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TdF'13 Stage 19 - Bourg-d'Oisans to Le Grand-Bornand (July 19)
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-07-2013 16:21
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kumazan wrote:
Sánchez a better TTist.
I don't agree, but Sánchez has a much better sprint
EDIT: And of course the descents
Edited by issoisso on 19-07-2013 16:24
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| kumazan |
Posted on 19-07-2013 16:24
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issoisso wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Sánchez a better TTist.
I don't agree, but Sánchez has a much better sprint
I think Sánchez is a bit better, but I guess it's hard to know atm. Sánchez is very fast yep, although maybe 'much' is a bit of an overstatement? Costa ain't slow.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-07-2013 16:26
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Sánchez wins bunch sprints. Even in flat stages
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 19-07-2013 16:27
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Costa can win one week (world tour) stage races. Sanchez has only won one after Contador had a fringale.
Edit: Sanchez is better all-around and can win cobbled races if he would care
Edited by Spilak23 on 19-07-2013 16:30
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| kumazan |
Posted on 19-07-2013 16:33
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issoisso wrote:
Sánchez wins bunch sprints. Even in flat stages
Yeah, well in weak fields. Still think he's better, but not that much. Anyway, the point is that they have a similar style, not compare all their skills one by one. 
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 19-07-2013 16:37
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Some tweets that sum up today for me - no denying Costa's fine performance after being off the front for so long that's for sure:
Edited by ianrussell on 19-07-2013 16:38
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 19-07-2013 16:39
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Not that long a climb but excellent performance at the end of a tough stage and from the break too. No wonder he had a minute by the summit.
Edited by ianrussell on 19-07-2013 16:40
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 19-07-2013 16:44
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Cavendish and Kittel amongst them afaik but Greipel home safely. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 19-07-2013 16:48
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Relevant bit of the rule book for the elimination time here:
Coefficient 4 (very difficult stages)
The permitted finishing time is calculated
according to the winner’s finishing time plus:
• 7% if the average speed is less than or equal
to 30 km/h
• 8% between 30 km/h & 31 km/h;
• 9% between 31 km/h & 32 km/h;
• 10% between 32 km/h & 33 km/h;
• 11% between 33 km/h & 34 km/h;
• 12% between 34 km/h & 35 km/h;
• 13% between 35 km/h & 36 km/h;
• 14% between 36 km/h & 37 km/h;
• 15% between 37 km/h & 38 km/h;
• 16% between 38 km/h & 39 km/h;
• 17% between 39 km/h & 40 km/h;
• 18% over 40 km/h
Edit - I make it 12% for today and therefore around 43 minutes after the stage winner (I think*).
Edit 2 - nm everyone in some 7 odd minutes inside that elimination time.
Edited by ianrussell on 19-07-2013 16:53
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| juszta |
Posted on 19-07-2013 16:53
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ianrussell wrote:
Edit - I make it 12% for today and therefore around 43 minutes after the stage winner (I think*).
That's right, I calculated the same.
According to Procyclingstats Cav and Kittel rolled in 35:24 after Costa, so easily within time limits.
Edited by juszta on 19-07-2013 16:54
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 19-07-2013 16:56
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juszta wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
Edit - I make it 12% for today and therefore around 43 minutes after the stage winner (I think*).
That's right, I calculated the same.
According to Procyclingstats Cav and Kittel rolled in 35:24 after Costa, so easily within time limits.
Yup, though the grupetto may argue with our definition of easy  |
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 19-07-2013 19:00
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Well you know it's a crap stage when the rain is the most exciting part |
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| dienblad |
Posted on 19-07-2013 21:06
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ianrussell wrote:
Not that long a climb but excellent performance at the end of a tough stage and from the break too. No wonder he had a minute by the summit.
To annoy all the Costa & Movistar fans: after being in the attack this long today, 3 days after being in another one, and still have this speed up the final climb? He's even more doped than Froome! At least Froome showed being a kind of human the last 2 days....
And if not for the given time gaps in all the hilly-mountain-TT stages, than Kittel would still be in yellow.....
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 19-07-2013 21:15
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dienblad wrote:
To annoy all the Costa & Movistar fans: after being in the attack this long today, 3 days after being in another one, and still have this speed up the final climb? He's even more doped than Froome! At least Froome showed being a kind of human the last 2 days....
Being desperate Pelkin fan..you will not just annoy Movistar fans.. |
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| dienblad |
Posted on 19-07-2013 21:20
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Guido Mukk wrote:
dienblad wrote:
To annoy all the Costa & Movistar fans: after being in the attack this long today, 3 days after being in another one, and still have this speed up the final climb? He's even more doped than Froome! At least Froome showed being a kind of human the last 2 days....
Being desperate Pelkin fan..you will not just annoy Movistar fans..
Okay, what fans then? To many people annoy Sky-fans or Schleck fans.... Maybe RodrÃguez-fans?
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 19-07-2013 21:29
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dienblad wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
Not that long a climb but excellent performance at the end of a tough stage and from the break too. No wonder he had a minute by the summit.
To annoy all the Costa & Movistar fans: after being in the attack this long today, 3 days after being in another one, and still have this speed up the final climb? He's even more doped than Froome! At least Froome showed being a kind of human the last 2 days....
And if not for the given time gaps in all the hilly-mountain-TT stages, than Kittel would still be in yellow.....
If I had any illusion about Movistar, I'd be worried by Costa's speed up the last climb, indeed.
Now, saying X is cleaner than Y, I'm not too sure what it means... I don't think any of Costa and Froome is only taking a few corticoids every now and then. Must be much heavier than that, so it makes little difference, IMO. |
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| jph27 |
Posted on 19-07-2013 21:31
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I would quote my post about Belkin from yesterday in response, but I don't believe in wasting my time. |
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| Daggen |
Posted on 19-07-2013 21:45
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Anyone who saw a kid in glasses on the Col de l'Epin today? |
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| dienblad |
Posted on 19-07-2013 21:54
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Daggen wrote:
Anyone who saw a kid in glasses on the Col de l'Epin today?
Sorry Daggen, didn't see you.....
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| Daggen |
Posted on 19-07-2013 21:57
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dienblad wrote:
Daggen wrote:
Anyone who saw a kid in glasses on the Col de l'Epin today?
Sorry Daggen, didn't see you.....
Pity. But I've got some great pictures of the peleton and of the breakaway |
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