Vuelta a España - Week 2
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TheManxMissile |
Posted on 01-09-2012 14:02
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You cant compare De Gendt and Gesink properly
Gesink crashes so any results after 5 days dont exist
De Gendt is an okay climber, the Giro cant count. It was a break, which no-one in the main leaders group chased properly. He can TT, but that ITT results is just one result, not a true showing of peoples tt ability, obviously.
On the 2011 TT, Evans beat him, Contador had ridden the Giro and was so over done by then, Sanchez is not a great tt'er. And where was De Gendt on the climbs? no where...
De Gendt has one GT GC 3rd, and 1 GT stage win
Gesink has a 7th, 6th and 5th in GT GC's and lots more other race results De Gendt hasn't come close to!
Youre right its not a discussion. Gesink is much better thank De Gendt and De Gendt is luckier.
I'm happy to do a full result comparison of the 2 for you if your interested you wont like it
Edited by TheManxMissile on 01-09-2012 14:04
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Posted on 01-09-2012 14:05
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Quick stage so far, and the breakaway isn't really allowed a good gap. Starting the 2nd category climb, the gap was about 2 minutes. The riders in the breakaway are: Javier Moreno, Ben Gastauer, Blel Kadri, Adrian Palomares, Alessandro Ballan, David Moncoutie, Rudy Molard, Amets Txurruka, Alberto Losada, Maciej Paterski, Dario Cataldo, Serge Pauwels, Simon Clarke, Juan Manuel Garate, Jan Bakelants and Laurent Didier.
Moncoutie was first over the first categorized climb of the day. |
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Posted on 01-09-2012 14:13
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aymen wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
aymen wrote:
MartijnVDD wrote:
He was fourth (officially third because of the removal of Contador's results) 1'22" behind Evans.
wait
1-Martin
2-Cancellara
3-De gendt
I don't see evans or Cancellara wasn't good there ??
Not the real result. As long as you're speaking of the Tour TT last year at least.
https://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/...ceid=20840
Thks i see now , weird that evans is far from his level in the TT this year, i remember that in 2008 he done a weak TT also
You can't compare that TT to how he did this year. Both because he knew that he was riding towards a Tour victory last year, and because he was, unless I've missed something, sick in the Tour this year.
We should also not forget that he is 35 years old. He will, just like everyone else, start decreasing at some point. It's very possible that this year was that point.
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Posted on 01-09-2012 14:24
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Hearing that VDB, Kaisen and Debuscherre are all out of the Vuelta. Can anyone confirm?
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Aquarius |
Posted on 01-09-2012 14:25
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I've read the same (on CN's twitter).
Edited by Aquarius on 01-09-2012 14:26
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TheManxMissile |
Posted on 01-09-2012 14:26
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CountArach wrote:
Hearing that VDB, Kaisen and Debuscherre are all out of the Vuelta. Can anyone confirm?
they have, no reason as yet
also Rojas after the stage 13 crash
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Wilier |
Posted on 01-09-2012 14:27
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CountArach wrote:
Hearing that VDB, Kaisen and Debuscherre are all out of the Vuelta. Can anyone confirm?
Confirmed and Valls too. |
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Posted on 01-09-2012 14:27
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Wilier wrote:
CountArach wrote:
Hearing that VDB, Kaisen and Debuscherre are all out of the Vuelta. Can anyone confirm?
Confirmed and Valls too.
Also reading Zandio.
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issoisso |
Posted on 01-09-2012 14:30
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Zandio crashed out yesterday
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CountArach |
Posted on 01-09-2012 14:30
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issoisso wrote:
Zandio crashed out yesterday
That's what I get for missing a stage.
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Posted on 01-09-2012 14:34
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Moncoutié has no chance. Saxo are keeping an extremely tight leash on the stage
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Posted on 01-09-2012 14:35
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Saxo can pay there efforts and Contador could blew up, i will bet 5 PCM for Rodriguez |
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Posted on 01-09-2012 14:36
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The 3 lotto riders who abandoned were all sick.
Edited by Wilier on 01-09-2012 14:36
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Aquarius |
Posted on 01-09-2012 14:41
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Wilier wrote:
The 3 lotto riders who abandoned were all sick.
Let's hope they're not having a PDM-like disease. |
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Guido Mukk |
Posted on 01-09-2012 14:45
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well ..first real-pure climbers stage |
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issoisso |
Posted on 01-09-2012 14:47
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Aquarius wrote:
Wilier wrote:
The 3 lotto riders who abandoned were all sick.
Let's hope they're not having a PDM-like disease.
It sucks when you get the infused-with-improperly-conserved-EPO virus.
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Guido Mukk |
Posted on 01-09-2012 14:47
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aymen wrote:
Saxo can pay there efforts and Contador could blew up, i will bet 5 PCM for Rodriguez
or this is only way do drop Purito..with your 5 pcm's |
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Posted on 01-09-2012 14:49
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TheManxMissile wrote:
You cant compare De Gendt and Gesink properly
Gesink crashes so any results after 5 days dont exist
De Gendt is an okay climber, the Giro cant count. It was a break, which no-one in the main leaders group chased properly. He can TT, but that ITT results is just one result, not a true showing of peoples tt ability, obviously.
On the 2011 TT, Evans beat him, Contador had ridden the Giro and was so over done by then, Sanchez is not a great tt'er. And where was De Gendt on the climbs? no where...
De Gendt has one GT GC 3rd, and 1 GT stage win
Gesink has a 7th, 6th and 5th in GT GC's and lots more other race results De Gendt hasn't come close to!
Youre right its not a discussion. Gesink is much better thank De Gendt and De Gendt is luckier.
I'm happy to do a full result comparison of the 2 for you if your interested you wont like it
I hope this entire post is ironic.
De Gendt did two grand tours in his cycling career. Two. He ended on the podium on the only one of the two he started with modest GC ambitions. Conclusion: no conclusions possible yet on De Gendt. Comparing him with GT contenders is guesswork and personal interpretation.
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Posted on 01-09-2012 14:50
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Moncoutie starting to fight for KOM? Not stage I presume?
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Aquarius |
Posted on 01-09-2012 14:52
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Moncoutie starting to fight for KOM? Not stage I presume?
Going as far as possible, and picking as many points as possible on the way.
Then whether G.C. riders team let him build a gap sufficient to make it to the end is not his decision. It looks like he won't be fighting for the stage today, actually. |
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