kumazan wrote:
If this is one of the longest TTs of the season, then it's clear where the lack of balance actually is.
Yep, I agree.
I am not against TT's at all. But in this specific race, such long TT didn't suit at all. In some others, where there's no TT's and plenty of climbing, it would be nice to have such TT. But oh well.
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Why balance? We have tons of races with climbing and without a TT, so why not have a race with long TT and almost no climbs? It is a nice chance for once more and also chance for different riders to shine. Imo we have too few races without long TTs. Maybe this could be called balance, to have some other races than just 2 flat stages + 2 climbing stages + 1 max. 10-15kms long TT, that can be boring again and again.
Or you have problem with Henao not having chance in the end?
Not really... If Wiggins was here and won, I'd still be on about it
Much shorter TT here would at least give chance to the climbers against those TT'ers. As I say, this is one of the longest TT's in the season and it just doesn't suit this race. Something around 20km would do just fine and be more fair.
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Why balance? We have tons of races with climbing and without a TT, so why not have a race with long TT and almost no climbs? It is a nice chance for once more and also chance for different riders to shine. Imo we have too few races without long TTs. Maybe this could be called balance, to have some other races than just 2 flat stages + 2 climbing stages + 1 max. 10-15kms long TT, that can be boring again and again.
Or you have problem with Henao not having chance in the end?
Not really... If Wiggins was here and won, I'd still be on about it
Much shorter TT here would at least give chance to the climbers against those TT'ers. As I say, this is one of the longest TT's in the season and it just doesn't suit this race. Something around 20km would do just fine and be more fair.
It would be unfair for the TTists this way.
Heh, it would I'd say though It'd be much closer but Martin would still win the GC etc. but it'd give some climbers that did well yesterday more of a chance to defend their GC position.
The thing is, we agree the route was unbalanced. But, does it really matter that much? How many races in the whole calendar are really balanced between climbing and TT?
1. Jonathan Hivert (Sojasun) 4:06:46
2. Alejandro Valverde (MoviStar Team)
3. Bauke Mollema (Blanco)
4. Simone Ponzi (Astana)
5. Davide Rebellin (CCC)
6. Jurgen Van den Broeck (Lotto-Belisol)
7. Sander Armee (Toposport Vlaanderen-Mercator)
8. Robert Gesink (Blanco)
9. Jakob Fuglsang (Astana)
10. Mikel Nieve (Euskaltel-Euskadi)
11. Bart de Clercq (Lotto-Belisol)
12. Dani Navarro (Cofidis)
13. David Belda (Burgos BH)
14. Nairo Quintana (Movistar Team)
15. Simon Spilak (Katusha)
GC:
1. Alejandro Valverde (Movistar Team) 4:13:36
2. Jurgen Van den Broeck (Lotto-Belisol) a 4
3. Bauke Mollema (Blanco) a 11
4. Simon Spilak (Katusha) a 12
5. Bart De Clercq (Lotto-Belisol) a 17
6. Jakob Fuglsang (Astana) a 19
7. Nairo Quintana (Movistar Team) a 24
8. Jonathan Hivert (Sojasun) a 25
9. Davide Rebellin (CCC) a 30
10. Sander Armee (Topsport Vlaanderen-Mercator) a 31
1. Jonathan Hivert (Sojasun) 4:48:37
2. Tyler Farrar (Garmin) m.t.
3. Francesco Lasca (Caja Rural) m.t.
4. Grega Bole (Vacansoleil) m.t.
5. Bauke Mollema (Blanco) m.t.
6. Jakob Fuglsang (Astana) m.t.
7. J. Joaquín Rojas (Movistar Team) m.t.
8. Jurgen Van den Broeck (Lotto.Belisol) m.t.
9. Sander Armee (Topsport Vlaanderen-Mercator) m.t.
10. Yves Lampaert (Topsport Vlaanderen-Mercator) m.t.
11. Eliot Lietaer (Topsport-Vlaanderen-Merator) m.t.
12. Iker Camaño (NetApp-Endura) m.t.
13. Juan José Lobato (Euskaltel-Euskadi) m.t.
14. Pim Ligthart (Vacansoleil-DCM) m.t.
15. Javier Moreno (Movistar Team) m.t.
GC:
1. Alejandro Valverde (Movistar Team) 9:01:29
2. Jurgen Van den Broeck (Lotto-Belisol) a 7
3. Bauke Mollema (Blanco) a 11
4. Simon Spilak (Katusha) a 12
5. Bart de Clercq (Lotto-Belisol) a 17
6. Jacob Fuglsang (Astana) a 19
7. Luis Ángel Maté (Cofidis) a 22
8. Nairo Quintana (Movistar Team) a 24
9. Jonathan Hivert (Sojasun) a 25
10. Sander Armee (Topsport Vlaanderen-Mercator) a 30
11. Davide Rebellin (CCC) m.t.
12. Javier Moreno (Movistar Team) a 31
Edited by fickman on 19-02-2013 16:25
1. Alejandro Valverde (Movistar Team) 4:45:28
2. Simon Spilak (Katusha) m.t.
3. Davide Rebellin (CCC) m.t.
4. Bauke Mollema (Blanco) m.t.
5. Sander Armee (Topsport Vlaanderen-Mercator) m.t.
6. Jurgen Van den Broeck (Lotto-Belisol) m.t.
7. Bart de Clercq (Lotto-Belisol) m.t.
8. Nairo Quintana (Movistar Team) m.t.
9. Jakob Fuglsang (Astana) m.t.
10. Ion Izagirre (Euskaltel-Euskadi) m.t.
11. Dani Navarro (Cofidis) m.t.
12. Robert Gesink (Blanco) m.t.
13. Javier Moreno (Movistar Team) a 10
14. Igor Antón (Euskaltel-Euskadi) m.t.
15. Mikel Nieve (Euskaltel-Euskadi) m.t.
GC:
1. Alejandro Valverde (Movistar Team) 13:47:27
2. Jurgen Van den Broeck (Lotto-Belisol) a 7
3. Bauke Mollema (Blanco) a 11
4. Simon Spilak (Katusha) a 12
5. Bart de Clercq (Lotto-Belisol) a 17
6. Jakob Fuglsang (Astana) a 19
7. Nairo Quintana (Movistar Team) a 24
8. Sander Armee (Topsport Vlaanderen-Mercator) a 30
9. Davide Rebellin (CCC) m.t.
10. Dani Navarro (Cofidis) a 38
11. Javier Moreno (Movistar Team) a 41
12. Mikel Nieve (Euskaltel-Euskadi) a 53
13. Jonathan Hivert (Sojasun) a 1:18
14. Robert Gesink (Blanco) a 1:31
15. Ion Izagirre (Euskaltel-Euskadi) a 1:45
Edited by fickman on 20-02-2013 16:23
