Look at the thread. You fanboys do this all the time.
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| marble |
Posted on 12-07-2012 15:42
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CountArach wrote:
marble wrote:
litllemagnum wrote:
Sky fanboys using Pinot as an excuse that sky isn't doping...
There are 4 Sky guys here who could win the tour if they didn't have to ride for eachother. Seriously come back to the real world.
The fact that Rogers isn't dropping Pinot really shows how good Rogers is right? People are even getting back up in the group at the moment. As soon as someone decides to increase the pace a little, I'm sure Rogers will be gone.
That's ridiculous. Pinot is a far, far, far better climber than Rogers. Rogers was the one setting the pace that made this incredibly elite selection and dropped riders with a better track record of strong results in the mountains.
Wait so what are these strong results that make him so much better than Rogers? His win in Settimana Lombarda last year? And I'm not saying Rogers is definitely better, I'm saying Pinot can actually hang onto Rogers... And Pinot's results aren't exactly extreme either. So what Rogers is doing at the moment isn't all that amazing. Most of the strong guys that Rogers dropped have a problem of a sort or seem to be doing worse cause of old age. |
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baseballlover312 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
litllemagnum wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
litllemagnum wrote:
Sky fanboys using Pinot as an excuse that sky isn't doping...
There are 4 Sky guys here who could win the tour if they didn't have to ride for eachother. Seriously come back to the real world.
who?
Wiggins,Porte, Froome and Rogers.
Even Knees dropped half the peli.
i meant who was using pinot as an arguement
i asked if it was possible to use
Look at the thread. You fanboys do this all the time.
clearly didnt read my earlier post
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